Kristen Stewart Stars In New Chanel Campaign

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  • Gina
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  • Anna

    Always laugh at this.
    (And the way she’s making that chair sound only reinforces my belief she should try voicing a character in a animated movie because she might be good.)

    https://twitter.com/queennn94/status/856500581892050944

  • Anna

    Re-post from the previous board ( https://kristenstewartdaily.com/kristen-stewart-late-show-stephen-colbert-march-9/ ) only because — HBG. What can I do, I like that dude. LOL

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-IwvrhXcAEQJHv.jpg

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  • Eme

    Beautiful as always.

  • Eme

    Want Kristen & him to do a film together.

  • Eme

    Not that I am complaining at all, but isn’t he suppose to be directing a film soon – like now?

  • Eme

    Is Vincent C. in this pic? And, heck yes to the HBG!

  • Anna

    No. That Cuban spy movie doesn’t have a date yet (no cast, nothing).
    And Idol’s Eye is still up in the air (chances that one will happen are quite slim).
    We’ll know more after Cannes.

  • Eme

    Saved the best one for the last!!!

  • Anna

    No. Someone looks like her to you?

  • Anna

    But showed her face in the cover frame for the video because they want re-tweets.

  • Eme

    Ok then. Promote away Mr. O! Because you know I love to see your pictures that Ms. Anna posts just for Me! Lol!

  • Anna

    And you are even more happier to see him now when *it* is on vacation ;P

  • Eme

    No, that’s why I asked.

  • Anna

    Oh, OK. St. Vincent is somewhere out there living her life, doing her thing.

  • Eme

    Yes, yes, yes!!!! Yay!! And now that I said that, *it* will reappear. Just watch !!

  • Anna

    Well, no vacation can last forever, *It* has to go back to ~work sooner rather than later. LOL

  • Eme

    No, lol. I meant the actor, Vincent Cassel, Kristen’s co-star.

  • Eme

    Pity. Oh well. Acceptance.

  • Anna

    OMG!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!! I’m laughing so much right now. And I’m a bit embarrassed, too.

    No V. Cassel either. I’ve noticed her co-stars are coming and going because all of them had days off to do other stuff (festivals, different projects, ect.).

  • Eme

    So what else is new. Kristen is a hot commodity for them. They know a good thing for them. Like Kristen says it’s a moneymaking business (She used stronger language appropriately).

  • Anna

    We survived *the* hat, that sweater is nothing compared to that.
    (Watch that cap making a reappearance in 3, 2, 1 …………. LOL)

  • Eme

    No worries!!LOL!! I had to go back and read my post to make sure I didn’t unconsciously post St. V.! Glad she’s living her life somewhere, lol!!!

  • Anna

    Yeah. And I’m kinda OK-ish when others do that (what can we do, it is what it is) but with Vogue . . . IDK, they are specially iffy when it comes to Kristen.

  • Anna

    (Well, there’s still some weird-ish instagram activity between their accounts but that’s it. Most likely.)

  • Eme

    Yeah, just a few levels higher than the tabloids. But a very mainstream mag so *ok*.

  • Eme

    Yeah, hope so.

  • Eme

    Shhhhh! I wasn’t going to mention the other *it* even though my thoughts went there, too!!!

  • Anna

    Yeah, we better move on to discussing the third *it* — those socks. LOL

  • Anna

    ::: nods :::

  • Eme

    Lol!! The socks!! My husband tries to wear those things sometimes when I’m not looking and I laugh every time I see them on Kristen. And, I don’t show those pics to the hubs because then I wouldn’t have any defense. Because “if your fav can wear them . . . .”

  • Anna

    Man, that feels like you are between a rock and a hard place. Darn tube socks. LOL

  • Eme

    I would so be down to her voicing a character in an animated movie. Didn’t she do a guest voice on the Simpsons? Or is that my imagination going wild again?

  • Eme

    IKR?

  • Anna

    I don’t think she did, no.

  • Eme

    Oh, ok. But, hey, I think it’s a great idea!

  • Anna

    Agree! On my wish list for a long a time now.

  • Eme

    Because from what I can *see* of her relationship with Stella I really like. They seem very supportive and happy with each other. And make a beautiful looking couple, natch!!

  • Anna
  • Eme

    Cute!!

  • Anna

    MTE.

  • Anna

    And the last Gabrielle bag video is out.

    https://twitter.com/CHANEL/status/856564428258627586

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  • BrendaStar

    Haha. That is so funny!

  • BrendaStar

    Thanks, Anna. I was wondering about Idol’s Eye.

  • Anna

    Final weekend BO numbers:
    $21,137 (from 37 theaters, PTA: $571) so domestic total is now at $1,229,599.

    https://twitter.com/boxofficemojo/status/856615917391822848

  • MCR

    Personally, I’m on Team Cardigan. My husband wears a ratty old cardigan all the time, so I’ll provide the cardigan love on everyone’s behalf. 😍

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  • Eme

    Cute, MCR. Sigh. Does that mean I have to be Team Socks if we’re going by the husband’s wardrobe? Because ..
    I can’t even . . . . .

  • Anna

    Well, yes. If I’m obligated to be Team Hat, MCR Team Sweater you are left with Team Socks ;P

  • Eme

    Man!!!! So not what I was going for at all!!! Oh, ok. Team Ugly Tube Socks it is – Team UTS – ewww – doesn’t even sound right, lol!!!

  • Anna

    Oh please! Those socks can at least be covered with her pants, *the* sweater is usually under a jacket but what am I supposed to do with *the* hat that can’t be hidden in any way? LOL

  • Eme

    Well, there is that. Although she tends to wear the socks with her shorts so . . . But, yeah, *the* hat definitely for the win, lol!!

  • Anna

    Sucks to be me. LOL

  • Eme

    LOL!!!!

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    PS to be released in Argentina on April 27th in 25 theaters.

    https://twitter.com/demasiadocine/status/856859267516837888

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  • CJ

    Are you sure the one in the back is HBG and not Vincent Cassel? https://www.instagram.com/p/BSeasjaDfg8/?taken-by=vincentcassel

  • Anna

    No, it’s HBG. Just zoom in on his face.

  • CJ

    Believe me! I zoomed in many times! lol The beard looks the same (as in VC’s pic), although Vincent looks skinnier than the person in the back. And I also think he looks like HBG… I’m just not sure. lol

  • Anna

    Vincent’s hands are different, face structure/shape too. Plus, that’s HBG – just look at his posture and face expression (LOL). I mean, we know the guy, it’s been years of looking at his pics.

  • MCR

    LOL It’s not mandatory as far as I’m concerned. A case by case basis seems like the prudent choice.

  • MCR

    Personally, I love the socks on Kristen, just because they’re not what a stylish young movie star is *ever* supposed to wear.

  • MCR

    Sorry if there are some big fans of his on the site, but…what the heck is Will Smith doing in this group?

  • MCR

    Very nice – her short was included in a 15-short film programme. “…the shorts category has attracted the most submissions from female directors, who account for six of the selections, including “Come Swim,” written and directed by Kristen Stewart.”

  • Anna

    You know, I don’t mind those socks. Nor the hat. Nor the sweater (on Olivier). All of this is just us joking, having a bit of harmless fun.
    But, while we are talking them, here’s my stand. Out of three *its*, the socks are something I care the least about (I wouldn’t wear them with shorts, unless engaged in some sport activity, but otherwise I’m fine with them). The hat is simply too big for her head/face, if it fit her better I wouldn’t say a word (and it’s connected to that charity). The sweater is actually OK but Assayas wore it too often so it was easy to make fun of it.
    None of those are real problems for me but they are good to make fun of from time to time.

  • Anna

    Representing wide audiences and their taste? Everyone else is a bit too niche (or too serious).

  • MCR

    Fair enough.

  • MCR

    Oh, I realize it’s all in fun.
    Assayas’ sweater is charmingly nerdy and who-cares, so it works for any type of artist IMO. I find it kind of adorable – not least, I suppose, because my favourite guy insists on wearing something similar.
    The socks (especially with shorts) seem to be purposely, even militantly, anti-fashion, which is why I like them.

  • CJ

    Ok, I’ll trust your skills.

  • Anna

    Oh definitely. That sweater is quite practical (especially when you are traveling as much as Olivier).
    Yeah, I think she’s wearing those socks on purpose *because* it’s not something widely accepted as stylish. Have no problem with that (at least they fit her, LOL). But they are what you first notice in pics thus this much focus on them.

  • Eme

    😉

  • Eme

    Awww, you guys!! This got a little too serious about the funny things about our favs. They’re both adorable in their so unfashionable ways and it’s so much fun to have cute convos with you guys about the three *its*. That is all. <3

  • Anna

    Exactly.
    (I just wanted to say that even though we are making fun of those 3 *its* all the time, it doesn’t mean we hate them. LOL)

  • Eme

    Yup. Although, tbh, the jury is still out on the *hat* for me. Sorry. But I don’t hate it lol!!

  • Eme

    It’ll be interesting to see their choices for the awards this year.

  • Eme

    Nice.

  • Eme

    I wonder if she will attend. My fan girl heart wants it to be so.

  • Eme

    Channeling Picasso.

  • Anna

    Be careful. Don’t provoke it to come back. LOL

  • Eme

    Oh, it’ll come back! Trust. Kristen loves *it*!

  • Anna

    Um. If it was big on her back then when she had hair, it will look like a helmet now with this buzzcut. So . . . maybe she won’t wear it just yet?

  • Eme

    OMG!! Now I have that vision in my head! Lol!!!

  • gillian kemp

    Nice news! I hope this leads to her first feature.

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  • nonA

    great news! another festival, hoping for several more.

  • Toooten

    Why not? He’s not a bad actor (Enemy of the State, Ali, The Pursuit of Happiness, Seven Pounds) or producer, he just make some really bad choice, and quite often actually. And he’s a two time Oscar nominee and a four time GG nominee, so as said, why not?

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    Joel McKuin

    McKuin Frankel Whitehead
    Alma mater: Harvard Law School

    Why he matters:
    He negotiated Kristen Stewart’s deal for the 2018 action film Underwater, then negotiated the actress’ overall branding pact with Chanel.

  • Anna
  • MCR

    I always thought of him as a mediocre actor coasting on likability, but I guess multiple Oscars and Golden Globes put him in the running.

  • Anna
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  • Anna

    He’s going to be in that new Ang Lee movie.

  • Toooten

    I don’t know if you have seen any of the movies I listed, I think they prove that he can actually act, but I also think his biggest problem is that he goes for the money instead of the art, so to speak.

  • Anna

    It’s a new interview.

    Intro is presenting her more as a celebrity than introducing Kristen Stewart, the actress (they did mention her roles and performances in CS, BLLHW, PS and her long career), but that was expected having in mind the type of magazine. They said nothing bad but that part is painting a pic of her that is too simplified even though their goal was to make her look complex and rebellious.

    First half of the interview are questions that she already gave answers to in some of her previous interviews. Questions about her new state of mind, how she seems more mature, open and independent – she said she’s still shy, that she still over-analyzes and over-thinks, she’s still tortured by her constant desire to learn, ect. but the anxiety she felt when she was younger lessened significantly; she feels free to do things she wants without asking for permission and needing to please everyone. She also added that she craves for constant change in her life, new challenges so she could feel she’s evolving. Come Swim helped her a lot to find that new attitude. She talked about that in next few answers: what’s the idea behind it (love and heartbreak), how she got into directing, how she felt making it, ect. (all familiar stuff from her Sundance interviews).

    Second half of the interview is a bit different (not entirely new subjects but she gave a bit more detailed answers). She was asked about being bisexual and she said it’s only feelings that count [not the gender], that is was always like that for her since the very beginning; she simply follows her heart, her instincts and if/when she finds passion anything can happen.
    She was asked about her future plans when it comes to directing: she first wants to make her feature film debut based on Come Swim and then direct a short about gun control and use of arms, something that is specific to the US. Timing is important because with Trump being POTUS, she thinks everyone should try to raise their voice about issues they care about – when it comes to her, those are causes that are important to everyone regardless of their gender, race, religion and/or sexuality.
    She was asked whether she was always such an activist because it feels like she’s one now and she answered that sometimes projects she’s working on seem insignificant to her compared to what’s happening in the real world around her but she’s trying to find movies that can mean more. Her parents raised her to always be in the first lines when something matters to her, to show responsibility and civil/social consciousness, to not be afraid of fighting for her ideals and ideas, to follow her dreams and do the work she loves.
    She was asked whether she thinks she would have been a different person if she wasn’t raised in LA that is such a liberal place. Kristen said she’s convinced we are born with a character of our own and that no matter how you were raised and where, your real nature will come out at the end.
    The last question was about any advice she would give to the girls who are afraid of making a career in a world this sexist and she said: “Girls, pull out all the courage you have and fight for what’s up to you! And do not let yourself be put down by anyone! And really, it’s just a matter of knowing what you want and finding the courage to do it: we all did that.”

  • Anna

    It’s always about popularity first for him while art comes second (or third, 4th), IMO.

  • Toooten

    I agree, popularity and money. Don’t know which comes first.

    – at least he was smart enough to avoid Independence Day II

  • Anna

    They go hand in hand: you first become popular and than you use that popularity to earn more money which you can then invest into increasing your popularity to earn even more money.

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  • Toooten

    well that’s undecided. The studio said he wanted too much money, but Roland Emmerich, the director, said he wasn’t keen on taking a part in a big budget SciFi movie, short after ‘After Earth’ failed miserably at the B.O. so maybe somewhere between?

  • Anna

    Probably both. I mean, he most likely didn’t want to do it and then said he could change his mind if the pay check was big enough.

  • BrendaStar

    Thanks, Anna, for the information.

  • BrendaStar

    I remember Kristen used to golf with one of her lawyers. I never learnec his name.

  • Anna

    You are welcome.

  • BrendaStar

    He left behind some memorable films.

  • Anna
  • Guest

    Kristen is the co-chair for a benefit to fight gun violence.

    https://twitter.com/alanaoyam/status/857342788966400000

  • Anna

    Hmmm.
    Kristen is scheduled to appear at this event in June. It’s about gun control.

    https://twitter.com/_Rejane_Santos/status/857345413057323008

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  • Anna

    (Side note: I hope she leaves good impression on Dede because her producing track record is incredible. Just saying.)

  • Guest

    Yes. And Adam McKay is no slouch. I wonder if there will be other big names in attendance.

  • MCR

    Very cool!

  • Anna

    Oh, agree. I would like if she could be in one of his films (one of the good ones). But Dede is the top prize in this situation.

    Me too. But they are selling tickets so IDK how all od that re guest list will go.

  • Anna

    Franco is back and the start date for JT LeRoy is July 10th.

    https://twitter.com/TeamK_1/status/857386279075540995

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  • Guest

    Was he ever removed from the Production Weekly listing? I don’t think he was. Just IMDB.

  • Guest

    Adam was a co-chair last year. Maybe it’s a permanent thing for him and they have a different guest co-chair every year. Brad Pitt did it last year. Dede was honored last year. I wonder how Kristen became involved. It seems gun control is something she is passionate about, since she’s doing a short film. As far as guests, Bill and Hillary Clinton, Will Ferrell, Sara Silverman, Julianna Margulies, and others have gone so it’s pretty high profile.

  • Anna

    Can’t be 100% sure but I think he was removed from PW as well.

  • Anna

    Hmmm. It’s probably something he’s very passionate about, an organization he supports for a longer time.
    Same. Out of so many issues/charity causes, gun control was probably the last one I expected her to be interested in. But I’m glad she’s doing it.
    Thanks for that info. We’ll see who will attend this year. They should try to get Julianne Moore to show up as she’s a big advocate for new gun control laws.

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  • MCR

    Nice that she’ll be able to work with Laura Dern again, at least.

  • Anna

    OT

    Assayas wrote screenplay for this movie.

    https://twitter.com/THR/status/857652458872463360

  • Anna

    Reminder: this video Kristen directed comes out tomorrow.

    https://twitter.com/CHVRCHES/status/854742903373144064

  • Anna

    Well, at least, Franco and Kristen are playing brother and sister (and not a couple or something close to that because with his obsession with her . . . ). At least that.

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  • MCR

    Yes, good thing.

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  • gillian kemp

    I wish he had stayed away from Polanski.

  • gillian kemp

    I finally read the article. I thought Kristen was slowly being given Chanel campaigns, but now I wonder. She has a branding deal, of some kind, with them. I would love to know the details.

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    PS will lose another 15 theaters this weekend which means it will be in only 22 theaters.
    SMH @ IFC.

    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/counts/chart/?yr=2017&wk=17&p=.htm

  • Anna

    @taraswennen
    #tbt to our virtual @twilight movie poster 😜😜😝 @thehollywoodreporter #kristenstewart #taraswennen #whenwebothhadhair;)

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BTahTjQlISV/

  • Eme

    Yes, I feel the same way. Sigh.

  • Eme

    They are, if anything, consistent. This will probably be the last week in theaters. 9 week run (if lucky, maybe a 10 week one) for a Cannes awarded film. Wish I could say I am surprised. But … no.

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    PS today at D’A Film Festival in Barcelona.

    https://twitter.com/LaAventuraAV/status/857918368485183490

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    Here’s the video:

  • Anna

    CW will be available on VOD in France on June 5th.

    https://twitter.com/LeBleuduMiroir/status/857946758344847361

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  • Stephanie

    Thanks Anna for all the hard works. Have a Good Friday.

  • Anna

    Hey you!
    How’s everything?

    You too, Stephanie!

  • Stephanie

    I am so busy with work since I came back. I promoted to a project manager. Thanks for asking.

  • Anna

    OT

    Here’s Nicholas Hoult — knitting. You are welcome! LOL

    @nicholashoult
    Trying to get work done on #furyroad set #knitlife

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BTbYXXMgU50/

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  • Eme

    Congratulations, Stephanie! That a girl!!! Have a great day and restful weekend! <3

  • Eme

    Yes, thank you, Anna, for all you do. Have a great Friday!

  • Anna

    You too, Eme.

  • Eme

    LOL!! The juxtaposition is just . . . . too much!!! What a picture!!

  • Eme

    I thought it was well done, also.

  • Anna

    It’s simple (just as she said) but visuals are quite good. Much better than her first video for Sage’s song.
    She still needs to work on her storytelling (because every video tells a story), though.

  • Anna

    Look how completely concentrated on the task he is. LOL

  • Eme

    Yes, she’s got the visuals but I agree the storytelling needs to be firmed up. But still a very good effort and she’s moving in the right direction.

  • Eme

    It’s “wtf- when did I drop a stitch?!!!” LOL!!

  • Anna

    It’s not going to be easy. Because, you know how her thoughts are all over the place when she talks (in interviews)? That, IMO, makes her storytelling (in her videos/short) confusing and not well structured.
    Peter (CXR director) told her she should first start with adapting a book or a short story because narrative form is already set and only after few tries with that to move on and make stuff based on her own scripts. She didn’t listen to him. I think she should have.

  • gillian kemp

    Thank you Anna!!

  • Anna

    You are welcome, Gillian.

  • Stephanie

    Oh hello Eme, how are you my dear? Thank you.

  • Stephanie

    Lol. That’s cute.

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    @lindseybyrnes
    #CHVRCHES recorded a live version of Down Side Of Me for @7inchesforplannedparenthood and #KristenStewart directed a video for it. Link in my profile 💪🏻❤️ And I was able to be there to document some behind the scenes. This night was magical. ‬#7inchesforPP #iStandWithPP

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BTb2dLZFMnj/

  • Anna

    Hmmm. TBS is still happening, this time with Nicholas Hoult attached (Elizabeth Banks is back but it looks like Kristen won’t be in it as they are looking for different young actress).

    https://twitter.com/TeamK_1/status/858031649791115264

  • Anna

    Quite interesting read (that detail about the gun — WTH?!)

    “It’s about what happens between his family, the shoemaker and the beautiful shoes that he makes. It was a perverted love story that’s really funny, about art and commerce. I sent it to, like, five producers, and Andrew Lazar called me the next day and said, “I want to do it!” The first cast was Joaquin Phoenix, Amy Adams and Mia Wasikowska. That’s a pretty nice cast. We went out, and nobody would finance the movie except Avi Lerner. And Avi Lerner said, “I’ll give you seven and a half million dollars to make this movie, but I will give you 10 if you can put a gun in Joaquin’s hand.” And I said, “There’s no guns in this movie. I can’t do that.” He said, “OK, well, then, you can have seven and a half million dollars.” It might’ve even been eight. Anyway, Joaquin turned the deal down and basically pulled the movie down. So the movie fell apart. That was the first time. Then we replaced Joaquin with Andrew Garfield, and we sold the movie at Cannes with Garfield. Then Garfield was coming off Spider-Man.

    His nervous-breakdown years…

    Yeah. Basically he pulled out … not just from my movie but from everybody’s movies. Then we were gonna do the movie with Jim Sturgess, Kristen Stewart and Juliette Binoche, which I thought would’ve just been fantastic. And we had all the money. We would shoot in South Africa. I had gone and scouted for 10 days, met tons of South African crew. We were getting assurances that this South African fund was really real, and in fact they did finance a movie before us. We were the second. Turned out the guy who was running the film fund was, like, an absolute lying motherfucker. And he had so many problems on the movie that preceded us that they pulled the fund out — even though we were getting letters of assurance from the minister for art saying it was happening. And it fell apart.

    Is there a chance you’d still be able to do it?

    It’s not dead. We’ve got Nicholas Hoult now, who actually is kind of the best version of the guy. And we have Elizabeth Banks, who I think would be really wonderful as the shrink. And we’re out to a couple of people to play the younger woman. My pitch on it is, “Latin America, Asia, Europe, North America … women love shoes.” We have Alexander McQueen’s shoe designer, who designed the shoes for the movie. During the course of the film, the character makes 20 pairs of shoes for this woman. And the drawings are astounding! At one time, Christian Louboutin was gonna make the shoes. Now it’s Georgina Goodman, who was Alexander’s person for a long, long time. We’re gonna make the shoes on a level that’s incredible.”

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    Met Gala Photographer Reveals What Really Happens During Prestigious Event
    http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/fashion/met-gala-ball-photographer-stephen-lovekin-shutterstock-reveals-what-really-happens-fashion-event-a7707441.html

    Last year, Stephen Lovekin took what he decided was his best picture of the night at the Met Gala: the notoriously introverted Kristen Stewart beaming with her arms outstretched on the red-carpeted steps of New York’s Metropolitan Museum of Art.
    “She was standing on the first platform and as she was going up the steps, she turned around and gave this great smile,” Lovekin told The Independent. “It was genuine and real, which was exciting because it’s particularly hard to get her to smile on the red carpet sometimes.”

    https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/styles/story_medium/public/thumbnails/image/2017/04/28/12/kristenstewart.jpg

  • Anna

    New pics.

    Kristen and Stella having a lunch (and a bit of fun + meeting someone’s baby) in NOLA.

  • Anna

    (Also, Stella touching Kristen’s hair . . . not going to lie, that would be me, too. LOL)

  • Anna

    Oh! Some are saying that the couple with Kristen and Stella (and Suzie) is Max Theiroit (Kristen’s co-star from Catch That Kid and a very good friend – you all knew that story how they named their cats after each other + that’s his wedding she went to right after the breakup back in 2013) and his wife with their toddler son.
    I can’t tell.

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  • Eme

    Sorry for the late reply. I bet she was one of those kids that colored outside of the lines, so . . . . . If we know anything about Kristen is that she will forge her own way, relying on her instincts and gut (her words) when she chooses projects, so I’m not surprised she’s going “against the grain”, so to speak, in terms of her directorial experiences. And I think she said she makes things harder on herself sometimes, so there you have it.

  • Eme

    I am doing well. Busy but still trying to get on this board when I can. Hope you are doing well besides being super busy with the career. Take care, lovey.

  • Anna

    Yeah, I know all that.
    But, just like it’s so her to do things in hard way, it’s so me to keep hoping she’ll choose to do things in easier way from time to time. We are both stubborn, I guess. LOL

  • Eme

    And, maybe, MAYBE, someday she’ll surprise you and actually do what you hope – could happen. Hope Train riding, always. And there’s no harm in hoping, Anna. Because we all want the best for her. Always.

  • Anna

    That’s the biggest truths of all right there.

  • Eme

    Nice pics of all of them. And how cool is it that both Max and Kristen still connect and are able to spend time with the significant people in their lives together. Warms my heart to see that.
    And the joy one can see in Kristen’s face!

  • Eme

    I would so love to touch it!! Actually, when I was younger, I wore my hair very, very short (although not buzz cut) and someone actually asked if they could touch the top part of my head! I think they were wondering what it must feel like to have such short hair. Or maybe what shape my head actually was lol!!

  • Anna

    Right? LOL
    I also had short hair but that was when I was very little, 4 or 5, so I don’t remember how that felt. Since then, it’s always been long hair.
    Frankly, I envy Kristen on one thing — how easy must it be to wash her hair now. LOL

  • Anna

    People who name their cats after each other stay together/in touch. That’s the rule of life ;P

  • Eme

    Sooo easy!!! Wash and wear is what I say! Funny how the platinum buzz cut is the “it” style for the summer. Hmmmm . . . . .

  • Eme

    He called his cat Kristen? Max as a pet name I can see, but Kristen? It is rather sweet though. They’re sweet.

  • Anna

    Yeah. And it looks good on all of them.
    But once they start growing their hair out . . . oh boy. LOL

  • Eme

    Yeah, all of them look good! But I like Kristen’s the best, natch!

  • Eme

    And, yeah, that growing out phase is going to be a bit snarly, I think. And that’s from my own experience of growing my hair out!

  • Anna

    But of course he did. Just look at this beauty.

    https://i.imgbox.com/admGYcxi.jpg

  • Anna

    “When I was 13, the first movie I did was Catch That Kid with Kristen Stewart. I used to hang out at her house a lot. She had a Bengal cat, and I decided I wanted to get one. So we drove to the breeder, I got my cat, and Kristen was like, ‘You have to name her Kristen,’ so I did. And somehow she’s picked up the nickname Jane too.”

  • Anna
  • Anna

    It’s going to be especially snarly and awkward in Kristen’s case. LOL
    (And, ugh, the head tattoo.)

  • Eme

    Nooo!!! I can wait like forever for that head tattoo! Sigh.

  • Anna

    I’m here trying to prepare myself for it ………………………………..

  • Eme

    Is there any significance to the second name Jane? So, it’s Kristen Jane. And, a green eyed cat, me thinks? By the way, that’s a great pic of the two of them.

  • Stephanie

    Omg…please don’t do it. Lol.

  • Anna

    No idea. Maybe that’s just a name Kristen likes.

  • Anna

    She will do it. Sooner or later. That’s just how Kristen is.

  • Eme

    Awww. Her dad has him now, right? Is that the same cat she spoke of in an interview a few years back? She said she gave her cat to her dad to keep him company when he was sick and didn’t have the heart to take him because her father got attached to the cat, natch.

  • Stephanie

    Second to that. 🙂

  • Anna

    Yup, that’s the same cat. And he’s still with her dad. Cameron posted a pic of him on his instagram few months ago.

  • Eme

    Awww. That’s really sweet! This board is rather “sweet” today with all the past memories meeting up with the present. Kinda cute.

  • Anna

    That’s because of that cute little guy. He brought out all this sweetness.

  • Eme

    Well, the proof will be when they actually start the filming. There have been so many different casts attached to this film. Wonder how many script re-writes there have been to meet the demands of the financing. Js.

  • Eme

    True, so true.

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  • BrendaStar

    Nice review “In Stewart the director has found the perfect muse, an exquisite and ambiguous beauty to immerse in this morphing dreamscape. Assayas is richly rewarded with his casting of the sometimes maligned performer who, along with Clouds of Sils Maria, has given two of her finest performances under his non-intrusive direction. Both parts are written to Stewart’s strengths, playing to her naturalism and ability to reduce fantastical material to an almost serene simplicity. She’s immensely believable, constantly reductive in her portrayal and effortlessly beguiling. As in many of her other roles, Stewart keeps part of Maureen partitioned and elusive – a puzzle never quite solved by the time the credits roll.”
    he film, too, is a thematic Rubik’s Cube. While relatively straight forward in its narrative, there is a lot to unravel in Personal Shopper and its haunted central character. The deft chills delivered in its final stanza ensure that the film lingers with you after its finale. It could be Assayas’ rumination on the nature of male oppression, emotional blackmail and the male gaze – Maureen certainly experiences these elements from two distinct angles. But aesthetics play an equally large role in this stoic malaise, whether it be Maureen’s role in applying them to Kyra’s glamorous lifestyle or her attraction to these fine garments and the escapism they provide. Indeed, the intricacies of Stewart’s own beauty, which unfurl before the director’s floating, apparitional camera, are equally crucial to this unwaveringly original production.”

  • Guest

    Kristen’s hair actually looks a bit longer to me.

  • Guest

    Very random. I guess they think it sells and wanted promo shots.

  • Eme

    There is no preparing for me. I am in denial mode till the very last second. The.very.last.second.

  • Anna
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  • Eme

    I hope she goes, but I won’t be surprised if she doesn’t because of filming.

  • Anna
  • Anna

    Yeah. I’m not even sure she’ll go to Met Gala.

  • Eme

    I’m not either. But, of the two, I’m hoping more for the Chanel show.

  • Anna

    That one is far less likely even in theory.

  • Eme

    I know. Call me hopelessly optimistic & riding the Hope Train lol!

  • MCR

    So nasty…but his movies are so good. :/

  • Toooten

    Yay finally a opening date for PS in Denmark – 6.July! :))

    Only downside? It’ll be two more months of waiting, but I can live with that as long I get to see it in the cinema. :))

  • Anna

    Great! I hope that date sticks.
    You waited all these months, 2 more will pass fast 🙂

  • Toooten

    It sticks I’m sure, and yes it’ll pass quickly – summer’s coming and all. :))

  • Eme

    Happy for you, Toooten! It really is a film that will stay with you for a long time!

  • Anna
  • Anna

    Weekend BO estimates:

    PS isn’t listed anymore. IFC, enough said.

    https://twitter.com/boxofficemojo/status/858699422028509184

  • Eme

    Yup.

  • Anna

    Not OT because Met Gala is tomorrow so……………………………..

    https://twitter.com/PageSix/status/858702466283696129

  • Anna

    #%/%$#U/U(%$#”#$/()=?&/(=)(/!”#$Z/Z$R#EWQ!”#”$&/()P==)/(/&/(()=”##”!!”#$%

  • nuca

    Do we know if Kristen will attend?

  • Anna

    She’s not on lists I saw so far. But that’s not unusual as she wasn’t listed last year either. So, unless we get a specific clue from someone close to her (her beauty team or CJ, Suzie, ect.), we’ll have to wait and see, till the very last moment tomorrow.

  • Toooten

    Thanks Eme, and I’m sure it will. 🙂

  • Anna
  • MCR

    Why is it people want to attend this thing? It sounds awful on every level. The money apparently doesn’t even go to the Museum of Art, as I had thought, but to Wintour’s clothing museum. Are celebrities really this desperate for recognition?

  • Eme

    Wow. This would be funny if it wasn’t so OTT ridiculous in its extravagance.

  • Anna

    It’s like their own version of bad soap opera.

  • MCR

    LOL I liked Stephen Colbert’s reaction, after he & his wife attended. He said that for the evening’s entertainment, members of the 99% broke in and put them all against the wall at gunpoint.

  • Eme

    Lol!!! I was just thinking about the 1%!! And I love Stephen C.’s reaction!! God, the superficiality of it all!

  • Anna

    Depends.
    For those who are just starting, it’s a good exposure so you can’t blame them.
    Some are “forced” to be there because they have big project(s) coming out and studio(s) want(s) them to be more *visible*.
    Others don’t like it but it *is* a good opportunity to network so they do it because of that.
    And then there are those with fashion contracts who are in a way obligated to be there and represent designers/fashion houses.
    Of course, some simply love it.

  • Eme

    And, not that he cares, but I bet he wasn’t invited again after that comment!!

  • MCR

    Likely not!

  • Eme

    Well, I think I know where Kristen falls in those categories. Because this isn’t her *thing* unless I am mistaken.

  • MCR

    Yet she’s attended several times. Connection to Chanel is involved, I suppose?

  • Eme

    If I ‘m not mistaken, she was either representing a designer or possibly for visibility for her films. But that’s all conjecture on my part.

  • Anna

    (Not funny. Sorry, but with all these real shootings happening I find it tasteless to joke about it. Sorry, don’t want to be a killjoy right now but ….)

  • MCR

    Could be. Maybe her reps recommended it. We know how reliable their advice always is. 😉

  • Anna

    If she attends tomorrow, that will be her 7th time (she started going back in 2010 and only skipped it 2015).

  • Eme

    😉

  • MCR

    Hmm…I’m not positive he used the words “at gunpoint,” and the situation was so obviously made up, I didn’t find it offensive. That wasn’t even the point of the joke.

  • Anna

    Yeah. I think, at the beginning, it was part of her extended Twilight duties (she had to maintain certain public profile) and now it’s because of Chanel.

  • MCR

    That’s quite a few appearances. Maybe she actually enjoys the event. (I’ll try not to think less of her LOL).

  • Anna

    The only time when she “needed” it was 2013 because, well, you know . . . And even then, she went there because Stella McCartney wanted her (and they are/were friends).

  • Anna

    Three years of Twilight era, then 2013 and this now is 4th year of Chanel so I’m not sure it was/isn’t fully her choice.

  • Eme

    MTE!!

  • Anna

    Oh I got the joke and point he was trying to make. I guess I’m just too sensitive when it comes to dark humor based on (threat of) violence because, well, it can easily become real.
    Sorry, don’t mind me. Carry on.

  • MCR

    I appreciate and respect your sensitivity to jokes about violence. More people should probably feel that way.

  • Anna

    🙂

  • Eme

    And Anna W. is truly *the devil that wears Prada*!!! Meryl did a brilliant job capturing her essence. I mean, can you just see the fear that Anna W. generates around her? And the pettiness of it all!!

  • Eme

    Well said. And I do appreciate Anna’s reaction & opinion.

  • Anna

    Right?
    Funny thing, though. I just read two part interview with her that was done month or two ago but they published it few days ago. And let me tell you, she doesn’t sound particularly smart at all (doing her job probably comes instinctively to her).

  • Eme

    Well, her world and circle isn’t part of the *real* world so I’m not surprised she might not be knowledgeable about other things outside of fashion. She’s pretty insulated from us mere mortals and our lives.

  • Anna

    True that.

  • Eme

    But, I’ll be right here looking at all the pictures of Kristen if she attends. Lol!

  • Anna

    (Well, if she goes, there’s one thing we don’t have to worry about – her hairstyle. LOL)

  • Eme

    True! I am liking how it’s growing out so far. It hasn’t reached that awkward stage yet.

  • Eme

    And Adir won’t be needed!! Awww.

  • Anna

    It won’t reach that stage for another year (if she lets it grow).

    (Imagine getting a pic of her with Katy P. and Zoe K. now that they have very similar haircuts? LOL)

  • Eme

    Um, yeah. I like the idea of a pic with Zoe. Sorry, still not a fan of Katy P.

  • Eme

    Lovely picture! And she had her long hair to push back!

  • Anna

    I’m not a fan of hers nor her music either.
    But just for having a bit of fun sake that pic of 3 of them would be nice. LOL

  • Eme

    Yeah, it would be a fun pic, I agree.

  • Anna

    Yeah. LOL
    I loved that whole look (Today Show appearance, SWATH promo).

    https://cristinahh.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/kristen-stewart-thet-day-show-2012-narciso-rodriguez-dress.jpg

  • Eme

    Nice!!!

  • Anna
  • Eme

    I really like the dress and the details. Thanks, Anna.

  • Anna

    😉

  • Anna

    I want these two in a movie together again. Sigh.

    https://twitter.com/Simply__Jodie/status/858797819917991936

  • MCR

    Definitely. Or else one of them directing the other.

  • Anna

    Well, Jodie is much better actress than director (and I think it will be same thing with Kristen) so I prefer seeing them acting in a movie together. A reunion with Fincher wouldn’t be bad either.

  • Anna

    Like I said, for those who aren’t into small foreign indie films, Kristen’s public perception is still far from positive (for example, recently I saw a tweet with 11K RTs and 19K likes that was basically “yeah, but everyone still hates her”).
    Regarding this particular piece, and how Kristen was referenced in it . . . you all will say that she was always a feminist, that she now supports PP, is for gun control or that she’s one of very few A-listers who is openly not straight thus effectively putting her whole career on line, that she supports LGBTQ youth organizations, ect. (adding how she was, as a young woman, ruthlessly bullied by everyone and that none of these oh so righteous female journalist didn’t say a word against that) but none of that matters because — Ruth didn’t do her job (she never does). Every single imperfect thing about Kristen gets perpetuated over and over again till no end in the mass media while few affirmative aspects of what she’s doing/saying/standing up for get lost forever in that whole mess.

    https://twitter.com/THR/status/859041050240983044

  • Anna

    (You have so many other big stars in Kristen’s generation, like Emma S. for example, who are staying tongue-tied about pretty much everything that might be even slightly controversial but you don’t see them being used as negative examples in context of that article. That’s because their general appeal/likeability is too strong and will never be put under question. Anyway, it is what it is. I’m just sick and tired of Kristen being used as a poster child for everything negative but after all these years, it’s partly her own fault so there’s that.)

  • Anna

    (And I don’t even want to start talking about the fact that all names mentioned in every article like that one are females. Young guys are simply left off the hook; for them it’s enough to have a six-pack and a cute smile to be validated as good.)

  • MCR

    I don’t disagree with any of that – except that I think Kristen’s directing ability is still an unknown quantity.

  • Anna

    I respect that even though I partly disagree (I’m not seeing any encouraging signs that she has considerable talent for directing).
    Time will tell, as always.

  • Anna

    Hmmm. These ladies, plus Lily Rose-Depp, are all going to wear Chanel tonight at Met Gala. Seeing they all are now confirmed, shouldn’t Kristen’s name be in the mix if she is attending?

    https://twitter.com/SpencerKSKS/status/859091005857038336

  • Eme

    Nothing else on Twitter? Of the 3 events (Met, Chanel, & Cannes), I would imagine Kristen would pick Cannes to attend if she had to choose because of filming schedule. That’s my take on it for what it’s worth lol.

  • Anna

    No, nothing else. That Chanel list leaked and everyone is posting it right now. She’s not on it so, I guess, that’s the confirmation we needed.

    Agree. Regardless of all those reservations I talked about (why Come Swim was selected and whether it will do her any good in the end), Cannes is the most important event of these three. With Met Gala and Chanel’s cruise show there’s always next year.

  • Eme

    Yes, there’s always next year. But, I won’t lie. I’ll miss the pretty pictures of her.

  • Anna

    I know. Same.
    We can dislike it and think it’s silly (I’m trying to be polite about it) but the fact remains — Met Gala *is* a big freaking deal so every time she gets to be there is good.
    Filming/work comes first, though.

  • Eme

    Yup. It’s all about the work.

  • Eme

    My thoughts on this piece: Like it or not, her negative reference to Kristen is part of Kristen’s public history – it will always be brought up when convenient for the *journalist* making a point about negatives in an article about public personas or about Kristen’s career arc or whatever. To me, it’s a fluff piece trying to make a relevant point about young stars and the use of social media as a tool for political voice. Would I like to read an article that credits Kristen for her ever increasing public political voice? Absolutely. But, there’s a part of me that wonders if what small acknowledgements we are getting is Kristen’s choice. She has never been one to *tout her horn*, so I don’t see her doing so even as she becomes more vocal about her political and social stances. And, to be honest, she’s never gonna win in the public field and I don’t think she cares. The haters will just diminish her efforts in their minds (and tweets) as just “PR”. So what’s new?!
    In the end, I don’t think this piece will affect her one way or the other. But I do agree with all that you have said and the emotions that get generated when Kristen is “used as a poster child for everything negative”.

  • Guest

    Not surprising if she can’t go due to her filming commitments.

  • Anna

    That piece is a poster child for lazy journalism. Sad excuse of “I’ll write this because I want to bring attention to more important subjects than ‘what are you wearing?’ but I can’t be really bothered to do a proper research so I’ll just use same old BS (Kristen was a typical teenage star who cared *only* about her style?! Same Kristen Stewart who got slandered every time she didn’t smile for paps or when she switched from high heels to sneakers? Like — really?!!!) to make my point” article. It’s worthless. And, above everything else, it’s counterproductive because it’s perpetuates most things those ladies are fighting against.

    As for Kristen caring or not . . . it doesn’t matter if she does because negative effects of all of that will catch up with her and her career (that already happened, if we are being honest). She’s not an island and she’s not living in a vacuum. That’s why, IMO, it’s better to try to deal with it than just let it go. But for that she needs good team. Which she doesn’t have.

  • Anna

    (For the record, I wouldn’t bring that piece here, as it is just one of many articles posted about her on a daily basis that are pretty much in the same tone as that one, if it wasn’t from THR — a trade. So it’s not only that the wide audience could read it (for them, it’s nothing new), it’s that the movie community will as well.)

  • Eme

    I guess I’m not sure what she or her team can do to change or control the narrative that has already been created about, for instance, the *scandal*. I mean, when the tool R.S. mentioned it while doing press for his bomb of a film, I thought Kristen’s silence was the best thing that could have been done. Anything else would have just *fueled the fire*. So I’m not sure what you are thinking when you say that it’s better to deal with *it* instead of letting it go.

  • Anna

    The scandal won’t disappear. It can’t. But referencing to it as a sex-scandal? Really?!! Did we get a tape or something? See, that’s where a good publicist *can* help. Working behind closed doors, cooperating with journalist that will then be easier on your client. Work on changing that whole narrative, something like “Yes, she made that mistake but she was young and she apologized for it. How many public personalities do you know who are capable of owning their wrongdoings in that way?” which would shift focus from all that negativity to to something that can be considered as a positive. It’s not what it is/was, it’s how it is perceived.
    Another example: that “I’m so gay, dude.” SNL thing that went viral will come back to bite her in the arse *if* she gets a BF sometime in the future (LGBTQ community is ten times worse than her usual haters when they turn against someone and they might do just that if they start seeing her as a fake member — she’s already labeled as a cheater and a bed-hopper) because all those “I’m bi but I used gay because it’s a general term and it’s a better punch line” clarifications didn’t reach wide audience (those people don’t exactly read Guardian), the whole thing wasn’t handled well at all from publicist’s POV.
    And so on and on.
    Plus, Ruth *never* managed to profit from good things happening in Kristen’s career. Never ever.

  • Eme

    Those are good examples and I can see your point. I guess I’m just wondering why Ruth hasn’t done those things you have suggested. Or, because we don’t know we can only speculate, maybe she has done things behind closed doors that we don’t know about but hasn’t been able to weld that strong of an influence. In the end, all I can do is fan girl my fav and hope for the best because anything else is out of my control. Except talking about it here.

  • Anna

    IDK. She’s not exactly doing much better job with her other clients so I think this is on Ruth (and Kristen for keeping her all these years).
    Same, Eme. That’s why all these rants. LOL

  • Eme

    Sigh. But, at least, we have this board!!

  • Anna

    (Until Discuss starts charging.)

  • Eme

    Yeah, I know. Crossing fingers.

  • Anna

    Yeah. I hope ladies who own this site will find a proper replacement for it if/when that change with Disqus’ terms of use happens.

  • Anna

    [LOL. Kristen’s hair is gone so Adir is working on Stella’s hairstyle for Met Gala.]

  • csm123

    Who cares ? Most young actors are not taken seriously as political activists. None of the women mentioned are taken seriously either regardless of what Teen Vogue’s editor thinks. I am glad Kristen didn’t get involved politically when she was much younger.

  • Anna

    Weekend BO final numbers:
    PS — $18,225 (from 20, not 22, theaters which is 17 less than last week, PTA: $911) for new domestic total $1,261,741.

    https://twitter.com/boxofficemojo/status/859168772829085696

  • Anna
  • Eme

    Um, I know it’s her party, but her outfit doesn’t reference the theme does it? Commes des Garcons & the Japanese fashion designer (my bad because I can’t remember her name), right?

  • Anna

    She never dresses to reference the theme (although, that feathers section is something that can fit the theme) and she always wears Chanel.
    Perks of being the boss. LOL

  • Eme

    Does she ever wear Prada?!!! LOL!!!

  • Anna

    Nah. That would be too obvious. Or is it meta? LOL

  • Eme

    It would be hilarious – that’s what it would be LOL!!!!

  • Anna

    [And, by some miracle, he did a really good job. So, as I said, it’s only Kristen’s hairstyles that he messes up constantly.]

  • Eme

    Rei Kawakubo (& I am not sure that she is Japanese).

  • Anna

    (She is.)

  • Eme

    Aww, perks of Twitter. You’re seeing things I am not able to.

  • Anna
  • Eme

    Wow! Hope we get to see the total look because the back view is gorgeous. Wonder what designer she is wearing. Anna?

  • Anna

    Here it is (don’t know who designed it):

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-xqVnXXcAAJwBP.jpg

  • Eme

    Thank you, my friend. I like the dress.

  • Anna

    You can look at the pics from red (well blue&white) carpet here:

    https://twitter.com/hashtag/metgala?f=images&vertical=default&src=hash

    Just make sure you are refreshing the page often. If you want to read actual tweets (with details about all the looks), switch from “photos” to “latest”.

  • Eme

    I think Disqus ate my last comment, but what I said was that I guessed she would be Japanese by her surname but that I didn’t want to assume anything.

  • Anna

    Your educated guess was correct 🙂

  • Anna

    Update: she’s wearing H&M dress.

  • Eme

    Thank you.

  • Anna
  • Eme

    And very few people are getting the theme – avant garde anyone? And, Katy Perry – man, she got creamed on Twitter because of her recent tone deaf comment on Twitter – and she shows up in that outfit. Somebody, help her.

  • Eme

    But it’s not avant garde enough.

  • Anna

    Well, in her defense, that *outfit* is much closer to this theme than 95% of other looks. But yeah. LOL

  • Anna

    If she’s there to represent the house/designer, she must wear whatever they tell her. It’s not like ladies who will wear Chanel tonight will do a much better job.

  • Eme

    That’s true.

  • Eme

    I knew you would know!

  • Anna
  • Anna

    lol

  • Eme

    She’s at least referencing the theme in a more gentle way.

  • Anna

    For those who are reading our convo about “the theme”, here’s what we are talking about.

    https://twitter.com/Resolute_Mag/status/859179012660224001

  • Anna
  • Eme

    Ahh, French version of avant garde!

  • Anna

    Yup! French from head to toe.

  • Anna

    Sad we aren’t getting a pic of her and Kristen now that they have matching hairstyles.

    Zoe Kravitz.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-x1E2ZXgAA52sc.jpg

  • Eme

    Her hair looks great. She looks good. Maybe those black pom poms on her dress go with the theme?!! Great shade of pink.

  • Anna

    Deff go with the theme.

  • Eme

    Lol!! Yeah!!

  • Anna

    Well, she’s following the theme to a T. Pharrell is being . . . Pharrell. LOL

    Helen Lasichanh and Pharrell Williams

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-xrF9NWsAAXt9w.jpg

  • Eme

    Yeah, I saw this earlier. She hit it out of the ballpark LOL! Heyyyyy, Pharrell!!

  • Anna

    His . . . shoes . . . are kinda nice? LOL

  • Eme

    Avant garde nerdy?!!! His stance is cracking me up. It adds to the nerdy vibe! He should have worn really gigantic glasses!

  • Anna

    I just like how he’s always different and himself. Guys usually aren’t prone to taking risks style wise.

  • Eme

    Oh, I love his style risk taking. It adds to his persona.

  • Anna
  • Eme

    She did a good job. Edgier shoes would have upped the avant garde level.

  • Anna

    Agree on both accounts.

  • Eme

    Um, Rihanna for the win – again!

  • Anna

    The only look I think Kristen would have liked/worn.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-xr02pXYAE2r3U.jpg

  • Anna

    Um. It definitely has that WOW effect but I don’t like it all that much, tbh.

  • Eme

    Oh, I know!! The win is for the theme! I don’t like it either lol!

  • Guest

    Nah, I don’t think Kristen would ever wear that. The one Cara is wearing, on the other hand…

  • Eme

    I liked it when I saw it, but I didn’t think it was avant garde enough.

  • Anna

    IDK. I think it fits her style (if it wasn’t in that color, lol).

  • Anna

    This better *and* it fits the theme.

    Lily Aldridge

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-x46GLWsAEcOWf.jpg

  • Eme

    Oh, I missed that one.

  • Eme

    Yeah, I liked the look and thought it fit the theme. But it wasn’t *dramatic* enough imo.

  • Anna

    It’s that silver suit from Chanel’s latest collection I immediately said Kristen would wear if she could.

    Here (to me, that blue one above fits the theme better than this one):

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-yB99ZXkAEXmEi.jpg

  • Anna

    If you look at the pics from Met exhibition, that lady designer also has quite a few more “ordinary” looks.

  • Eme

    I like both of them. The blue one needs to be worn unbuttoned with either an edgy top or no top. And both these suits need edgier shoes.

  • Guest

    This would have been perfect for last year’s theme.

  • Anna

    Agree about the shoes.
    What works in Cara’s favor is that thing on her head (she’s 100% bald, like she shaved her head for a role).

  • Eme

    OMG!! I thought she had dyed her hair!! Totally forgot that she had shaved her head for her latest role.

  • Anna
  • Anna

    BTW, this is Lily’s full look (Chanel, of course).

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-yIIISXoAAFbK8.jpg

  • Anna

    (That’s because she’s wearing that designer’s dress. Of course it’s going to be perfect for the theme.)

  • nonA

    i just read the article & i was wondering if she was talking about “our” Kristen Stewart for a minute there, even though she did mention Twilight, ha! “They landed the big-budget roles, hit the right red carpets, had access
    to the right stylists and didn’t say things that pissed off their
    impressionable fan base or their parents — at least not in public.” she pissed off people all the time with her honesty – which is one thing we love about her – even if it was apolitical back then. and why didn’t the writer mention JLaw, i wonder.

  • Anna

    [Kristen wasn’t even there tonight and yet this fandom has managed to create a drama. But, at least this time, it did serve for something: masks are finally down. No one believed me when I told few people that mods/administrators/owners of certain big – probably the biggest fully active – fan site are in fact haters who are trash talking about Kristen and her family/friends/significant others every chance they get on their own accounts but tonight they went too far and some things are now out in the open. I’m only sad that this confirms that, after IOKTBY went out of the business, Kristen’s fans only have one good fan site left. Sigh.]

  • Anna

    Exactly my point.

  • Eme

    It fits her style. Theme, not so much.
    She looks lovely.

  • Eme

    Wow. Now that’s impressive. I like it!!!

  • Anna

    (I don’t know why, but I never liked that particular color/shade of pink.)

  • Eme

    Since I’m only familiar with this site and IOKTBY, the drama is lost on me.

  • Anna

    We are using that site for everything, though.

  • Eme

    It’s a pretty *loud* pink.

  • Anna

    Exactly. It demands attention. And I don’t like being in center of attention so there’s that.

  • Eme

    Huh. I guess this all happened on Twitter.

  • nonA

    i’m lost along with you….

  • Eme

    Yeah, that shade of pink is fairly attention getting, lol.

  • Anna

    Yes. That’s where all the info is coming from.

  • Eme

    So we’ll be lost together lol . . . . .

  • Eme

    Ok, smh.

  • Anna

    Where do you go when you want to see the pics?

  • Anna

    Funny thing, it’s from Spring 2000 collection.

  • Eme

    I go to @adoringKS and, if nothing there, I go to the Brazilian site you told me about. Hmmmm.

  • Anna

    Only one of those can be considered as big fan site.

  • Anna

    Kristen’s feature (and ex) co-star.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-xuOZRXoAAvAQr.jpg

  • Eme

    Really?

  • Anna

    Talking about ex co-stars, anyone has full pic of Julianne Moore’s dress?

  • Anna

    Yes, really. *That* site. For quite a long time.

  • Eme

    She looks beautiful!! I’m so glad Kristen will be working with her. She is so talented!

  • Anna

    That collaboration is the only saving grace of that project so far.

  • Eme

    Well, between the 2 of them perhaps they can pull it through and make it better than what’s on paper right now. Hope Train riding.:)

  • Eme

    Huh. Interesting.

  • Anna

    Yeah. And if Franco really puts himself out there and gives his best (because, when he does that he’s great) then maybe it won’t be a total disaster.

  • Anna

    She’s fan of vintage Chanel so maybe that’s why.

  • nonA

    glad they’re getting to work together, really together – not just on the same movie in a separate ‘episode’! they both started very young, very talented, & came from film families, Kristen worked w/her dad, lots in common. win-win!

  • Anna

    Another Chanel look (last year’s Spring collection).

    Leslie Mann

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-yQW0sWsAE90na.jpg

  • Anna

    Plus Brie (pre-fall 2017 collection).

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-yQR40XgAU6mc7.jpg

  • Eme

    Absolutely!!

  • Eme

    I need to keep remembering that when he’s good, he’s good. And when he’s bad . . . .

  • Eme

    I like the dress. She looks good!

  • Anna

    Don’t even go there. He’s also producing this thing and that director is a friend of his so it’s either going to be something solid (which in recent years, sadly, with/to Franco happens once in a blue moon) or a total flop in every way.

  • Eme

    God, I’m riding the Hope Train so hard!!!

  • Anna

    I don’t. It’s like two dresses put together: top from one, skirt part from the other one.

  • Eme

    Awww, to me that’s what saves it from being boring! Lol!!

  • Anna

    Yeah but those parts are too different. LOL

  • Anna

    Last Chanel look this evening (same collection as Brie’s dress).

    Jemima Kirke

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-yXljaXoAACbVm.jpg

  • Eme

    Well, the theme was avant garde lol!!!

  • Eme

    What is it with the shoes tonight!! I didn’t like the pairings in many of the outfits. And this one – smh. It isn’t even close to avant garde. Just. . . no.

  • Anna

    But those shoes are *exactly* the kind Kristen likes. LOL

    Joking aside, agree.

  • Eme

    Lol!! Agree!!

  • Anna

    And MCR will like them, too, for sure. No high heels. LOL

  • Anna
  • Eme

    Oh, I like it very much!

  • Eme

    It fits her beautifully. And it certainly fits her style.

  • Eme

    Oh, ok.

  • Anna
  • Anna

    @cjscissorhands
    Puppy love.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BTk8u1DlG38/

  • BrendaStar

    I hope no one minds if I am disagreeable. Poor Cara, I think she looks like an alien from the old Star Trek TV shows, and they had the worst costumes.

  • BrendaStar

    I love Lily’s look too.

  • BrendaStar

    Riley looks great, snd it fits the theme.

  • BrendaStar

    That hair style is gorgeous on her, and she looks beautiful in soft pink.

  • BrendaStar

    Really elegant too.

  • BrendaStar

    Stella is gorgeous!

  • BrendaStar

    They are adorable.

  • Eme

    LOL!!!

  • MCR

    True, I approve that part. But shoes don’t *have* to be ugly to be low-heeled.

  • MCR

    What bothers me is the “abused girlfriend” look with the eye makeup.

  • MCR

    Cute. It stops a safe distance from being Big Bird. 😉 She carries it off nicely, I think.

  • MCR

    Likewise.

  • MCR

    Just what I was going to say LOL. Valade’s looks good, but this one is much too campy-sci-fi.

  • Anna

    Those aren’t ugly, MCR — when you wear them with skinny jeans. LOL

  • MCR

    I’m growing mine out, now that everybody’s doing it. 😉

  • MCR

    Oh no, they aren’t ugly at all. I’m just saying *somebody* could design beautiful, formal shoes with low heels. I’m sure a few designers do that already. It just needs to catch on.

  • Anna

    Chanel has those (low heels shoes) but they are kinda too business meeting like and not exactly for younger than 35.
    Elegant flat shoes are rare.

  • MCR

    Let’s hope there’s love on both sides. That thing could fit her head in its mouth.

  • Anna

    Well, I think we can be certain that pup (!) likes her. He/she is smitten with her. Pretty much all dogs are. LOL

    (If that really is a puppy, how big he/she will be when fully grown up?!! I mean … )

  • Anna
  • BrendaStar

    I didn’t see this one yesterday. I really like it pretty much like everyone here.

  • BrendaStar

    I’m glad you commented. I didn’t know of anyone else would understand. I remember Kristen’s first Met Gala. Someone dressed her in a black number from Chanel that was a bad enough, but then someone gave her the most hideous hair style.

  • Anna
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  • Anna

    Check that instagram video as you can see almost the whole collection.
    I like it a lot.
    Maybe Kristen will wear some pieces in Cannes this year.

  • Anna

    (Not all the looks but these aren’t in that video above.)

    https://twitter.com/wwd/status/859774946553327618

  • Eme

    Very Grecian/Roman vibe to the collection. The video has some romper & shorts that I think Kristen would wear. My favs for the ones shown here are 4,13 (pants), 17 (radical look for Kristen), 18 (skirt but I like the top also, but maybe not for Kristen), 21 & 23.
    I like the collection.

  • Eme

    Yes, I can see that.

  • Eme

    And the shoes gave it an extra edge.

  • Eme

    Lol! Thank goodness no color yellow in sight!

  • Eme

    I love it when we all comment with different opinions when these fashion events happen. It’s fun and your comment about Cara & Star Trek vibe was funny as heck! Thanks, Brenda!

  • Anna

    OMG. They updated that gallery. When I checked it, there were only 21 looks in it and now there are 57 of them.

    Yes! I immediately saw those pants (they are also part of #14 look) as something Kristen could easily wear.
    Also, I very much agree on the look #4 (and all light short dresses like that one, actually and Kristen likes wearing them, with some modifications, more than long dresses or gowns).
    Look #24 is something that she could wear but only in theory. Same with #25 and #26. Not sure about #32 and #34 but I wouldn’t be surprised.
    I like #37. Look #45 is interesting.
    That white dress #47 would be perfect.

  • Anna

    P.S. She can always cut off some of those long dresses. LOL

  • nuca

    Loved it. The collection kind of has Kriaten’s name on it:) does anybody know who is that blond little boy, who is always with Karl closing the show?

  • Anna

    Karl’s godson, Hudson Kroenig.

  • Eme

    They keep updating – it’s now at 111 outfits. I’m going to wait till they finish updating because the numbers for the outfits keep changing. Then I’ll post my favs for Kristen!

  • Anna

    What?!
    OK, will do the same.
    (Now, let me check the new ones. LOL)

  • Anna

    Eme, this list is much better (that one from WWD has double posts of so many looks).

    https://twitter.com/voguemagazine/status/859795262696501249

  • Guest

    Beautiful collection.

  • Eme

    Thank you, Anna. I do love this collection. So many of the textured, “tweedy” looking pieces I love but you need to be tall and thin to wear them, imo. So, from this post my favs are the following (which I may or may not see Kristen wearing): 8, 13, 17 (shorts) 23, (pants, although I think they would overwhelm Kristen), 25 (because she’s showing her mid section a lot lately), 29, 32 (shirt) 42, 43 (because she looks good in white at Cannes), 45, 51 (pants) 55 (love, love, love), 57* (for the win), 66 (pants), 70 (something out of the box and without the shawl), 71 (skirt), 74 (love this but don’t know if Kristen could wear it), 81 (love but don’t know for Kristen). That’s it. Jmo. If I could afford Chanel, I could definitely see some pieces I’d go for (and that’s if I could get over the extravagance and my social conscience – so, never gonna happen for me, lol!!).

  • Anna

    (To anyone who might be reading that post: scratch those numbers because the list is now completely different.)

  • Anna

    Yes, this is really nice *and* wearable collection. I really like it a lot.

    So, lets start: #1 I could see on Kristen (kinda), #3 I like but I don’t think she would wear that color, #5 – if that is a skirt (it’s more likely a dress with a jacket) then yes, #9 – she wore skirts like that before but, again, it’s the color, #10 – perfect for Kristen but, yes you guessed it right – color, #14 I *really* like (and would love to see it on Kristen but probably won’t happen),

    #16 – yes, yes and yes! (my favorite piece in that entire collection),

    #17 – shorts, just as you said, #18 skirt, #19 – another big yes (my second favorite look), #20 – logically because I liked #19, #21 – long dress Kristen could actually want to wear, #23 – that top/T-shirt (I like the whole look but Kristen isn’t tall enough for those pants, IMO), #26 – this time even color is good, #27 – wonder about that skirt/short dress, #28 – but only because I would have never guessed she would wear that white dress for PS premiere last year in Cannes so who knows, #29 and #34 – a maybes, #36 – it looks comfy enough and it’s in the color(s) she likes to wear, #40 – kinda edgy so it must have its place on the list just because, #45 – of all pieces, that simple white dress is something she would most likely wear (and I like it very much, my 3rd favorite), #51 – that 2 piece jumpsuit (lets call it that way) is also very Kristen, #52 – pants just because they are edgy, #56 – I like it but I’m not sure Kristen would wear it, #57 – everything I said about #45 applies here as well, #58 and #59 but only if they make some modifications and made them a bit simpler, #62 – I kinda like but Kristen probably not so much, #66 – whole look but especially those pants, #68 – that crop top, #71 – the skirt, #78, #79, #80 – IDK, maybe (colors and those tops?), #83 – I would really like to see that dress on Kristen but it’s not likely.
    And that’s it 🙂

  • Anna
  • Eme

    My only reservation with #16 is that band underneath the bosom line, but then, it does give it an edge so why not? There are so many potentials for her, but I think if she does wear Chanel at Cannes (why not), it’ll probably be one of the more *casual* looks, particularly because she’s premiering her short and not in competition (so no RC). I do love this collection because it is so wearable – and it is a beautiful collection. Sigh.

  • Eme

    Oh gosh. Nice. NYFF? Red pantsuit RC look?

  • Anna

    Yup! CW premiere at NYFF.

  • Anna

    We think exactly the same about #16. I really like it even with that detail (which probably can be removed anyway).

    Agree. But there are casual looks in this collection, too. Not tomboy casual but as casual as Chanel can be (#36, for example, or #26).
    (Watch her wearing skinny jeans and a T-shirt, LOL.)

  • Eme

    OT: If you have the time, check out Brad Pitt’s new interview in GQ. It is a beautiful example of the way to change the narrative after a major misstep in one’s public persona and the power of an A-list persona – you get to have more *chips* to play with and call in when you’re *losing* the game. Also, an example of a great PR machine. Even the journalist is on his side. You think those questions and the answers weren’t chosen very carefully to fuel a certain narrative? And I’m not dissing his honesty and owning up to his actions when I say that I’m impressed by the work that happened behind the interview. But then, again, it’s also an example of male privilege.

  • Eme

    Yeah. I won’t be surprised if she does that. Oh well.

  • Anna

    Ha! Just read it, like hour ago.

    And I have *such a rant* about double standards (with quite a few parallels between Brad-AJ situation and the one Pattinson-Kristen went though during Twilight years — well, both of those ladies still are dealing with that BS, on different levels) in my head right now … Ugh!!!!

    Journalist is a guy (enough said!) who is probably intimidated by women like AJ (with all her faults and virtues is is a force of nature, IMO) and thus resents them (yes, I know it’s a generalization but you would be surprised how many times that turns to be exactly what they are all about). Men stick together. That’s why they prosper.
    It’s a “poor me, confused alone guy” piece, Eme. The only way to get back at the position he once had in public’s eye. He needs to be the good guy in that whole story.
    (Notice how men are allowed to apologize and all is forgiven, they can move on just like that but women never get that opportunity.)

  • Anna

    (And yes, that interview is perfect example of what we talked about few days ago – how good PR can help change/improve/turn around public perception. It really can. But you have to have someone 100x better than Ruth working for you. Sigh.)

  • Eme

    Oh, I know the publicist gave the ok for the interview to be printed. Enough said.

  • Eme

    Yup to all you said.

  • Anna
  • Stephanie

    Thanks Eme. She needs a better PR. JS.

  • Stephanie

    I totally agree.

  • Anna

    Oh man, she was there today. I want another pic of Kristen and her (at least that). Sigh.

    https://twitter.com/Mel452/status/859896612272783363

  • MCR

    “Men stick together. That’s why they prosper.” Along with the corresponding fact that women tend to attack one another.

  • Anna

    Sad truth.

  • Eme

    THIS^^^^^!!!!

  • Eme

    Yes.

  • Eme

    LOL!!! I gotta say, when women journalists get snarky, they win by a long shot against their male cohorts. LMAO at the multiple punches she threw at new “sad dad” Brad, Ben A., and Toby M. And for good measure, she threw in Calvin H. (“not a dad” hilarious), Johnny D. (just “bad” not “sad”) and Chris M. (“not sad enough”). And yeah, I don’t have to imagine what kind of articles would be written if women were to play the *sympathy* card. They get accused of that whether they act that way or not. And, sadly, like MCR said above, a lot of the accusers are other women.

  • Eme

    She just oozes *it* doesn’t she? And, I also want another pic of Kristen and her.

  • nuca

    Thank you Anna, that’s what I suspected as well:) he’s really cute.

  • MCR

    It’s so unfortunate.

  • MCR

    “At least that” – as in, it would be far better to see them cast together in something. 💓

  • Eme

    It really is. No words.

  • Anna

    Exactly.

  • Anna
  • Stephanie

    All pictures are beautiful. She has a radiant smile. My favorite is the first row, second picture. Thanks Anna.

  • Anna

    That one is from CS set.

    You are welcome, Stephanie.
    Hope everything is good with you 🙂

  • Stephanie

    I’m good. Thanks for asking. Love you Anna 😘

  • Anna
  • Stephanie

    Lol. Yes indeed, you just put a smile on me.

  • Anna

    Mission accomplished then. Yay!

  • Stephanie

    Awww. You are so sweet. 🙂

  • Anna

    Umm. Why they are using this fine Chanel makeup for Underwater? LOL

    @iamstacey_makeup
    Kristen’s look @chanelofficial #kristenstewart #UnderwaterMovie #lovemyjob💄💋

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BTt9tYkgha4/?taken-by=iamstacey_makeup

  • Anna

    BLLHW DVD and Blu-Ray to come out on June 7th in Brazil.

    https://twitter.com/KStewartBR/status/860568402544533505

  • Anna
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  • Eme

    Sigh.

  • Eme

    Well, she’ll look good *underwater* lol!

  • Eme

    Greetings on Cinco de Mayo, everyone. I don’t much care to celebrate today in the USA, but wanted to extend greetings to my friends on this board. It’s important to me – the small gestures of kindness. Carry on.

  • Anna
  • Anna
  • Anna

    LOL

    “Oh, really? Do you write notes to directors often?

    Occasionally. Not very often. But, man, also when I saw Clouds of Sils Maria, I went, “Wow, there’s some of the movies I love coming back in fashion.”

    Definitely. It’s an incredible movie.

    Oh, yeah. So I wrote Olivier Assayas a letter. I do that because I don’t know how else it works.

    It would so cool to see you in an Assayas film.

    Well, I got a quick response, but I was writing first as a fan. I don’t if I can wrench him away from Kristen Stewart. Maybe I can play her mother.”

  • Stephanie

    Same to you Eme and everyone here.

  • Eme

    I have always loved Debra Winger as an actress. And after reading this interview I admire her even more. That clip from Shadowlands brought me back to the theater watching it crying my eyes out. What an emotional film. One of my 2 favorite Anthony Hopkins movie, the other being Remains of the Day. Gosh, lovely memories.
    And she & Kristen in the same film – Yessss!!

  • Anna

    (I think you can guess what I want to say. Sigh. Oh well.)

    https://twitter.com/Beccamford/status/860613848012693504

  • Anna

    I LOVE Shadowlands. Some of the lines from that movie . . . oh man.

  • Anna

    (And it’s a great project overall. Dammit!)

  • MCR

    Thank you, Eme. Happy holiday to anyone celebrating it. 🇲🇽

  • MCR

    And she has to have her head out of the water occasionally.

  • Eme

    There have been only 2 other films that made me cry as hard as I cried while watching Shadowlands. I didn’t think I would be able to stop – it was that emotional for me.

  • Anna

    Uh-oh. It’s enough for me to see a sad commercial (or one with cute animals) and I’ll start crying. So you can guess what happens during emotional movies – a flood. LOL

  • Anna
  • Eme

    I used to be that way but I guess I got more jaded as I got older. I haven’t cried like that (I think they call it an “ugly cry” – you know, the kind Viola Davis does whenever her characters cry) for awhile. I did get teary eyed with Still Alice and Equals but no ugly cry.

  • Eme

    But my heart gets torn a lot these days. Js.

  • Eme

    Haha! Yup!!!

  • Anna

    Ugly cryer I am, yes sir. LOL

  • Eme

    LOL!!

  • Anna

    (I’m constantly going between being scared or mad as hell. Things are falling apart.)

  • Eme

    Agree.

  • Eme

    It certainly has major talent behind it. Neil Jordan is a force! Loved The End of the Affair. Thought it captured Graham Greene’s book brilliantly. And Julianna Moore was magnificent in it.

  • Anna

    Exactly. So . . . dammit!

  • Eme

    Sigh. Again.

  • Anna

    I’m a jinx. That’s it. Ugh.

  • Eme

    Nice.

  • Eme

    Nah, there’s other forces in play here, none of which have anything to do with you or us mere mortals.

  • Anna

    Sigh ……………………………………………………………………………….

  • Eme

    ……………………………………again.

  • Anna

    Story of our fandom.

  • Eme

    But, to be fair, I don’t know much about the project except what was written, but perhaps Kristen *aged out* in terms of Chloe’s character. I get a sense that the Chloe character is younger than Kristen. After all, Kristen is 27 and, for me, has lost that young, naive look about her that is probably a requirement for the character. Just me speculating.

  • Anna

    Yes, that’s possible.
    Only, Chloe doesn’t look that young either.
    And Kristen can pass for a 20 yo. But yes, she doesn’t have that kind of look in her eyes anymore.
    (Isabelle Huppert, thought !!!)

  • Eme

    I know, I know. Dammit!!!

  • csm123

    There was some speculation about Kristen back when David Slade was attached to direct the movie in 2013 but that may have been due to them having worked together in Eclipse. The script is supposed to be so-so and the project never took off.

  • Guest

    FYI Ruth is getting married today in Cali. Kristen is there.

  • Anna

    Yeah, that was expected.
    Ruth’s engagement didn’t last too long. And that place is nice.
    Kristen got Friday off. I think it was between Met and the wedding and she picked wedding.

  • Eme

    Of course she did. Congrats to Ruth.

  • Eme

    Thanks for this nice tidbit.

  • Anna

    Yeah.
    I told you guys last year that she was engaged but, up until this last weekend, I though her wedding was going to be in June (based on some instagram posts). That’s when fans found out the exact date. I was surprised she got day off, though, seeing she skipped Met (she could have made it without it but that would be cutting it really close and she would miss pre-wedding festivities) but now it’s kinda obvious it was a trade off. Which is completely understandable.

    All the best to Ruth and her soon to be husband 🙂

  • Anna
  • Anna

    Well, it’s not like any of projects Kristen managed to book after 2014 (Lizzie, JT LeRoy, Underwater) are actually promising in any way. That one would be like winning a lottery right now. We need to stop pretending that she’s getting offered the very best or close to that (it’s almost the opposite).

  • MCR

    We don’t know what she’s being offered; we just know what she’s choosing. Maybe potentially successful mainstream films bore her. You know what she’s said about her selection process.

  • Anna

    Who said anything about mainstream movies? Right now I would be happy with a films like CW — tiny movies with big critical acclaim. Everything else (better and bigger than that) would be just a dream, IMO.
    Getting to be anything more than a small supporting character in solid mainstream films (which I don’t think Underwater will be but hopefully, I’ll be proven wrong) is a long gone time for her, IMO. That train left the station. Now being in movies like Still Alice (indies with certain mainstream potential) is as far as she can go. If she tries really hard.

    As for what she’s being offered . . . of course we don’t know for a fact which scripts she gets to read but tell me this: do you really think she would choose those 3 projects (Lizzie, JT LeRoy, Underwater), *only* 3 new projects in 2 and a half years, if she was offered anything close to CW/CS/PS? Don’t underestimate her. She likes challenges (which is a good thing) but she’s not *that* stupid/chill/reckless to miss out on far better films. IMO, she’s not getting them.
    Anyway, time will be the final judge, as always.

  • Eme

    Awww! Sweet pic!!

  • Anna

    PS in only 7 theaters this weekend (and next week?), 13 less than last weekend.
    It’s done.

    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/counts/chart/?yr=2017&wk=18&p=.htm

  • Anna
  • Anna

    (Well, this wedding is, at least in theory, the best sign of strength and commitment that exist in Ruth’s relationship. And is, at the same time, by the look of things, also a sign of opposite of that for Kristen’s current relationship. Sigh.)

  • Guest

    What? Because Stella isn’t there? She has her own career and possible obligations. Also Ruth probably barely knows her and she could be having a smaller wedding without inviting the world. Not everyone is asked to bring a date. At least where I am a lot of people follow the “no ring, no bring” rule because weddings are so expensive. Idk why you think anything is wrong. Kristen was liking and commenting on pics of Stella this week. Then again, this is Kristen so I guess things can literally change overnight.

  • Anna

    Well see, where I’m coming from, if someone is good enough for you to sleep with for 5 months, to spend most of your free time with and, for better or worse, de facto live with for last month and a half then I don’t get how that person isn’t good to be your +1 at a wedding of your friend. That doesn’t make much sense to me (if this relationship is more than just a thing that happened out of convenience as a way to fight boredom, that is).

    From what I know, Ruth’s wedding isn’t small (it’s not like closest friends and family only) and there’s no “no ring, no bring” rule (but maybe those stalkers got the wrong info).

  • Anna
  • csm123

    Kristen chose both JT Leroy and Lizzie in 2015. As far as we know she didn’t chose anything other than maybe Underwater in 2016, when she was fully committed to her short film. Kristen had been quite clear throughout 2016 that her short film was her #1 priority and I am surprised that so many of her fans have problem accepting that. I think it is possible that she will take another break to make her gun control short later this year. She seems to be serious enough about the issue that she is getting involved withe the Brady campaign.

  • Anna

    Keep seeing pics of Jesse with his baby son. Hope Kristen got to meet him.
    IDK, I just miss them having fun like this together.

    https://twitter.com/queennn94/status/860987853727293440

  • csm123

    Underwater is much more promising commercially. JT Leroy is probably the most complex role Kristen has ever done. I don’t see anything of value in this role.

  • Anna

    It’s not the number of those projects that’s the issue here, it’s their quality. Because, even on paper, those movies don’t come nowhere near solid at least. So, if those were the best/most interesting scripts she got, you must admit she’s in trouble. Because, if after making a history and winning that Cesar in Feb 2015 and all those critics’ awards, the best she can get are these type of films then . . . Plus, she got Lizzie because Chloe wanted her in it and JT LeRoy because Franco asked her – those scripts weren’t sent to her via her agent which makes this whole situation even worse.
    (Funny thing how she was getting much better offers in 2012/2013/2014 and then, as soon as those Hawaii pics came out and her mom made a mess in with that interview of hers, things obviously changed. We are now seeing the consequences of those events from 2 years ago. I guess in another 2 years, we are going to see how events from last summer and beginning of this year will affect her career. IMO, it’s not going to get better.)

  • Anna

    I think her role in PS is more complex than that in JT LeRoy.
    Underwater looks like a dud, nothing promising commercially about it at all (what’s the draw?).

  • csm123

    Again we don’t know what offers she is getting. We just know what movies she has picked and as far as we know she has picked only one movie since the beginning of 2016 and that’s a lead role in a $65 million studio movie.

  • csm123

    Underwater is a popcorn action/adventure flick. Movies like that make money every year. They also flop every year so who knows.

  • Anna

    A movie studio no one else from A-list wanted to be in. There was no bidding war nor for that script/concept nor for that lead role. They couldn’t even get solid supporting cast.

  • csm123

    Also Kristen’s role in JT Leroy is significantly more complex than anything she has ever done including PS, which isn’t a complex role at all. In JT Leroy she gets to play two roles, one of which is a young man with West Virginia accent. It is also a very physical role because Savannah Knoop used a lot of physicality in constructing her JT Leroy character.

  • Anna

    Even in that category of “popcorn action/adventure flicks” there are level of quality, so to say. This one isn’t even in middle of that scale.
    I don’t mind your optimism. It’s just that I, when it comes to that particular film, have none.
    We’ll see after they set the date. That will tell us all we need to know.

  • csm123

    Mid-budget studio movies don’t have more than one A-list role. Even a movie like Tomb Raider only has Alicia Vikander and that budget is a lot bigger (100 million+). The usual formula is to have one big name star and surround them with solid character actors.

  • csm123

    Peter Chernin + the budget = Enough quality for a movie like this. If they can make a cool looking movie and sell the concept they will make some money.

  • Anna

    Excuse me, but internalizing such a deep pain like the one someone feels after losing a twin (!) brother when you personally have no experience with it, is a *very* complex thing to do/achieve.
    Don’t confuse plot/story structure with emotional complexity of a character.

  • Anna

    Charming guy isn’t a miracle worker. He’s no guarantee for anything.
    And making “some money” won’t be nearly enough. That movie needs to earn $195M+ to be profitable.
    I agree about one thing, though: they’ll have to try to sell the concept, not the cast (no appealing for general public there).

  • csm123

    I am talking about conventional acting norms. You need accents, you need to change your physicality and you need to go through a series of emotions . You know the kind of roles that are recognized by the Academy. Kristen has never done a role that even comes close to JT Leroy.

  • csm123

    He is not a miracle worker. He is very picky about movies. There is no way he gives $65 million to an obvious dud.

  • Anna

    Tom Rider is a well established franchise/IP. It can almost sell itself.
    And Alicia is an Oscar winner. And much better at promo duties (People simply love her).
    Mid-budget studio movies are the biggest risk at the market today. And when they aren’t based on something that already has a pre-built audience nor are led by well liked A-list star(s), they will face an uphill battle to get their budget back.

  • csm123

    Sorry but no one gives a fuck about Alicia Vikander or most actors really. There are maybe a dozen box office draws in entire Hollywood and maybe two actresses under 30 who can sell movies on their names alone. Vikander isn’t one of them.

  • Anna

    He’s not giving that money, his company and FOX are. Producers and studios do invest in duds: look at what will happen with this new $100M+ King Arthur movie that no one asked to be made — it looked equally bad on paper as Underwater and yet they made it so the fact that some people are ready to invest that amount of money in a film isn’t a sign of its good market potential.

  • csm123

    King Arthur and Underwater have literally nothing in common.

  • Anna

    Cake Eaters, Runaways. This one might be slightly more complex than those two (although, what is more complex than playing someone who is de facto dying?; or someone who is still very much alive and still famous so you have to do them justice?) so no, she did all that before. And it’s not like people behind JT LeRoy are any better than those who made those two other films so don’t count on Academy noticing it (we need a miracle for something like that to happen).

  • Anna

    They don’t have to.
    I’m just trying to tell you that people *will* invest tens of millions of $ into movies that even on paper have very low chances of succeeding.
    Nothing about Underwater says this might be good, IMO.
    We’ll never agree on that, though, so lets stop running in circles.

  • csm123

    I am not counting on Academy noticing it but people who makes movies that Academy notices will notice it and they want Kristen to show that she can do complex Oscar-baity roles.

  • Anna

    And yet, she is in position to attract more people who might think to see her movie during promos than Kristen ever could. She’s likeable, Kristen (fairly or not) isn’t.
    But that wasn’t the main point. Alicia’s movie has a big pre-built audience. Underwater is a project no one outside this fandom is aware of.

  • csm123

    I am talking about one specific guy and how he picks movies. There is literally nothing in his resume to suggest he likes to throw away big sums of money chasing duds. Does that mean Underwater will be a success ? No but the track record of producers is the most important thing in studio system. Directors are replaceable and 90% of them don’t even have final cut.

  • Anna

    They don’t want Kristen to do anything. You are acting like people are on her side rooting for her to succeed. All evidence points to opposite situation.
    If CoSM and CW and PS and maybe even CS didn’t reach those people, JT LeRoy won’t for sure. Although, some might watch it because of Laura.

  • csm123

    There is no evidence that she can attract more people. There is not even any evidence that she is more famous than Kristen or more likeable. I have not seen her Q-score so I can’t tell but I am willing to make a bet that Kristen has much greater name recognition than Vikander.

  • csm123

    There is no pro or opposite situation. Producers and directors want to hire good, competent actors for their awards-bait movies. Kristen has shown she can do certain things well but there are a lot of areas where she hasn’t shown anything. SNL gave her an opportunity to show that she can do some comedy and that she won’t die on a live stage. JT Leroy gives her an opportunity to showcase that she can play complex and flamboyant characters.

  • Anna

    More famous? She probably isn’t. But guess what? She’s not infamous either. At all. Kristen is more infamous than famous. Name recognition based on negativity doesn’t count for much.
    Is Alicia more likeable than her? Definitely. She can charm a room full of people easily (not as quick as Emma S. or JLaw, though, but people do like her *a lot*).
    And public doesn’t think she’s the worst actress of her generation (that’s Kristen’s title, sadly).
    So, you see, all that coupled with the fact that they don’t have to start with the promo from the scratch is something that is giving her and her movie big advantage over Kristen and her film.

  • Anna

    Maybe. But that what you are saying isn’t the reason Kristen accepted to do that film nor the why James wanted her to do it. Producers aren’t people who are there to help actors improve their careers, they have their agents and managers for that. Heck, producers love typecasting especially when it works.
    As a matter of fact, on the day JT LeRoy was announced every single critic said Kristen was perfect for that role because it’s exactly her type of character – nothing outside her comfort zone there.

  • gillian kemp

    I want them to working together. Maybe as siblings and not a romantic couple.

  • Anna

    Peter Cherin isn’t a guarantee for anything. You want one example? See what happened with Mike and Dave Need Wedding Dates (of course, if wasn’t a total flop as it got 2 and a half of its budget back but it also was 50% cheaper than Underwater and it had Anna Kendrick and Zack Efron, among others). Or Exodus: Gods and Kings — a $140M movie that was a real BO bomb (see, he can throw away $140M so doing the same with $65M is probably nothing to him). And so on.

  • Anna

    Or enemies. That would be something different.

  • csm123

    I agree about Kristen but I don’t agree about Vikander. She is a complete unknown and most movie-goers don’t even know who she is. Anyway my point was that even though she isn’t more famous, well-known than Kristen she is still the only big name in her $100 million+ movie. There are practical reasons for that. One is money . Second, once you put an actress in the lead role most A-list male actors won’t agree to play second fiddle to her. The way around is to surround her with talented supporting character actors and that’s what is going on with Underwater.

  • gillian kemp

    It’s possible Stella had other commitments, or she was not invited. You only bring a date, if you have permission. She could be unwell or have family commitments.

  • csm123

    Exodus was a Ridley Scott film not a Chernin film. Directors like Scott can get any budget they want from studios that owe them. Fox/Chernin owes the director of Underwater nothing.

  • csm123

    Playing two different characters and putting on accents is what is outside her comfort zone. This type of character execution isn’t something Kristen has done since Runaways and she has never played two different characters ever.

  • Anna

    Don’t underestimate how many people saw Ex-Machina. It is reaching a cult status. Plus, her relationship with MF and her fashion contract with LV (plus, that Borne movie and the promo she did with Matt Damon) did improve her visibility when it comes to general public. Oscar played a role in that, too.
    So yeas, she’s not as well known as Kristen but she doesn’t need that for her Tomb Raider movies. And, if it succeeds, she’ll finally be famous as well.
    You can’t compare Underwater supporting cast with Tomb Riders’, they aren’t on the same level.
    And all those reasons you listed are fine but they don’t have anything to do with the promo which is our subject of discussion.

  • Anna

    Cherin produced Exodus. He wasn’t the only producers but he did produce it. So his judgment isn’t always the best one as you claimed.
    Who owes what to whom is irrelevant here.

  • csm123

    Underwater supporting cast is better. Cassel is a better actor and he can probably promote the movie in France better than anyone in either of these two movies. I haven’t even heard of anyone in Tomb Raiders’ cast other than Walton Goggins.

  • Anna

    She did accents before (and wasn’t exactly good at it) and she came close to playing two characters when she played Bella as a human and then vampire Bella (different body language, gestures, emotional context, ect.). Playing Savannah isn’t Kristen stepping outside of her comfort zone.

  • csm123

    He didn’t get to make any judgement. It was a Ridly Scott film. Scott was the more powerful producer in the Fox system back then and he also had the director’s cut.

  • Anna

    Cassel isn’t what he used to be in France (sadly) but yes, there he has a name recognition. We’ll see how much promo he will get to do, though.
    We are running in circles here as well because we are back at the beginning: Tomb Rider has pre-build audience, Underwater has nothing.
    So lets just drop this.

  • csm123

    I am talking about potential awardsbait role so no one cares about Twilight. How is Kristen playing a woman pretending to be a 19 year old redneck man transitioning into a woman not stepping out of her comfort zone ? It is a more complex role than she has ever played. It is a more complex role than most 27 year old actresses get to play.

  • Anna

    And? Cherin still agreed to invest in that stupidity of a movie. Or you want to tell me that you actually think making that film was a smart idea? Come on, you are better than that, csm.

  • csm123

    Fox was making that movie with or without him so chose to be with them. Underwater is a completely different situation as far as I can tell.

  • Anna

    Nah, she’s in her apartment posting pics on her insta whole day.
    Don’t know about being invited but CJ is there so it’s not like it’s a small wedding.

  • Anna

    You said she *never* did anything like that and I just told you she came close. She does the same work in the sense that she gives the same regardless of what type of a movie she’s in.
    It’s not stepping out of her comfort zone because, if you haven’t noticed, as of lately she has more mannerisms of a guy than those that belong to a girl (just check this newest pic of her that was posted). She doesn’t have to change much to play that role.
    Come on, keep your both feet on the ground, please. Don’t glorify that character. It is complex but not *that* much. LOL

  • Anna

    Sorry, but no one chooses to put his/hers name on a clear flop if they can help it.

  • csm123

    Who said it was a clear flop ? The movie didn’t came together. That can happen to any movie including Underwater.

  • csm123

    I have not seen these “mannerisms of a guy” in any of the roles she has done.

  • Anna

    That movie was/is one of the most mocked films made in last few years. So yeah, it’s a flop. In every way possible.

  • Anna

    That’s irrelevant.
    People know her as a tomboy (now more than ever). She’s going to play one in a movie. That’s not something people will see as “stretching her acting skills”.

  • csm123

    It made $270 million on a $140 million so it is a failure but Biblical movie +Ridley Scott is a very good pitch and I can see why a good producer would want to attach their name to a project like this if given the opportunity.

  • csm123

    Kristen was a Tomboy when she was filming Twilight and before that. That has nothing to do with her role. Also she will be be playing a woman pretending to be a man. That’s not a Tomboy last I checked.

  • Anna

    You mean, being part of big whitwashing scandal is a good idea? OK, if you say so.

  • csm123

    If the movie was good it would’ve made money. The big problem with Exodus was that the Christians didn’t turn up for it. That demographics alone can make a movie hit regardless of any whitewashing controversy.

  • Anna

    She is a woman (clearly) with mannerisms of a guy (clearly, especially as of lately) so we have both of those things covered. Very little transformation needed there.
    So, do you still want us to keep running in circles for another couple of hours?

  • csm123

    No, I want you to explain Kristen’s “mannerisms of a guy”. I have not seen any new mannerisms lately.

  • Anna

    It wasn’t your typical Biblical movie (it’s more of a fanfiction, actually, and a bad one at that) so that audience you are talking about wasn’t exactly it’s target audience.
    No one thought that thing was a good idea.

    Anyway, you said Peter Cherin’s track record is one of two main reasons why you have faith in Underwater and I just proved to you that he’s not as perfect producer as you said he was.
    Should we keep running?

  • Anna

    Sorry, but if you weren’t able to notice/see them on your own by now I’m afraid I can’t help you. Because, it is *that* obvious.

  • csm123

    The only two things obvious are

    1. Kristen has been dating women lately.

    2. She has short hair lately.

    Everything else, including her mannerisms, are the exact same as they were back when she was playing Joan Jett.

  • csm123

    Here you go.

    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/people/chart/?view=Producer&id=peterchernin.htm

    Out of his 11 movies, 9 have made money for sure. The 10th is The Drop which was a low budget Fox Searchlight film and did okay for what it was. The 11th is Exodus which likely lost money but even then it wasn’t the biggest failure of the year or anything like that. Chernin’s record is as perfect as you can hope for given the type of movies he has made.

  • Anna

    Nah. Her mannerisms have changed. That’s not to say she was a girly girl before, because she wasn’t, but the level of tomboyishness is at all time high as of lately. And no, it has nothing to do with her buzzcut although it surely reinforces that impression.

  • Anna

    Those aren’t *all* of his films (not according to his producing credits list on IMDb). Sorry.
    Also, check their budgets: more than two didn’t tripled it (which the type of movies like Underwater is supposed to do in order to be classified as success).

  • csm123

    Again how have her mannerisms changed ? She walks and talks the same as she always did. We have seen her interviews as recently as in March so I have no idea what are you talking about other than referencing homophobic Twihards who have convinced themselves there is something really, really wrong with Kristen because she is dating women and is no longer Bella.

  • Anna

    No, she doesn’t. She has changed. You either (want to) see it or not.
    And regardless of whether you can notice it or not, big majority of people does and is talking about it. Why do you think all the critics (including those who have seen her in person multiple times) think she’s perfect for that role?
    Honey, there’re more people in this world than Twihards. Also, it’s getting boring how, every time you are left without valid arguments, mentioning those people becomes your way out. You can do better. At least try, OK?

  • csm123

    The Hollywood rule of thumb is 2.0X multiplier not 3.0. Anyway I am not getting into which Hollywood movie made how much discussion because only the studios know how much they made. All I know is that Chernin has risen in Fox’s studio system and this year he has some pretty big projects at Fox even if you completely ignore Underwater.

  • csm123

    And you get pissed when I call you out on your homophobia. Kristen is exactly the same as she ever was. Watch the Today show interview from two months ago. I have seen thousands of comments on her SNL performances and not one said she is too manly. Yeah, she is dating women and she has short hair but that doesn’t make her mannerisms manly.

  • Anna

    Nah, it’s triple the budget. Forbes says so. I’ll trust them over you.

    I’m not against Chernin guy. Wish him all the best with all of his projects, including Underwater. But his track record isn’t as perfect as you implied it was. That’s all I’m saying.
    Are we done now?

  • Anna

    Yes! There you are, your real face. Finally.
    And when you decide to show it you always make me laugh. No, really, you do. Because, I’m so above whatever you may think of me.
    So . . . thanks for all the LOLs.

  • csm123

    So my real face is the person calling out homophobia. I will accept it as long as you accept your homophobia.

  • Anna
  • csm123

    It is Scott Mandelson who thinks 3.0X multiplier is accurate and he is wrong. Studios don’t exclude ancillary revenues from their calculations. Here is a good example.

    https://deadline.com/2017/03/hidden-figures-box-office-profit-2016-1202048264/

    Hidden Figures would’ve been profitable even if it had a $100 million budget.

  • Anna

    Dear, you *really* need to work on improving your deductive and analytical skills. Like, currently, with that claim you are on the opposite side of the truth.

  • csm123

    So calling Kristen manly just because she is dating women and has short hair is not homophobia ? Like I said, I am cool as long as you accept your homophobia.

  • Anna

    Hmmm. So, it’s budget was $25M, worldwide ads and promo costs were $65M (slightly higher than usual probably because of all that Oscar campaigning) and you are telling me it would have been a success with $50M BO result (because that’s 2x its budget? Go practice basic math, please.
    And don’t mix apples and oranges because here we are talking about money earned from film’s theatrical run, everything else like VOD/DVD/Blu-Ray is different category.
    Again, I go with the triple the budget rule (as many others do), you don’t. Agree to disagree (although, I don’t know how we can disagree about numbers but OK) and move on.

  • Anna

    Where did I mention her love life? It’s not my fault your mind went right there as soon I mentioned her *mannerisms*. Stop projecting on other people.

  • csm123

    Hidden Figures budget was too small so the ad spending dominated. For a movie like Underwater, the total budget will be $65 million prod. + $50-60 million ad spend so , yep, a $130-150 million worldwide box office will make it a financial success with ancillary revenues added.

  • csm123

    That’s when most Twihards like you lost your shit. Oh, Kristen dresses like a man with short hair and she is dating women. She is manly now when in reality it is your homophobia coming through. If it isn’t you wouldn’t have any problem explaining how she has more masculine mannerisms now than before.

  • Anna

    You forget that it’s not only the budget + promo costs, though.
    So, I’m sorry, but I’ll stick to Forbes and their expertize, just like so many other people do.
    You do you. But you are only getting further from proving your original thesis.

  • Anna

    LMAO !!!!!
    You don’t know how far way from the truth you are. As a matter of a fact, you probably couldn’t be further.
    Man, you really aren’t able to understand some things. Pity.

  • csm123

    Forbes is not the authority on movie business like the Trades. You can see the breakdown at Deadline.

  • csm123

    Let me know when you can explain how Kristen is more manly now than when she was dating that Twilight cuckold.

  • Anna

    “love you too honey.”

  • csm123

    That’s probably how Kristen would respond to you if she can read your comments. If it helps, the comment that she responded to could’ve been written by you.

  • Anna

    That’s where I got those numbers. And by those numbers, in case of Hidden Figures your 2x the budget rule doesn’t stand. Anything else?
    P.S. Forbes is about the money and the profit. Money in the movie industry is the same as money from any other industry. So yes, Forbes’ expertize is valid for film talk, as well. You are free to disagree (although, I’m not sure you know how).

  • Anna

    You already sad that before. And you were dead wrong then just as you are now. But you love being wrong so you can have it.
    And I don’t want to be rude so I’ll say it again — thanks for all the LOLs.

    You really do make feel god about my intellectual abilities. LMAO!

  • Guest

    I have complete confidence that they will again. Maybe next time in something Jesse (or Kristen) writes and/or directs.

  • Guest

    But that’s today. She could have something tomorrow in NY and not have wanted to fly from Europe to LA to NY in a span of two days. And CJ being there is not surprising to me at all. He’s basically Kristen’s shadow as of late, so he’s with Ruth a ton as well.

  • gillian kemp

    I understand what you are saying, but we don’t know just how deeply involved Kristen and Stella are. It is obvious they are dating, but it could still be a casual thing. They certainly spend a lot of time in each others company. That doesn’t mean she has gotten close to Ruth. Perhaps she just plain wasn’t invited. CJ has know Ruth for years. He has spent years around Ruth. So they must have developed a relationship. It’s the bride’s day. I can see no reason to suspect any deep meaning about Stella not being at the wedding.

  • gillian kemp

    I would love for Kristen to be directed by Jesse or even Kristen directing him.

  • Anna

    On Sunday? Hardly.
    I’m not surprised he’s there either. But him being there, among other people, is kinda proving that it’s not a small wedding (Ruth knows him but still, at the end, he’s just a friend of a friend).

  • Anna

    I know that. It’s just they *are* living together since Stella joined her in NOLA which is more than 1.5 months now. It can’t be *that* casual, right?
    It just doesn’t make sense to me but I get why other people may see things differently (we all have different experiences and understanding of what love relationships should be like).

  • Anna

    We are yet to see Jesse’s directional debut (that TV show) but, tbh, I hope it will be his writing. And someone else directing.

  • gillian kemp

    Maybe Kristen decided to have CJ as her guest. He certainly looks like a fun guy. Maybe it is a simple as Kristen wanting to be with CJ.

  • Anna

    Which is fine. But in that case, IMO, hers and Stella’s story won’t last long.
    Time will tell (and it’s not like I’m roting for a breakup, not at all).

  • gillian kemp

    I don’t see that as living together. Kristen is on location. She has not set up a home in NOLA, she is on location. Living together is totally different. Living together means combine two separate home and life as one. I bet CJ is staying in the same place as Kristen and Stella, but I would not say they are living together. As you said Stella is posting from her apartment. Perhaps Kristen and Stella are dating, but are not deeply in love. They could be casually dating. The amount of time they spend together, doesn’t mean they are deeply in love.

  • gillian kemp

    I guess I don’t see any meaning about Stella not being at the wedding. We don’t know and probably never will know why Stella wasn’t there. If I were in Stella’s place, I would not be insulted, if CJ went instead of me.

  • Anna

    Kristen is on location, yes, only she’s not in a hotel but in a private house. With her dogs. So it’s like a home away from home in a way. And she didn’t have to have Stella there every day (that never happened before with none of her past BFs/GFs) especially when Stella has an apartment in NYC which makes weekend only visits rather easy. But she did so it has to mean *something*, IMO.
    Anyway, if you are right, and you very well might be, her absence from the wedding seems to be proving your point. And it also means their thing probably won’t last much longer.
    But who the hell knows.

  • Anna

    Like I said, we see this whole situation quite differently. And that’s OK.

  • gillian kemp

    I hope I don’t seem argumentative or disagreeable. I just don’t see anything odd. Rob certainly visited Kristen on set. Perhaps Stella has more free time. People date casually. I don’t know Kristen, but I see her as transitioning. She is leaving behind the “girl” phase of her life. She seems to be moving into being an “adult”. I think it hit me at 22. I graduated college, then bought a home. I think I was transitioning for a few years.

    Kristen seems ready to move on to the next part of her life. Who would imagine Kristen doing SNL? She is moving into directing, talking about politics. Maybe she doesn’t what kind of man or woman she wants. It could explain Soko, followed by Stella. Kristen could be having a casual relationship, until she meets the right person.

    Now I am rambling.

  • Anna

    No, you are fine. We are having a nice discussion.
    Definitely possible. That what you just said.
    But everything you said also leads us, IMO, to conclusion that this thing between Stella and her isn’t going to last much longer. Which was kinda the point I was trying to make with my reply to that pic tweet.

    Anyway, as Guest said, this is Kristen we are talking about here — things can change with her from one day to another. Sometimes for the better, sometimes not.
    And now I’m rambling. LOL

  • MCR

    I’ve given up trying to categorize relationships of this kind. From my very conventional perspective, it seems as if their relationship is on the wane, but I don’t know how a young woman like Kristen sees her dating life or what she expects from it. She had two fairly long-term relationships followed by a quick succession of short ones. Were the short ones therefore failures, or did she intend them to be brief because she’s fed up with relationships, or what? Is not taking her partner to a wedding significant, or do they not even consider themselves partners? Who knows? Maybe it will end shortly; or maybe she and Stella will continue with this apparently casual thing for the next 20 years.

  • MCR

    I don’t think it’s really homophobia. It’s just an unconscious response to the clothing, the hair, the female partner, that makes a person “read” her mannerisms differently. She was always a tomboy, but because her image was conventionally feminine in the past, her manner was seen as just that: a girl who was a little bit tomboyish. In the light of new information, it comes across as masculine. I think that’s all there is to it.

  • Anna

    With some people it might have happened that way.
    I don’t belong to that group, though.
    If this same Kristen was to have long hear reaching her lower back right now I would still think the same. It’s about the posture, mannerisms, body language in general and that vibe and energy you are getting from someone – length of their hair can only increase or not that sensation but it can’t cause/create it (Zoe K. has the same haircut as Kristen now but I don’t think of her in the same way at all and I’m not talking about red carpet ready all dolled up Zoe either). Same goes in regard to the gender of person she’s dating — if this was spring 2014, when she was already living with Alicia, I would not think the same (she wasn’t acting any deferent then compared to when she was with Pattinson one year before that). She changed with time and that’s fine. It’s all that simple.
    Also, I always try to figure out why I think the way I think, to understand where it is all of that coming from, whether it’s all in my head or not so that unconscious response thing doesn’t apply to me unless you catch me off guard with some new event/change.

  • Guest

    As far as I know he’s gotten very good reviews for his writing and directing for theater.

  • Guest

    That would be cool.

  • Anna

    I know. But staging a play and directing for TV are not the same. I do believe he will be good, though. He couldn’t get that deal with Bad Robot otherwise.

  • Anna

    All of that stands except for the very last line — just recently she said in an interview that she craves constant change.

  • Guest

    Right. I’m looking forward to seeing it.

  • Anna

    If you want to get better idea of what I’m talking about, here’s the pic of Kristen from last night. Now be honest and tell me, if you didn’t know this was her what would you say: male or a female? I repeat, it’s not because of her buzzcut, it’s her *whole* body language (look at her shoulders, at the way she stands and is leaning on that ATM, her legs and hips position, ect.). And yes, you may take the way she’s wearing her clothes in consideration, as well. This is not the same Kristen as that one from say 2014 (who was a tomboy, of course, but nothing like she’s now).

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_Meq6yV0AAA3Lz.jpg

  • Anna
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    Leather jacket and glasses on her head — at a wedding . . . SMH! Sigh.

    OK, I’ll shut up.
    (And no, it was *not* a dress casual wedding, there are many pics of other guests and all ladies were wearing evening or cocktail dresses while men were in dark suits.)

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    (Is that a tiny band-aid on her eyebrow? It’s more visible in the first pic I posted.)

  • Anna

    @cjscissorhands
    Table 15. Congrats Ruth and Matt. (Not photographed but very much loved.) @ashleybenson @jilliandempsey @saraplanco @amitamalani

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BTyHzcvlPrU/

  • Anna

    (At this table everyone was dressed almost the same. LOL)

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  • Guest

    Don’t think so. Looks like the lighting. There are patches of white like that elsewhere, by her nose and on the girl two seats down.

  • Eme

    Table 15. Looking good!!

  • Eme

    Cute!!

  • MCR

    It’s possible you’re right; I don’t see it, but then, I don’t follow her off-duty pictures & videos very much. But it’s also true that she’s always been boyish in her mannerisms – she has even been mocked by detractors for years for being so “butch” and “unfeminine.” Maybe she’s gone from tomboyish to overtly masculine, but it’s a very fine line, especially when we’re depending on the occasional split-second image to define her manner.

  • Eme

    Awww. I was missing my miniKristens. Love, love, love!!!

  • Eme

    Late for this discussion but here’s another possibility for Stella’s absence. Given the kind of attention Kristen’s *relationsips* get, what if the absence was planned, i.e., Kristen’s way of not up staging (because *everything* Kristen does gets both negative & positive attention) one of her best friend’s most important moment/day. Just a thought because, in the end, we know nothing.

  • Anna

    I only posted that pic as illustration. It wasn’t what made my mind about her mannerisms because it all started to be this obvious last year (around the time she stopped wearing bra even during her public appearances).
    I know she’s been a tomboy right from the start (since she was a kid) and I don’t see anything wrong with that but it became far far more obvious as of lately. And you don’t need to follow her off-duty photos and such (just look at that final minute of SNL and its end credits, for example; it’s also there in her press junket interviews, ect.). But yeah, in those pap pics, when she’s fully relaxed and totally herself, is where it is clearest (how she walks, how she sits, how she smokes, ect.).

  • Anna

    IDK, I don’t think so. She wasn’t afraid of up staging newlyweds when she attended weddings with Pattinson back in a day. But who knows, this a different situation so maybe different rules apply.

  • Eme

    And, what if it’s as simple as – Stella declined the invite from Kristen. And Kristen was ok with that. Again, we know nothing.

  • Anna

    Declining an invitation like this one isn’t exactly a good sign, tbh.

    I know we know nothing. LOL
    I just stated my opinion but I’m open for all these different theories people are having. As always, this is us just a guessing game. One that is more subjective than those we have when discussing movies and her career. I’m fully aware of all of that.

  • gillian kemp

    So cute! Maureen needed a friendship with Val.

  • gillian kemp

    The cool table!!

  • Eme

    Oh, I know we’re just stating our opinions. I was just reminding myself more than anything. I guess I’d rather there be more discussions about her career, films & projects than her personal life. Just me stating my preference lol. (And it’s not like I haven’t generated those kinds of discussions here – those of her personal life – lol!).

  • Eme

    Yessss!!

  • Anna

    Well, yeah. Sorry about that. It’s just that every time she breaks up with someone and starts a new relationship (I’m *not* saying that is what’s happening right now as if it is some kind of a fact nor do I want it to become one) it gets out there, overshadows whatever else she has going on in her professional life and affects how people see her (a never ending cycle). I too am staying away from posting stuff about her love life (because there are things floating around that I never bring here) but I guess we can’t completely ignore it.
    And you have that long career related convo below (more like 3 convos in 1 discussion, LOL).

  • Anna

    Yup!

  • Stephanie

    Good morning everyone,
    I respect all opinions bring to this board. If I may, here is my thought, Stella’s absent at the wedding is no big deal, she may have had other plans, same goes with Kristen’s absent at Met Gala. I agree with Anna about Kristen’s appearance. I honestly don’t like it, whether you are at wedding or work, walking on the street….at least dress decently. Call me old fashion for a 26 years old, if you are a girl, then act as a girl, nothing wrong with a girl looking girly. We don’t know Kristen’s personal life, maybe she is now showing her real self as tomboy more than ever. At the end of the day, she doesn’t owe us her life. I just know I am a fan who likes to see her movie. Thank you and have a bless Sunday.

  • Anna

    Well yeah, wearing what looks like a sport bra and sweatpants at a wedding, no matter how cool you are, is a — no. Because it’s, the way I see it, kinda disrespectful. And while Ruth probably doesn’t mind it, her family, her husband and his family as well as other guests might. So sometimes thinking about others and not only about yourself and what’s comfortable for you is the only right thing to do (unless you want to look like a brat in people’s eyes). Sorry if I’m harsh, but that’s how I feel about this particular wedding outfit.

    As for her tomboyishness – it was always there, it’s only on a higher level now. *Nothing* wrong about that (as long as she wears bra during her talk shows and other similar appearances). It’s her style, it’s who she is and I respect it. But sometimes she needs to follow the rules and try to dress for occasion (this wedding being one of those “sometimes”).
    Anyway, I just don’t think pretending this change isn’t there and tiptoeing around it will do us much good.

  • Stephanie

    Totally agree. I only knew her recently (lol) perhaps 2 yrs +., ways later after Twilight….

  • Anna

    Well then you “met” her at her best tomboy self phase. LOL

  • Stephanie

    🙂 lol

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    Have a great Sunday, Stephanie!

  • Stephanie

    Thanks Anna. It’s always a pleasure talking to you and EME.

  • Anna
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    lol. It’s indeed my good Sunday.

  • Anna

    Yeah.

  • Eme

    Hey, sorry had to leave for a bit. Yeah, it’s unfortunate that her personal life overshadows her positive professional accomplishments sometimes (actually a lot lately, sigh). It is what it is.
    And, I did read the career convo below (or at least the posts I could read because I’ve blocked one of the people in the *discussion*) so there is that today. 😉

  • Anna

    Man! That must have been quite an odd read. LOL

  • Eme

    Hi Stephanie! Good to hear from you and hope all is well with you. Agree that we don’t know Kristen’s personal life and that maybe she could have upped her game regarding dress for the wedding. But, I will say that from her group and the table picture, she looks like she wasn’t the only one that was dressed *casual*.
    OT: I would have liked to have seen a full length picture of Ruth because I love looking at wedding dresses. Lol.

  • Anna

    (And it’s been *all* about her private life and nothing but that pretty much since last summer. Moviegoers do talk about her films from time to time but they are such a small group that it doesn’t register in bigger scheme of things. So, Kristen Stewart is now best known as gay celebrity. Everything that she said she hates she now is. And that will cost her. A lot. It already is. She and her team had a chance to, for the very first time in her career, shape this whole narrative but they never did that. Sigh.)

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    It was – LOL!!!

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    I gave my best. LOL!

  • Eme

    I said earlier in the year regarding Kristen’s career arc that this will be a significant year for her. We’ll see.

  • Eme

    Yes, you did! 😉

  • Eme

    Oh thank you, Anna. You’re the best CSI!!! What a romantic, lovely look. She looks gorgeous. And her husband looks handsome and Hot!!!

  • Anna

    Well, so far it looks like a dead year for her (yes, she’s working but we’ll see results of that work next year).
    Who knows whether Lizzie will premiere this year. If not, 2017 probably will end as a dead year too.
    (And no, I don’t have high hopes when it comes to Cannes.)

  • Eme

    Beautiful lace! Love the off shoulder look and the lace sleeves which is a nice departure from the standard strapless gown look! Do you know the designer, oh wise CSI!?

  • Anna

    You are welcome.
    And, it wasn’t me who did all the CSI work – believe it or not, Ruth has her own fan account on instagram (a bit strange because how can you be a fan of a publicist but OK) and they posted all these pics and many more.

    Ruth’s husband, Matt, is one very handsome guy.

  • Eme

    You mean for her short or for her upcoming projects (Lizzie, JT LeRoy, Underwater)?

  • Eme

    Yeah, but you did the work so in my book you get the credit, Ms. CSI.
    And, I like the name Matt, so her husband has a LOT going for him in my book!!! LOL!!! (I have a strong preference for dark haired men with eyes that could melt a glacier – JS!).

  • Anna

    That what I said about Cannes? I was talking about her short.
    As for Lizzie, our best hope is TIFF premiere but I’m not sure it will be there (if not, they’ll probably wait till Sundance next year).
    Underwater and JT LeRoy are both next year releases. Well, they should be.

  • Anna

    Not sure about his eyes, sorry. LOL
    (But I share your preference.)

  • Eme

    Her short isn’t in competition. Honestly, I wasn’t sure it would make it to Cannes so it’s a win for me in whatever way it is shown. I am hoping (probably uselessly) that she uses the time to network.

  • Eme

    😉

  • Anna

    Frankly, I’m a bit scared of backlash she might receive (it already started among some critics/bloggers on twitter — people who do like her — on the day of those announcements) because I don’t think Come Swim is good. So there are moments when I wish it didn’t get in, at least not as a part of that particular selection. I mean, if it wasn’t good enough for one of other 3 selections dedicated to short films only it didn’t have to be there at all. JMO (I know it’s unpopular one).
    Networking? Kristen? She doesn’t know how that is done, IMO.

  • Eme

    Yes, you do have a good point about the quality of Come Swim and possible backlash (trust that Jessica L. person will chime in there) and perhaps it would have been better if it didn’t get into Cannes. Idk. It’s just too difficult to predict what will happen.
    Yeah, like I said, hoping that she will network is probably wasted energy on my part. She doesn’t have to struggle financially so the *hunger* isn’t there to move mountains. Jmo.

  • Anna

    I feel Cannes will win with her there because of all the media attention that follows her while Kristen will, in the best case scenario, be in the same place career wise after the festival is over. So, basically, she won’t/can’t win. That’s why I don’t get why she wants to be a part of it in this way.
    Well, money doesn’t have to be the only thing worth fighting for. What about knowledge? By meeting with other far more experienced directors she could learn a lot. But she’s not ambitious, not even in that way. Sigh.

  • Stephanie

    Hi Eme, I am doing well. Thanks for asking. Agree. Yeah, casual from the whole table, but at least showing respect for the family. What is the need to show your bra? Anyway, that is not gonna to change her. In the lighter mood, how are you? How is the precious little one?

  • Eme

    It is a competitive business so seeking out and getting experienced directors to discuss their work and how they do it – well, let’s just say I don’t see very much generosity in the business. What I do see is when she is filming, from what she has said, she asks questions of the director and observes, so perhaps she is getting the knowledge she believes she needs to direct in that way. But I agree, the ambition has to be there.

  • Eme

    I agree about her *top*. Although, let’s at least give her credit for wearing the leather jacket over it, lol.
    I am doing well. My little one is getting so chubby because she likes her momma’s milk, lol. Love her to bits. And, I’m trying to give my other one, who is older by 2 and a half years, attention also, but she has an independent personality, so she graces me with attention when she is in the mood, lol. I take what I can get!! Thank you my lovely friend for asking. Have a relaxing and lovely rest of Sunday. So nice to talk to you again and having you back in California!

  • Anna

    Agree about that. But you can learn from those meetings. Maybe not about art of directing itself but she can observe how those already established directors network, how they approach producers and production and/or distribution companies, ect. because that too is big part of being director. If she wants to start making her own films she will *have to* learn some skills of a good manager (because directors are party that too). And she lacks that in particular.

  • Stephanie

    You are such a wonderful grandmother. I am sure the other one love you. Grandma’s love is the best.

  • Eme

    Agree. There’s a lot more to the business of directing that she will have to learn if she wants to get her films made. Maybe she already had a taste of that in doing her short – who knows?! Maybe she’ll learn by a *trial by fire* sort of way. You know, when crap hits the fan in the middle of directing a film and she has to pull out all the stops. Sometimes that’s the only way to learn something. Either way, I wish her the best always and I’ll be riding the Hope Train for her, as always.

  • Anna

    Yeah. But, if one can, it’s better for everyone to learn from other people’s experiences, both good and bad.
    I’ll be here rooting for that train to reach its final destination. As always.

  • Eme

    I absolutely agree!! And thank you for your kind words! I am having fun being a grandmother (never thought I would say that, lol!!).
    I’m hoping the stars will align so that you and I can meet each other someday. You sound like a wonderful 26 year old with an *old* soul (and I mean that in the very best way).

  • Eme

    Agree.
    And I know I have your support with my train riding. As always. 🙂

  • Stephanie

    Aww thanks dear. I was raised by a wonderful mom who thought me to be humble. My tear is coming down while talking about this. I’m missing her tremendously. When I talk to you it took me back to mom. My imagination is just a wish from the sky. Love you Eme.

  • Eme

    Aww, Stephanie. Sending you my best hug to you right now. Those memories come and, for me, when they do, it means that person’s spirit is reaching out to you. So, your wonderful mom is there with you right now, I believe.
    And, if it helps, I always feel like my mom side comes out whenever we talk here. Love you, Stephanie. Hugs.

  • Stephanie

    🙂

  • Eme

    I do agree that one has to be mindful of the situation always when deciding what to wear because one always needs to be respectful towards people and the situation. So, yeah, the bra top and sweatpants looking outfit was . . . not cool. Bbl.

  • Anna

    Don’t hate but sometimes it feels like she’s asking for those negative impressions of her that too many people usually have.

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    I’m so glad your little one is doing well !!!
    And the older one is the boss. LOL

  • Anna

    Sorry, just now saw your comment.

    Yes, that’s my favorite part of her wedding dress too.
    No, I don’t know who designed it. But If I find out I’ll let you know.

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    She is the Queen of everyone in her sphere Lol! That is until her younger sister starts walking & talking. Then her world will be rocked lol!!!!

  • Eme

    No worries. It’s not really important info, just curious.

  • Anna

    Or maybe the two of them unite their forces and then all of you grown ups will be in — trouble. LOL

  • Eme

    I don’t know that she’s actually asking for the negative impressions – I just think she is self-absorbed at times and the people around her don’t challenge her at all. I mean, she has a team that pretty much does her bidding and a circle of friends who do the same thing so ……………ykwim?!

  • Anna

    Yeah. Enablers.

  • Eme

    Uh oh. And I can see that happening lol!! Don’t think I’ll let her parents in on that possibility just yet! They have enough on their hands just adjusting to being parents of 2!! LOL!!

  • Eme

    In a word – yes. To Kristen’s detriment. Very unfortunate.

  • Anna

    (Plus, the fact her closest friends are stuck for years career wise. Well, frankly, none of them can say they have any kind of career. Those who did achieve something in their lives or have started their own families or about to, aren’t as close to her as they used to be. I wish she would spend more time with someone like Riley who has a healthy amount of ambition. Suzie, CJ, Gabby and the rest are probably all good people but they all, in one way or the other, depend on her and when that happens honesty about her mistakes tends to fly out of the window. And she’ll never improve as a person nor as a professional if she’s constantly the most successful one in the group. That actually has the opposite effect — she’ll stagnate in every way.)

  • Anna

    Like I said, she’s her own worst enemy. And she doesn’t have a family to make her see that. Maybe her dad is trying (he does seem like that kind of a guy) but it needs to be a constant pressure in her life, more people needs to insist on that, IMO.
    All said and done, I have a feeling she’ll figure it out but it will be much too late when that happens.

  • Anna

    They’ll catch up on that possibility — eventually. LOL

  • BrendaStar

    Thanks, Anna, for the wedding pics. Ruth makes a lovely bride and Matt a handsome groom. I love her gown. The dropped lace sleeves really make the top elegant. I like the cut of the small train too.

  • BrendaStar

    Do you know if Ruth’s friends is a member of the wedding party? Her dress is pretty

  • Anna

    She was one of the guests, yes.

  • Eme

    Yeah, she’s in a transitional phase in her life so I’m sure she’ll figure things out (she’s done a lot of figuring out in past 3 years). That’s what life is all about for all of us.

  • Anna

    Absolutely.
    I very well might be wrong (after all, I’m just a person looking outside in) but in these last few years she managed to actually dig herself deeper in regard of what we are discussing right now, instead of getting closer to finding her way out. You know that gut feeling I sometimes have? Well, it’s not good. Based on everything I’m seeing from her friends (which isn’t much and I’m very aware of that), nothing positive will come out of it all.

  • csm123

    You are already wrong about Kristen of you think she isn’t sufficiently ambitious. Kristen doesn’t lack ambition when you look at things she has been doing lately – directing films, becoming more involved in Hollywood backed political activism. Her friends’ ambitions are not the same thing as her ambitions. CJ is practically her assistant and you don’t judge an actress’ ambition based on the ambition of her assistant. That’s completely ridiculous. As I have said this before, the biggest issue for Twihards is that she is dating a woman. If she was more girly and dating an A-list actor nobody would’ve questioned her ambitions. It is her unconventionality you have issues with , not her ambitions.

  • Eme

    It does seem that she moves in a very small circle. I understand that she (and they) are loyal, long time friends, but more diverse experiences can be had when one exposes oneself to different and larger pool of people. And I mean in longer periods then the experiences she has working on projects.
    Kinda like the experiences one gets at university.

  • Anna

    Yup!
    And that small circle isn’t exactly made of successful people either.
    Like, for example, all these years (and especially after that defense article she wrote back in 2012) I though Kristen was keeping in touch with Jodie only to find out that they haven’t spoken to each other in couple of years. Jodie lives in LA, ffs! Who wants to bet she doesn’t talk as many times as she probably should/could with neither Julianne nor Juliette? Which is such a pity. She didn’t stay in touch with Jesse either after they were done with Adventureland promo (they met again for AU 4 years later). And so on and on.
    Of course we don’t know who she talks to or is friends with but I think it’s kinda obvious she’s complete outsider in more ways than one. And that’s not good.

  • Eme

    In terms of wanting to move forward as a director, she has worked with Kelly R. & has had contact with Todd Haynes. Those two have the kind of experience and wisdom that she could utilize. And hang out with Olivier & Julitte B.
    Oh well. Just me wishing her success.

  • Anna

    Each and every of those things you mentioned could have been done better (meaning, she together with her “team” could have been a bit smarter about it). End results are showing that. Don’t confuse ambition with “I like doing things in my own way, always, no matter what” attitude because the later might be caused by immaturity or fear and not only by bravery.
    As for CJ . . . she’s paying him, he doesn’t want to make his boss mad = that real friendship they had (which means complete honesty even about all those things one doesn’t want to hear about) is in danger. That how enablers are created. Anyone with a bit of real life experience can see and understand that.

    And, because like the old broken record that you are, you are back to your BS about Twihards —this is where I’m getting out of this convo.
    Bye!

  • csm123

    Each and everything in the World going on right now could’ve been better. What the fuck is that even supposed to mean ? If we are talking about ambitions then Kristen is ambitious. She hates wearing dresses but she has a contract with Chanel. Would an unambitious woman do that ? She is an actress in her mid 20s and serious about directing ? Directing/Producing is where the Hollywood power is and she knows that. That’s not an ambitious woman.

    Not again with that CJ and her friends bullshit. Twihards always hated Kristen’s friend because they were seen as getting between their epic Bella-Edward romance. There is absolutely nothing wrong with having normal people in your circle who can keep you grounded if you are a high-profile actress. If CJ or her other close friends were shady she would’ve got rid of them by now. What exactly is CJ enabling ?

  • Anna

    Yup!
    But she just doesn’t know how to network.
    Like, remember that story from Olivier’s recent interview (I think it’s Vulture one) in which he explains with few more details how he got to meet Kristen? He was talking with Pattinson at some hotel and she entered the room couple of times which made Olivier notice her. But they didn’t meet that day. Why couldn’t see approach him and say “Hi, I’m Kristen Stewart. It’s nice to meet you.” or whatever, exchange few usual pleasantries with him and then leave them to continue their conversation? How hard that could have been? She freaking missed the chance to meet great Olivier Assayas that day who was right there, in the same room as her with just one other person. I mean . . . enough said.
    But that’s her — passive when it comes to that kind of social interactions. She never uses opportunities to meet new important people, not even when she admires them. Like, she was a huge fan of Jenny Lewis for years and when she finally got a chance to meet her in person after some concert, she didn’t want to so the people she was with made her do it.
    Anyway, it is what it is.

  • Eme

    Well, to be fair, it wasn’t her meeting and, I guess she wasn’t introduced so I don’t know that I would have done anything different than she did in the OA example. And she is shy so there is that she has to contend with.

  • Eme

    Ok, since I, like Stephanie, missed that whole Twilight thing so I gotta ask. What the hell is a Twihard?

  • Anna

    Check Quinn Shephard.
    She’s 22 now but she was 20 when she wrote + produced + directed + starred in + edited her feature film debut which premiered week or two ago at Tribeca Film Festival receiving solid reactions.
    Why I’m mentioning her? Because you need to realize that there are other people out there who are doing stuff better than Kristen is.
    I have *no problem what’s so ever* acknowledging every single one of Kristen’s successes but I don’t think the’s the best at everything. I have impression you do.

    And I’m REALLY done with you — as of now you are blocked (your Twihard BS is becoming too boring) so I’m not seeing any of your posts any more.

  • gillian kemp

    I wouldn’t want Kristen to base her friendships, on who could be most useful to her. Jodie is old enough to be her mom. Maybe that working relationship did not translate into a friendship. I could see them being friends now, but not ten years ago. I know I have seen pictures of them together during the Twilight years. (Jodie seemed to be beaming with parental pride). And that could be the problem. Jodie made it to the top and Kristen made it to the top. And Jules probably never will. It is possible Kristen doesn’t want to hurt her mother, by turning to Jodie. I has mentioned her mom as someone she admires.

  • Anna

    Huge fans of everything Twilight related (read: obsessed with it) which means they also were huge Robsten shippers and even bigger haters of everything they considered to be an obstacle for the happily ever after Kristen and Pattinson were meant to achieve. Something like that.

  • gillian kemp

    Maybe not going up to him was the right thing to do. Kristen has worked with him twice and Rob hasn’t. It may have been rude to walk into someone else’s meeting. If Rob wanted to introduce her he would have.

  • Eme

    No, sorry, I’m not saying she base her friendships on what they can do for her. I’m strictly talking about opening herself up to new & different experiences and maybe lead to more projects in some way. She doesn’t need to change her close circle of friends.

  • csm123

    Are you a moron ? I am talking about ambition not success. Unambitious 27 year old successful millionaire actresses don’t work hard at becoming a director. They are too busy partying and living it up. The fact that Kristen is working hard at becoming a director and becoming a more responsible citizen by supporting important issues is to be applauded and not derided solely on how she dresses. Kristen is not a straight girl which makes her an absolute outlier in her age group and she will have to forge her own path just like Ellen Degeneres and that’s what she is doing.

  • Eme

    I agree.

  • Anna

    Meeting happened in their room, as far as I understood Olivier. I never said she should have “steal” the meeting from Pattinson, she could have just said Hello! and move on with her business and all that. I don’t think he would have minded that at all. (As for Pattinson not introducing them . . . I don’t want to go there because if I do . . . just no.)

  • Eme

    And I’m not saying she would have stolen the meeting. I just think it’s her nature to be shy so I can totally see why she didn’t go up and say hi. That just doesn’t sound like something she does naturally.
    And, in the end, it worked out for both of them big time! 🙂

  • gillian kemp

    I love that people come up to her offering their help and support, people like Patti Smith. And we only know about the people, who make a point of pointing it out. I don’t know if she follows up, but there are people on her side. Look at Drake D. encouraging her poetry. I personally wish she had take a few college courses or a few writing courses.

  • Eme

    Oh good lord!!!! Thanks for your answer, Anna.

  • gillian kemp

    I have never her of Quinn Shephard, she sounds impressive. Maybe she is just a natural at writing and directing. I hope Kristen has some natural talent and she gets a chance to direct.

  • Eme

    She does have supportive people & honestly we don’t know how much she stays in contact with people. Patti Smith is someone I would love to see her hang out with – the woman is a force of nature & creativity.
    And, yes, I would love if she took some college writing courses for the knowledge & experiences that go with them.

  • Anna

    That was her lucky star doing its job. If it weren’t for Charles she would never be in CoSM and so on.
    My point is, you can’t know what future holds so when an opportunity like that one arises — use it!
    (As for Pattinson not working with Olivier . . . lets be fair, it was not his fault Idols Eye got canceled. Same thing happened with TBS – financing falls apart every day in Hollywood. Also, notice this: those meetings he had with Assays resulted in him getting the lead role in Olivier’s film while result of few very brief convos Kristen had with him was offering of Chloe’s role from CoSM to Kristen which would be like Kristen Stewart is literally playing herself in a movie just under different name kind of thing. Anyway, it’s all water under the bridge now but you can’t tell me that letting people to get to know her beyond her public persona, which Olivier never got to do before making that offer, isn’t a good thing.)

  • Anna

    I understand your point.
    It’s just that, she’s is part of *very* competitive industry. Period. She can’t keep using shyness as an excuse for — things. It’s not like that meeting was happening in a room full of people.

    Yes, it worked out great at the end. But by sheer luck, IMO.

  • Anna

    What do I think I’m calling it BS when csm tries to pin it on me? SMH

  • Eme

    Yes, I agree.

  • Eme

    Yup!! LOL!!!

  • Anna

    IDK, it’s possible.
    But when her own mother keeps messing up with her interviews (and she did it back in 2012, of all years, too during promo of that movie she directed) while Jodie is the one writing a defense piece and having her back in heart of that scandal, I think the least she could have done is kept in touch with her (a phone call from time to time would have been enough). IDK, that’s how I’m seeing that particular situation. I might be wrong.

  • Anna

    Exactly that !!!

  • Anna

    Completely agree with you re that college thing.
    There’s so many options now, so many courses and different ways to finish them. She could really do it if she really wants to.

  • gillian kemp

    What I am trying to say is Kristen could have distance herself from Jodie, because of her mother. Her mother is in the business, and will probably never reach Jodie’s or Kristen’s level. I know Jules mentioned it in an interview. Perhaps Kristen is trying to be sensitive to her mother.

  • Anna

    And what I’m trying to say is that, Jules isn’t/wasn’t that considerate – at least not in her interviews. Also, Jodie did wrote that article and was literally *the only one* in Hollywood to publicly stand on Kristen’s side when everyone else was trying to get a piece of her.

  • Eme

    Hmmm, I can see that. Particularly since one of Kristen’s fondest memories working for Jodie was when she gave Kristen a birthday party on set. As a mother myself I can see that might have upset Jules a bit. Especially since Kristen recently mentioned that her mom became a stage mom after Kristen began getting booked in films.

  • Eme

    And I will forever have the deepest respect for Jodie because of her actions and support for Kristen.

  • Anna

    Same! I’ll never forget that.

  • Anna

    Jules was there during that bday party. Jodie didn’t do it without consulting her nor anything like that.

  • Eme

    Oh, I didn’t think Jodie did it without Jules support. But, come on, would you be able to say no to Jodie Foster? Even if there’s a smidgen of jealousy inside?
    I do think Kristen thinks of her mom. Wish her mom would do the same for Kristen. And, I’ll quit now while I’m ahead lol.

  • Anna

    Probably not. But as an adult, she should have kept her jealousy and any other issue she might have had to herself and not burden Kristen with it, not that day nor later on in her life. IDK, I’m probably being too harsh on Jules but I can’t help it. And I see you kwim judging by your last paragraph so yeah, lets stop while we can.

  • Anna

    (P.S. It’s time to cut the cord, don’t you think? She’s 27 now. If you kwim?)

  • Eme

    Yup. Enough said (not really because I want to say a lot more but . . . no.).

  • Anna

    I get you. Nothing pleasant about that conversation.
    We’re done with it 🙂

  • Anna

    Eme, here’s somewhat clearer look of Ruth’s wedding dress (and of the groom as well, LOL).

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BTzrYb3F8Uu/?taken-by=ruthbernsteinfans

    (It’s more pics in one so click on the “next” arrow.)

  • Anna

    Oliver’s new interview for Chinese newspapers, South China Morning post.

    https://twitter.com/Had2BKristen/status/861384967712059392

  • Anna

    “I think the collaboration with Kristen has been extremely inspiring for me,” says the 62-year-old art-house director. “I think it’s the way we function together. Kristen inspires me to go in different directions and function in slightly different ways; I suppose I also give her space she doesn’t really have in her other movies.”

    “I’ve been lucky to be the one filmmaker who was able to say to Kristen, ‘It’s okay to be yourself in the film. You don’t have to pretend you’re some other character. It’s a movie that tries to capture something of real life. So I’m not interested in your market value, I’m not interested in your fame. I’m interested in you as a person.’

    “It’s a way to present Kristen stripped of that layer of celebrity and to allow the viewer to see her as she is, as a person, and somehow to be closer to her,” he says.

  • Eme

    Ah well. It’s a complicated thing no matter what age you are. Sometimes you need outside help to do that – putting distance between the expectations of each other and the reality of the relationship. Js.

  • Anna

    “I’ve been very privileged in the sense of working with great actresses,” says the director.
    “Usually, after two movies, we ended up becoming friends; we don’t necessarily have to work again because we’ve already covered a lot of ground. With Kristen it’s a bit different: we’re not exactly friends. We very dearly love each other, but it’s not like we hang out together. We’re from very different generations, and we live in two cities that are very far apart. But something happened when we’re together on the set. So now, I really do want to make another movie with Kristen.”

  • Eme

    Ah, leave it to Olivier to sum up what we all were trying to say in our convo below.

  • Eme

    Still want them to hang out together, is. Outside of the set they could both learn from each other.

  • Anna

    Agree. Not easy at all!
    The only reason I said that is because — where does it ends? And what’s next (mother not liking her GF?)? Kwim? There comes a time when ones needs to realize that not having total approval of your parents for every single decision you make in life doesn’t have to be a bad thing. One has to learn to put limits to that influence.

  • Guest

    👌🤞🙏

  • Guest

    She looks beautiful.

  • Anna

    Same. But as long as both of them (+ Mia) are comfortable with that.
    If not, lets hope they’ll keep going back to working together over and over again.

  • Eme

    Beautiful dress & ceremony. I love the Jewish wedding ceremony. Thanks for this Anna!

  • Anna

    Yup!
    But not overdone (for example, her hair). Which I really like.
    And what’s even more important, she looked very happy. It seems she actually really did enjoy her wedding.

  • Anna

    I knew you will appreciate it ;P

    You are welcome!

  • Eme

    Oh, I believe there’s at least a third film in both of them!

  • Anna

    Yup!
    Meeting creative and smart people from very different walks of life can do that to you.

  • Eme

    Absolutely!!

  • Anna

    With Debra Winger in it? LOL

  • Eme

    Totally agree.

  • Eme

    Yessss!! And Anthony Hopkins, lol!!

  • Anna

    Oh, I think we might be onto something here.
    We should start working as casting directors. LOL

  • Eme

    We all already are on this board lol!!!

  • Anna

    Yeah, you are right.
    But hey, go big or go home. LOL

  • Eme

    That’s what I say!!!

  • Anna

    OT

    This is a book example of how important having a strong attitude is. She’s completely bald but I don’t think many will care.

    https://twitter.com/Mel452/status/861378679460450304

  • Eme

    She looks fierce. I loved Kristen’s N.Y. PS premiere look which also was completely badass to me!

  • Anna

    Sorry, did you really mean PS (pink-ish silk tracksuit) or maybe CW (red suit) premiere look?

  • Anna

    Scratch my question below !!!
    Instead of NYC I read NYFF. LOL

    Agree. I liked that dress.

  • Eme

    Lol!!

  • Anna
  • Eme

    YESSSSSS!!!!!!

  • Eme

    And that is one of my all time favorite pics of Kristen.

  • Anna

    (Somewhere down below in one of those convos Eme and I had, I said I have impression that, in some ways, Kristen’s digging herself deeper into immaturity. Pics like this one are reminder of it.)

    https://twitter.com/KStewartBR/status/861444829934493696

  • Eme

    Hmmm. This is coming from *that* fan site if I got that right. Well, consider the source, I guess.

  • Anna

    (Also, having pics like that one being posted on instagrams with millions of followers, some of them being big media publications and influential people, that then will be shared for few more millions of times isn’t helping her public image — at all! It’s the opposite. I swear, like I said below, sometimes it looks like she’s asking for that negativity.)

  • Anna

    Yes, that’s the fansite. But it’s run by more people than one.
    They aren’t the source of that pic, Lily’s instagram is. In this, they have zero blame.

  • Anna

    (I mean, millions of people who follow those accounts like Lily’s don’t have exactly the best impression of her to begin with. Where Kristen’s need to reinforce it over and over again is coming from I’ll never understand. Instead of trying to fix/improve things, whenever she gets a chance, she seems to be hell bent to show them all that she’s maybe even worse than they originally thought. If that isn’t immaturity masked into “edginess” I don’t know what is. This girl needs someone who will have more than a few *very* serious talks with her. She’s surrounded by enablers right now. What a pity. No bigger sorrow than seeing big talent/potential being wasted.)

  • Anna

    (Simply said: when you are aware that *all* that big majority of people gets to see about/from/of you aren’t your films but pap and pics like that one and you *still* can’t find it in you to make things easier for yourself by dropping the middle finger salute or gestures like that one above, no one else will respect you either. She’s *helping* the media to cultivate all that negativity aimed against her. Self-destructiveness at its very best right there. Sigh.)

  • csm123

    Kristen’s image is fine and as good as it has ever been but thanks for your concern.

  • Guest
  • Toooten

    Well, no it’s not – Kristen acting out like this isn’t good for her public image, she’s not a teen star icon like Miley Cyrus any more, and she’s dependent of the good will from the powers in command, and they don’t like this kind of attitude.

    — It’s okay she’s a tomboy and bi-sexual, but she don’t need to slap it into people’s face all the time.

  • Anna

    I’ll read it and sum it up for you if there’s anything truly new. Just give me 1 hour or so because I have to finish something else before that.

  • Anna

    Exactly.

    Plus, acting like that has nothing to do with her sexuality nor her style — it’s simply very immature and . . . ugly. And the biggest problem is that, she’s been doing it on red carpets, as well. I mean, this ˇˇˇ will never be OK/edgy/cute/funny. It’s stupid. She needs a bit of reality check, IMO.

    https://www.skinnyvscurvy.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/3E10024200000578-4292342-image-m-2_1488955856365-600×400.jpg

  • Anna

    (I got that pic from a magazine, that isn’t a tabloid. Think about it a little.)

    For what is worth, there’s not one person on my time line who thinks posing with your finger and tongue out is cute. Not one. And I’m talking about her fans, people who need to be *really* disappointed by her behavior to call her out on it. And everyone is saying the same: “what might have been cute at 16 is immature at 27 — grow the f**k up”.
    Do you think non-fans are being that mild and reserved in their critique?
    (This site, this comment section even with all my rants and “negativity”, as you call it, is a safe heaven, a bubble compared to what’s out there in real world when it comes to opinions re Kristen. Don’t forget that, please.)

  • CJ

    Stella left NOLA last Sunday after spending all her free time with Kristen. She arrived in NY on Sunday, went to Met Gala on Monday, didn’t attend ANY after party, had a shoot for Victoria Secrets on Tuesday (it started early in the morning), traveled to Milan on Wednesday. Had 2 days shooting for Versace and traveled back to NY on Friday. To go to the wedding she would have to travel from there to LA on Saturday and then to Santa Ynez (3.5 hours driving from LA). Then, go to the wedding and next day goes back to NOLA. Why not arrive in NY (her home is there), rest for 1 day and then join your gf in NOLA on Sunday? I see ZERO problem in doing that. And, as Guest said below, maybe she wasn’t invited. Most people there didn’t have a date. It was Tamra’s gf bday and she (her gf) wasn’t in the wedding. Tamra left the wedding and joined her gf later in LA.

  • Eme

    This is one of the faces that she does on the RC that I don’t like. And, it’s the non smiling (which I don’t care about but just points to media picking the pics that promote their narrative about her) and the ugly face ones that always get picked up by the not so friendly mags and tabloids. This is not *edgy* or *badass* – it’s just weird and ugly. And, like the pic above, I wish she would stop this behavior. And, before anyone gets on their high fan horse, I’m her fan so I get to dislike behaviors that I believe are unhelpful to her and call her on them. Rant over.

  • Anna

    Eme, you OK? Because, um, you sound like me. LOL
    (Now seriously, speak up whenever you want. Others will have to learn to deal. BTW, ditto re your comment.)

  • Eme

    Honestly, I saw the Lily E. pic above before I turned in for the night I had to think about what I wanted to say before posting. And then you posted the above pic, and it’s a face she does on the RC that I so dislike. She’s a very beautiful woman and I just don’t see why she feels the need to make herself look ugly on the RC. Especially when she is *on the job* and promoting her projects which I know she cares about, but when she does these things, what she is promoting becomes a sideline.
    Idk. In some ways, I wish her fan sites would not post pics like the Lily E. one because it allows non fans and haters to continue to believe their negative views of her. But, it’s the age of social media. And Kristen, of all people, knows that. So, there is that.

  • Anna

    Agree.
    (And you are being very mild in your reaction. I mean, just look at my 3 part rant below. LOL)

    That about fansites . . . here’s how I see it: a) we can’t live in a bubble and b) that fansite has 75K followers on twitter, Lily’s instagram, where that photo is from, has 5M followers (and add Stella’s 2.7M followers to that) so it doesn’t matter if fans post it or not, our “size” is like a drop of water compared to a large sea. Kwim?

  • Eme

    Yeah. Sigh.

  • Guest

    Thanks.

  • Anna

    (Some interesting quotes in that Italian article above, especially in regard of what we have been talking about these last two days, that I’m now translating but it’s *killing* me because I can barely see those words. My eyes hurt! But I’ll finish that darn thing! LOL)

  • Anna

    I’m half way done. So . . . a bit more patience.

  • Eme

    Thank you, Anna. Ah, the pain you go through for this board! Much appreciated. Really. Bbl.

  • Anna

    OK, I tried to read that thing, like tried REALLY hard, but the scan is too blurry to be able to read every word. But I did get majority of it.

    Article starts with ascertainment that she’s been dating men and is now dating women (latest being VS Angel Stella), that she will work only on projects that will interest her like PS, that’s she’s now out there with her shaved bleached head/hair: “It’s very easy/convenient: I just need a minute and I’m ready.” she responds touching her hair. They say she got that new haircut for her role in this new film “Waterworld” [they mean Underwater but they probably couldn’t be bothered with checking its correct title]. That would be the end of their intro. Now questions.
    1. They asked her whether she feels weird with this buzzcut seeing how many times during her career she had to change her hairstyle. She said that, based on her experience, everyone she knows wanted to, sooner or later, chop off their hair and get the haircut she now has. “It’s kinda like a revolution of sorts even if it’s *only* the hair. In order to grow up, one needs a change, needs to get out of one’s comfort zone even if it’s just by leaving that safety that one’s [physical] look can give to people. If you are artist, and ultimately a strong woman, you must confront yourself to prove/find out what moves/drives you.”
    2. “You are not that shy and romantic girl from Twilight?” to which she answered that back then she was just a young girl and thus she was easily conditioned by other people. “Now I’m a grown up, I know what I want. But I am a shy person and that will remain.” she added that so many times people took her for unsympathetic/unpleasant person only because she was embarrassed to accept all the attention thrown at her and she didn’t know how to handle it.
    3. “Do you have any regrets?” and she answers as if that question was related to Twilight saying that one part of her is always going to be that young Bella from Twilight but the other part has become a woman. “Now I want to grow and that’s why I’m dedicated to directing [they mention that Come Swim was at Sundance] and to controversial and complicated people.”
    4. “Have you ever been afraid to discuss your sexuality?” [Can’t read every word but she says she wasn’t and that she always acts based on her feelings regardless of one’s gender, religion or any other thing causing discrimination, something like that.]
    5. She was asked whether she likes fashion because in PS she’s buying those stuff for a celebrity and she said when she was a kid she used to be more tomboyish but fashion won her over and it gives her courage and safety [probably self-confidence], marks [is sign of] her independence. “I love a lot Karl Lagerfeld and Chanel; I find them stimulative and provocative. They offer me endless ideas to develop my personality, to dare to be androgynous , to show with a dress, with pair of shoes, with some other accessory who I really am.”
    6. They asked if she believes in ghosts because she has to deal with one in PS to which she said she had learned that in this life anything is possible, that she thinks that there is a spiritual universe people enter via their mind like when they pray. “There are inexplicable situations. But also things like love, passion, sadness are there to be demonstrated and that’s it: they are indescribable.”
    7. “In your short [film] a man suffers so much because of love that he almost drowns…” and Kristen said “I’m obsessed with emotions: I suffered because of love or because of friendship or because of people who disappointed me. I was interested in analyzing how much pain one can withstand, what are things that lead to torment.”
    8. “You are one of those who follow your passions?” and her answer was “I follow that animalistic instinct in me. Even if you suffer later, it’s worth the risk. I followed it all this years and I’m great [as in, feeling great].”

  • Anna

    (Sorry it took me this long but that #4 was a torture and I still couldn’t read those words, not even after half hour of trying. LOL)

  • Anna
  • Anna

    (One more thing and then I’m done, hopefully: that pic is also a good example of her selfishness or how self-centered she is because why ruin a pic for those two other people like that? Those girls didn’t mean it to be a “fun” pic judging by their poses. She also does that in some of her fan pics when all those people want is a nice photo with her. Deeply immature.)

  • Anna

    Well, you *are* mild compared to me. But I guess, everyone here is. Damn this bluntness of mine, right?
    And trust me, *everyone* is sick and tired of that behavior. Only, for too many people it didn’t stop there, if ykwim.

  • Anna

    You are welcome 🙂
    Bye!

  • Anna

    Aaannnddd . . . now tabs are picking up that pic with Stella and Lily.

    Great job, Kristen. People have no idea about your good films or awards or directing or fashion campaigns or charity causes you are supporting but they sure know how your tongue looks like. Well done!
    (Will someone please have a real talk with her, one of those serious talks about decisions and consequences? Please? Just because you can survive them it doesn’t mean you should do it.)

  • OG Guest

    Thank you.

    (Also since we seem to have a new poster going by Guest, I will change my name to OG Guest).

  • Anna

    You are welcome.

    Huh? Where did you see that new Guest’s posts? What am I not seeing here (aside from csm’s comments whom I have blocked)?

  • OG Guest

    Oh I just realized I’m wrong, I forgot that I wrote “thanks” earlier and thought someone else was replying to your translation but it was my post. It’s Monday, I guess. 😕 I will just keep it anyway because I think I did see a different Guest the other day.

  • Anna

    Oh, OK. Gotcha.

  • MCR

    I’m inclined to say what thousands kept saying to Miley Cyrus: PLEASE stop sticking your tongue out!!

  • Anna

    P.S. Even those parts of answers that I didn’t translate as direct quotes are still 80% Kristen’s words but I didn’t translate every single one (for them to be full quotes).

  • MCR

    Just possibly it’s connected to her being shy and disliking public attention. I’m serious. Some people I know who are very shy and hate to be photographed react by making faces at the camera. Not that she shouldn’t cut it out.

  • MCR

    Thanks.

  • Anna

    Well, for one Miley wasn’t 27 when she did that whole wild vulgar girl thing (she was 22 or 23, I think) and she’s not an actress who is trying to be taken seriously but a musician (they are held to different, quite lower, standards). Also, she was good girl gone bad (so everyone was like “it’s just a phase, it’ll pass”) while with Kristen it’s like a bad girl showing people she’s even worse (it’s more like “see, I told ya she was bad”).

  • Anna

    You are welcome.

  • Anna

    IDK, MCR. I mean, she wasn’t making those faces in the past during Twilight years when her anxiety, per her own words, was all time high and pressure was 100x bigger than the one she’s now facing.
    BTW, it’s more than simple ugly faces, it’s double middle finger salute at places like Cannes (!) red carpet, sticking her tongue out like when she was promoting *her own* (because, if you can’t behave for your own good how will you do it for someone else’s) directorial debut at Sundance this January, ect. I’m sorry but shyness can’t be excuse for all of that (and it doesn’t even make sense, either — those action only attract more attention, they don’t defuse it).

  • MCR

    I wouldn’t say they made sense; just that some people react to anxiety in odd ways. The only other explanation I can think of is that a lot of people on her social media do this kind of thing, so she sees it normal, lighthearted camera stuff. But you’re right, she should still know better, especially when she’s promoting something she cares about.

  • Eme

    I hate taking pictures and I know other people who do also. I’m not a celebrity/famous/whatever so I don’t have to worry about my *public* persona, lol. But, I do respect the situation and the people who want to record the moment, so I go along with it. It’s about being conscious and considerate of other people and the situation. When she is on the RC, she is promoting not only her project but the efforts of everyone involved – if a film – the cast, the director, producers, financial backers, crew, etc. There has to be a level of respect for all that and, whether she is shy or not, she needs to step out of her self-absorbed self, and be the professional we know she can be on the RC.

  • Eme

    Thank you, Anna for this. Appreciate all the effort and work. Sigh to #8 quotes.

  • Anna

    You are welcome.

    Also, if you pay attention, case Soko is explained under #3.

  • Anna

    She’s headed in the opposite direction, I’m afraid. Everyone around her telling her how cool she is, how great she is, how this or that she is. It’s funny how, back then when all the media hated her, her behavior was so much better — it’s almost as if they served as her corrective mechanism. Kwim?

  • Eme

    Hmmm. *Controversial* maybe. *Complicated*? Not in my book. Rebound and Impulsive – yep.

  • Anna

    IDK. I think Soko is also complicated (lots of unresolved *issues* with that one).
    Agree about the rest.

  • Eme

    Yes. Unfortunately I do. And, I’ll stop now because my training is kicking in and I want to say so much more as I analyze all this in my head but . . . no.

  • Eme

    And that’s why I don’t see her as controversial – we all *see* the unresolved *issues*, so her behavior isn’t *controversial* in the way I define and experience it. Jmo.

  • Anna

    (Man, what I wouldn’t give to hear your thoughts! Because, mine are just common sense and instinct based with touch of very basic psychology. But, don’t worry, I won’t ask you to post them. Not the time nor the place.)

  • Eme

    And, my last line from the former post was my explanation for the reason behind case Soko for Kristen. Just wanted to make that clear if it wasn’t, lol.

  • Anna

    We are talking about Soko here right? (It’s sad that now I have to ask, isn’t it?)
    I see your point. But, for example, doing a whole concert topless is controversial, no matter how you look at it.

  • Eme

    No, and it wouldn’t be fair because I’m only analyzing from second hand observations and not from first hand knowledge of Kristen based on face to face interviews with her (and I don’t mean the kind of interviews she does for the media).

  • Anna

    Yup!
    (We just see that things might be headed in the very wrong direction, but the why, when, how — those we’ll probably never know. And maybe that’s for the best.)

  • Eme

    Lol. Yes, we are talking about Soko. I clarified where I was talking about Kristen below. I guess topless concert is controversial.

  • gillian kemp

    I have no idea why I’m commenting on this topic. It’s a picture. If the person posting the picture was upset or angry about Kristen’s pose….. real simple solution…take another. We have no idea how many were taken, but this was the one posted. Why assume the picture was ruined. Sure it’s a silly pose, but why assume the photographer was upset?

  • Anna

    It’s not silly, more like ugly (and kinda vulgar).
    You are right, I don’t know if Lily (because she posted it) was mad at Kristen. Probably not because, after all, that pic got her some attention (not saying that’s what she wanted but, regardless of that, the pic got it). I guess I went by reactions of some of those fans who got similar pic with Kristen acting out when all they wanted was simply a normal one (they weren’t happy at all, from what I know). And I’m not talking about those intruding people who are greeted with middle finger salute while trying to get not so sneaky pic of her (understandable gesture but still a very unnecessary one).
    Long story short: even though that particular pic maybe isn’t the best example, my point behind that post still stands — she needs to have much more awareness of how her actions affect others even when they seem harmless/irrelevant to her.

  • gillian kemp

    It’s the “acting out” assumption I question. We don’t know how they were suppose to pose. It is so simple to delete a picture. Or simple say “We are going for sexy or serious”. I don’t like the pose, but any picture of Kristen would have gotten a reaction. No reason to assume this one would get a bigger one.

  • Anna

    That “acting out” was more of a reference to that *and* many other pics we got in last year or so (from fans, red carpets, after parties, fashion events, ect.) because it’s not one time occurrence and it wasn’t something she used to do — thus acting out label.
    Well, see, negative stuff about Kristen always gets more attention than something positive. That’s why that pic above is in tabloids and not some of Adir’s or Jilian’s or Ken’s instagram pics. With Kristen, negativity is what sells.

  • Anna
  • Anna

    Final weekend BO numbers:
    PS — $5,924 (from 7 theaters, PTA: $846) for new domestic total of $1,277,411.

    https://twitter.com/boxofficemojo/status/861678589682384896

  • Anna

    (It totally could have passed the $1.3M mark but no, IFC had to mess it up. Again! Ugh!)

  • Stephanie

    Thanks, Anna, so much for your time and hard work.

  • Anna

    You are welcome.

  • csm123

    Yeah sure. Keep pretending that this meltdown is about Kristen’s pose when it is about the woman standing next to Lily Aldridge. lol

  • Anna
  • Toooten

    I know, but still she did it, and a lot of young girls loved her for it – apparently she was “bad a**” – but Kristen isn’t a girl any more. At 27, she’s a full grown adult woman now, and should start to take her future and her appearance in the public eye a bit more serious. I would hate to see her ending up like a Lindsay Lohan kind of type – apparently Lindsay still thinks she’s a teenager.

  • Anna

    New Come Swim stills from official Cannes Film Festival site ( http://www.festival-cannes.com/fr/films/come-swim# ):

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_Yodv4XUAAqQfk.jpg

  • Anna
  • MCR

    Nice that she has the gig, but that makeup is kind of ghoulish IMO.

  • BrendaStar

    I don’t know about makeup trends. Maybe ghoulish is in. I have noticed women wearing very pale shades of lipstick.

  • CJ

    Kristen is the face of the New Gabrielle Chanel perfume! https://twitter.com/VogueParis/status/862248622985027584

  • CJ

    “The actress will appear in September in the film campaign for the scent that was shot by director Ringan Ledwidge. The print ad was lensed by Karim Sadli.” http://wwd.com/fashion-news/fashion-scoops/kristen-stewart-face-gabrielle-chanel-perfume-10884587/

  • CJ

    “Ringan then went on to direct hugely popular commercials for Lynx, Adidas, Nike, the COI and Coke, picking up awards at D&AD, British Arrows and Cannes. In 2005, production began on his first feature Gone, through Working Title and Universal.

    On returning to the world of commercials, Ringan joined forces with director Daniel Kleinman and Rattling Stick was born in May 2006. Here Ringan has directed campaigns for Sainsbury’s, Britvic, Hovis, John Lewis, Puma, Axe, Barnardo’s and The Guardian to name a few, and has received further awards at British Arrows, D&AD and Cannes including the coveted Grand Prix.”

    http://www.rattlingstick.com/directors/ringan-ledwidge/

  • OG Guest

    Great news.

  • Anna

    Excellent!
    And finally!
    This means she will be appearing in that campaign with her buzzcut? That will definitely be different.
    (Keira N. filmed her own fragrance campaign last week, I think.)

  • Anna

    (Glad I was wrong about this one. Now, if it could turn out that I was/am wrong about other stuff, too, that would be more than appreciated universe. LOL).

  • Anna

    Here’s that article in English. They say she already shot that campaign.

    https://twitter.com/VogueParis/status/862279814455152640

  • Anna

    If they did it before she got her buzzcut, maybe that was the reason why Kristen had to ask Chanel for approval/permission to shave her head.

  • Anna

    And remember that article about Hollywood’s top 100 lawyers? In writeup about Kristen’s lawyer it was said he earned his place on the list because he negotiated Chanel branding deal (and Underwater) for her. At the time, I thought they were talking about her full Chanel deal (signed back in 2013 and probably re-negotiated sometime over the years) but what if what they meant was Kristen’s new contract: this fragrance thing?

  • Eme

    Yay!!! Wonderful news to wake up to!! Thank you, CJ, for this!!

  • Eme

    Whoa! Major directorial talent behind her commercial! Hope she gets to work with him on a film also!!

  • Eme

    Hope Train riding!!! Js, Anna!!!

  • Eme

    That would be my guess, also to this and your post below. Let’s hope he negotiates/is negotiating more lucrative deals for her and we get to hear about them soon!!

  • Anna

    Anything is possible.
    I mean, Underwater aside, all of her Kristen’s films are small (CS had that $30M budget, for example, but Woody is known for not paying his actors much money) so I think Kristen’s paycheck is mostly coming from Chanel these days.

  • Eme

    Lol, MCR. Yes, the way they have made her up in the above ad does remind one of ghouls. I like some of the colors in this makeup line but I certainly wouldn’t wear them as shown – I’d scare everyone around me, including me – LOL!!!

  • Anna

    Enjoy the ride! 🙂

  • Anna

    (I hope it’ll be better than that bag video. Just sayin’.)

  • Eme

    I guess I ought to have used another adjective besides *lucrative* because, like Kristen, the work is the most important thing, not the money. But, I agree, Chanel is probably her biggest paycheck now.

  • Anna

    Like with everything in fashion campaigns, they always dramatize things so people would notice them (it’s not like they are suggesting people to wear that particular eyeshadow that way, LOL).

  • Eme

    I am!! And lovely *stops* like this latest news makes the ride even sweeter!! Looking forward to the journey always!! 🙂

  • Eme

    Oh, did he direct that one? Yeah, let’s hope so. But, to be honest, I didn’t like any of those videos. Cara D.’s was the most fun, but even that was meh.

  • Eme

    Yeah, well, the level of intelligence & critical thinking these days . . . . . . . .

  • Anna

    No, he didn’t.
    But this perfume is part of the same Gabrielle “universe”, so to say, so maybe its campaign will be similar to what they did for those bags (I don’t think it will but who knows).

  • Anna

    Ugh. I always forget that. Sigh. LOL

  • Eme

    Oh, ok. I would guess that the commercial will be different, longer and more *mainstream* because it will be reaching a wider audience – and the product is more accessible to the general public then those overpriced handbags, js.

  • Anna

    Not, if the fragrance itself is edgy and a bit niche.
    We’ll see.

  • Eme

    Unfortunately, I am reminded of it every. single. moment. of. the. day. here in the USA. Ugh.

  • Eme

    I am looking forward to the campaign. Heyyyy, Kristen!!!

  • Anna

    (You don’t need to tell me more. I can see. It’s like people went crazy.)

  • Eme

    Yup. And yup!!

  • Anna

    Wonder if that means there will be an event/dinner in her honor (in Sept/Oct in LA) like the one they had for Lily-Rose for her Chanel N°5 campaign launch last year.

  • CJ

    About the fragrance creator: “The younger Mr. Polge, 40, brings his own bragging rights to the plum spot: He created best sellers like Viktor & Rolf’s Flowerbomb and Balenciaga’s Florabotanica. ”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/05/fashion/meet-olivier-polge-chanels-new-fragrance-creator.html?_r=1

  • Eme

    Oh, yes, please. And, I think so because it would be glaringly obvious if they did not honor her in the same way.

  • Anna

    Oh! I love Florabotanica! Which means I like that guy’s taste in fragrances. Bodes well for Gabrielle.

  • Anna

    I suppose. But . . . Chanel N°5 *is* Chanel N°5, their crown jewel, so there’s a bit of difference, I guess.

  • Eme

    He looks so very French! And I love Florabotanica so I’ll be interested to see/smell Kristen’s new fragrance (and she was the face of Florabotanica and its sister scent a few years ago, so the parallels are there for a successful run.

  • Eme

    We’ll see.

  • Anna

    I hope Gabrielle will be more like Flora than Rosa.

  • Eme

    Bbl.

  • Anna

    Bye!

  • Anna

    Yup!

  • Eme

    Yeah. I don’t wear scent because I’m sensitive to fragrance so I just smell them at the counter, but I did like Flora better than Rosa (which was a stronger fragrance, I think).

  • Anna

    Yes, much stronger.

  • Anna

    (P.S. Notice how they all can pass as nice names for girls. LOL)

  • Anna

    OT

    Wow! She scored Vogue US cover. Nice.

    https://twitter.com/voguemagazine/status/862308730981019648

  • Anna
  • OG Guest

    Yes, let’s please dispense of this notion that Chanel is edging her out. She’s still clearly right at their forefront for the foreseeable future. Her needing their permission to shave her head spoke volumes, and this even more so, because they have big hopes for this perfume.

  • OG Guest

    Some interesting details from when the fragrance was announced. It is not intended to be a niche fragrance. They want it to be a top ten seller. As for the “story” behind the fragrance, I think Kristen fits that to a T.

    “Dagousset described the young Gabrielle as a free spirit: “She was a Leo actually, so she couldn’t be tamed.” She declined to break down the composition of the scent, saying only that it was created by Chanel’s fragrance creator Olivier Polge.

    With the new fragrance pillar, “we were exploring this whole moment of before Coco — who she really was at the core and that’s what we wanted to express in this new fragrance,” she said.”

    http://wwd.com/fashion-news/designer-luxury/chanel-karl-lagerfeld-coco-10805147/

  • Anna

    Honey, pettiness doesn’t suit you.
    I have ZERO problem acknowledging I was wrong re this. Which is, if you can read, exactly what I did. Right away.
    The one who has issues with it is, apparently, you.

    And I was the one to notice that thing about Chanel’s permission so…try again.

  • Anna

    “Alternative floral”, which is how it’s been described in most articles, has a bit of a niche sound to it. But there’s nothing that good campaign can’t fix. Hopefully, everything will go as planned and it will be total success in every way.

  • OG Guest

    I’m not being petty. I’m agreeing and saying let’s move on from thinking that.

  • Anna

    Already moved on.

    Now I’m trying to figure when she shot that thing. LOL

  • OG Guest

    The news outlets are reporting different things.

  • Anna

    Yeah, it’s confusing.

  • BrendaStar

    Thanks for the exciting news. All I need to see is that Gabrielle’s creator also created Florabotanica, my current favorite.

  • BrendaStar

    I agree about the names being pretty names for girls. I especially like Gabrielle

  • Anna
  • Anna

    Get Out at #1, PS as the runner-up at #2.

    https://twitter.com/akstanwyck/status/862340484882063360

  • BrendaStar

    Radiant and rebellious is rather striking. Now we have a radiant rebellion or a radiant rebel. Lol.

  • BrendaStar

    Wow, the director’s credentials are very promising and impressive.

  • BrendaStar

    It really is a good news day! Thanks.

  • Eme

    Love the name Gabrielle.

  • Eme

    YESSSS!!!

  • Eme

    This is a big production! Wow! I am one happy fan right now!

  • Alfred Birchall

    Apparently Olivier Polge was also the man behind Florabotanica for Balenciaga. I always thought Nicholas Guesquire descrption of “Naughty Flowers ” In a heavy French accent of course was a really good take on that one. I love Florabotanica but I am running low at the moment.Off to Portugal next week so I will have to visit Duty Free. Lol Sue B

  • Alfred Birchall

    Rosabotanica was a bit too “Peppery” for my taste I am down to my last bit of Flora so I will get a smaller size til I can try this new Chanel .Cant wait I think this Olivier has a look of Nicholas Guesquire actually Very French …!

  • Alfred Birchall

    I think that as well ! Fact is she has all this stuff going on and plays her cards very close Like we thought there was nothing to get excited over how wrong were we Unlike some who will shout about the opening of an envelope .Hmm

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  • Anna

    That’s Saturday which means she’ll have to leave Friday May 19th. She can get back on time for Monday morning set call so that’s just 1 day off, most likely (plus that one Friday she got for the wedding).

  • Anna

    P.S. Those surprises are master classes by Clint Eastwood and Alfonso Cuaron.
    (That would be something Kristen, as aspiring director, should attend but her schedule is tricky.)

  • Anna
  • gillian kemp

    Hopefully she will get an extra day. I would love for her to be rested for interview. And have some time to network.

  • OG Guest

    I think she likely negotiated the time off into her contract. I’m confident she’ll be there.

  • Eme

    Hope Train riding that she’ll be able to attend both this (I agree with OG Guest that the possibilities of other events that she needs to be at were negotiated in the contract) and the Chanel show in June.

  • Eme

    I hope she does get to attend if not both, at least one of them.

  • Anna

    Yeah, most likely.

  • Anna

    Which Chanel show in June?
    There’s that Gabrielle promo event in Japan at the end of this month (still no exact date) and then PFW in first half of July (colliding with JT LeRoy filming). In June we have that charity gala.

  • Anna

    Clint’s is on May 21st, but she might be on her way back to US when it starts, and Alfonso’s is on May 24th so that’s not a possibility for her.

  • Eme

    It must be the Gabrielle promo I’m thinking about because it’s in Japan. PFW is probably not realistic for her given the JT LeRoy filming unless Chanel requires her there. What charity gala?

  • Eme

    Bummer. Of the 2, I would probably lean more toward Cuaron. Clintwood is a possibility if she gets more days off but highly unlikely.

  • Anna

    Gun control one on June 7th.

  • Eme

    Oh, I think she’ll be there because she’s a co-chair, right? Man, isn’t this always what it’s like being her fan – feast or famine. Nothing and then bam!! Lol.

  • Anna

    Yup! LOL

  • Eme

    You put me to shame. You’d think I’d know all this info re her schedule and events but, no. I rely on you and others on this board to keep me up- to-date on Kristen Stewart. Lol.

  • Anna

    Agree, Alfonso’s sounds more interesting. But Kristen, as a beginner, can’t be picky. One can learn something from everyone.
    But I don’t think she’ll attend anything aside from Come Swim events. It’ll be in-and-out kind of Cannes for her, probably.

  • Eme

    Yeah, more than likely. Oh well. At least we get to see her at Cannes!

  • Anna

    I suffer from my own fair share of mixing dates and events, don’t you worry. Or maybe you should? LOL

  • Eme

    Yeah, the memory. LOL!!

  • Anna

    Who knows.
    Come Swim is part of that special events selection dedicated to festival’s 70th anniversary but when you look at that schedule, it won’t be screened on the day intended for that special selection. Everything looks like she will be there for a short time.
    And because it’s special selection, I don’t think there will be many interviews scheduled for her to do.

  • Anna
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    So, Lizzie possibly going directly to VOD? Meh.

    https://twitter.com/Variety/status/862698882979045379

  • BrendaStar

    Sweetly funny. Good job by Elle Fanning and production team. EDit: Thank you, Anna.

  • Anna

    (IF so, I’m disappointed. I didn’t expect much from it, far from that, but I hoped at least for Sundance, if not TIFF, and then day-and-date release, kinda like what CXR and Anesthesia got. But this . . . sigh. From working with Ang Lee to direct to VOD film. SMH)

  • BrendaStar

    I was wondering about Lizzie, and I am not surprised by a VOD release. I think that is the best route for films that do not seem either profitable or awards worthy.

  • BrendaStar

    Gorgeous advertisement.

  • Anna

    No, that a pic from Kristen’s Madame Figaro cover shoot (Feb, I think, 2015).

  • Anna

    It’s debatable whether that’s the best for a film or not but it’s definitely a bad career trajectory.

  • BrendaStar

    You definitely know more about that. It seems desirable to me that mediocre films get released quickly while they still feel new. Personally I lose interest in mediocre films that take forever to be released. Anesthesia and even Equals come to mind. Dragging out Equals at least gave the fans beautiful pics from Kristen’s and Nick’s appearances, but I don’t think it helped Kristen’s career at all. Why continue to advertise something that clearly is not that great.

  • Anna

    Well, they didn’t advertise it at all. Equals, I mean. Only this fandom was interested in it but, then again, we are, more or less, interested in all of her films so to us it seemed there was more promo activity around it than it it really was.
    But you do have a point there, they shouldn’t drag it too long.
    As for what those films did for her career . . . objectively, just few movies did anything to help her move forward: Panic Room, Into the Wild (got her SAG nom, On the Road and Twilight), Twilight series (but it’s also a curse), CoSM + special mentions: Safety of Objects (because without it, she would have stopped auditioning), Speak (because it helped her realize she wants to be an actress), CXR (got her back in the game after she hit the bottom); verdict is still out on CW and PS. All other 30 or so films she made might mean something to her on personal level but they didn’t do much if anything for her career, IMO. And that’s how it goes for everyone.

  • OG Guest

    This does not preclude a film festival, nor does it preclude a day-and-date release. And Kristen is also toplining a studio movie, FYI.

  • Anna

    They are launching their own VOD service but aren’t distributors which means they can’t cover theatrical part in day-and-date release (they would need to find someone like IFC to handle that part for them but then why would that company let them keep the streaming rights?). That to me looks like VOD only route.
    Movie’s go to festivals to (try to) avoid direct to VOD fate. So ………………
    Also, that “Kristen is toplining a studio movie” is getting old. It’s a lame studio movie, not one of the good ones. Charlie Hunnam is currently toplining a $175M (in reality, $200-230M) flop that he got because — wait for it — no one else with serious career wanted to be in it (because it was crystal clear right from the start that the whole concept is a very bad idea). No one fought to be in Underwater either, from what I know.
    Anyway, everyone knows where I stand re that whole thing so no point in repeating it all again.

  • OG Guest

    They need a distributor either way. They might be gearing it towards VOD, but again, that doesn’t preclude day and date. It also says they’re focusing on “high quality” genre films, and VOD might be the best place for a movie like Lizzie to reach an audience. And a film festival is where they can take it to get advanced word out if they are satisfied with the quality. Again, that doesn’t preclude a festival. Netflix doesn’t release all of its films in theaters, for example, but many go to festivals. As for Underwater, I’m not stating any “excuse.” I stated a fact. I would love that crystal ball you seem to have though, and whatever “insider” info you may have about no one “fighting” to be in that movie, or whether Kristen was simply their top choice.

  • OG Guest

    Other than build a credible body of work to showcase her talents, allow her to work with top-notch co-stars, etc. Minor points though.

  • Anna

    Um, no they don’t. They have the move and they’ll have a VOD service. Done. No one would buy that film for very limited theatrical run without also getting streaming rights (that, by the look of things aren’t for sale) for them as a package deal.
    Did you expect them to say they are focusing on a low quality? Of course they are going to say they are planing to release only good films, they are trying to sell you their product. Marketing 101. Just look at their slates: zero promising projects (Lizzie seems to be the best among them and we know how weak on paper it is).
    Seriously? You are comparing these no name companies with Netflix? Come on now! Those of Netflix’s movies that end up at festivals have director + cast + subject/script/concept that puts them on everyone’s radar regardless of who has them. Not the case with Lizzie, *at all*.
    Whether she was their top choice or not is quite irrelevant. We are not talking about a top director here so possibly being his/their first choice is not exactly a compliment nor anything . When a good project appears on the market rumors about potential big(ger) stars interested in doing it start flying around, guessing game never stops not even after official announcement(s), ect. Underwater had *nothing* like that.
    As I said, I’m not going to repeat myself again.

  • Anna

    Doremus didn’t improve her credibility. Nor did Tim Blake Nelson. Nor Nima. Nor so many others. Woody and Ang kinda did but those movies didn’t live up to their full potential. Working with good co-stars is part of that “meaning something on personal level” thing I mentioned.
    So, like it or not, only films that are great as a whole (acting, directing, script, ect.) that also click with the critics and/or audiences, count as career milestones (because they serve as door openers). Or those that earn s**t load of money. All other films are just filling the time in between (that doesn’t make them irrelevant nor pointless nor even bad but they don’t represent career turning points).

  • OG Guest

    Her acting in those movies did. Those movies allowed people to see her talent when Twilight didn’t. That’s how you build a career. Some are duds and go nowhere. Some are bad. Some are great. Some make a lot of money. That’s how it goes. And idk how you think working with good co-stars only means something on a personal level, as opposed to giving her the opportunity to learn from some of the best like Juliette, Julianne, Bruce Dern, etc. etc. etc.

  • OG Guest

    I meant they even need a VOD distributor. This new sales venture isn’t going to broadcast the movies on VOD – they still need someone to buy it. That distributor could choose to day and date it or take it to a festival. I’m willing to bet that this movie won’t just show up on VOD one day. It will likely have a festival premiere first.

    You’re so wrong on everything else, as we constantly witness casting announcements where there have been zero rumors about who is going for the role. Unless it’s something like Star Wars or another superhero movie, those rumors rarely exist.

  • Anna

    And? Where did I say anything different? SMH. Read, please.
    Right now, we are talking about very specific movies here: those that represent milestones in someone’s career, films after which things change (for the better preferably), after which nothing stays as it was before. Only few movies are like that. The longer and the better career, the more of them an actor/actress will have.
    Every film made counts in terms of experience but that’s simmply not enough.
    Until she goes and says I learned this from that actor and that from this actress, we can’t know how much and in which way her co-stars have affected her, her acting nor how much they mean to her (professionally). That’s why working with great co-stars I label as something with a meaning on personal level. That doesn’t exclude any effects on her professional life (but it’s usually a cumulative effect, not one specific experience to file it as a turning point).

  • Anna

    Not if they are making content that is specifically intended for VOD releases. Which is exactly what that article says.
    Look, we have no final info about Lizzie’s fate (that’s why that “IF” at the beginning of my original post) so all we can do is sit and wait but this new development combined with the fact that the itself movie doesn’t look particularly good (at least, not on paper) is pushing it (far) away from “traditional” release (even if its *very* limited theatrical).

    Really? Rarely exist? They are out there for almost all *good* (on paper) studio films, not only superhero ones. You hear it almost every time when, IDK, Margot Robbie gets a new role (because, hey, we need to know who she managed to beat to get it), and so on. You sound like you are completely new in this whole casting thing (which I know you aren’t).

  • Anna

    (P.S. I left out SWATH for obvious reasons but it belongs on that list. Sadly.)

  • csm123

    Solution is the International Sales company for Lizzie. As far as we know they are not producing it and is not part of their VOD genre slate. We’ll know either way next week when their genre slate is revealed. It isn’t a direct to VOD film until it is.

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    Ha! And LOL because Huh?!
    Anyway, IFC will add (that’s the huh?! part) 1 theater this weekend so PS will be in 8 theaters total.

    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/counts/chart/?yr=2017&wk=19&p=.htm

  • Anna

    Shouldn’t ‘What Just Happened’ be on this list, as well? I mean, it was at Cannes FF 2008.

    https://twitter.com/KSTEWART_THAI/status/862742969979355136

  • gillian kemp

    Il don’t understand their business plan.

  • BrendaStar

    I agree pretty much with your analysis of films that contributed to advancing Kristen’s career although I have a few others. Directors and critics have often mentioned Adventureland. I know Woody Allen did. I think Assayas mentioned The Runaways. I include Cafe Society because it introduced Kristen to Woody’s fans and I liked the film. I include CXR because it is s good film and introduced a topic, Gitmo, that was not done by anyone else. I would include any film that is part of the Criterion collection too. Maybe I’m dreaming but I thought CW was getting a Criterion release which is awesome. Anyway forgive all this, but I do enjoy thinking about this topic. Also thanks for your responses.

  • Anna

    Hmmm. You ae right, Adventureland definitely belongs on that list.
    We’ll see what kind of lasting career effect CW will have.
    I disagree about CS (I just don’t think it’s that important but I can see why others do).

  • BrendaStar

    OT: Two flops in a short time is sad news. It looks that way for Charlie Human. Arthur is predicted to be a flop and Lost City of Z probably is. I actually loved explorers as a child so if I have a chance to see Lost City even on DVD, I will. Lost City had good reviews.

  • Anna

    It will come out on DVD on July 11th.
    It was a critical success (and will probably get its director, producers and cast quite a few awards noms/wins at the end of this year) so it served its purpose.

  • BrendaStar

    That is wonderful news. I just checked and Lost City of Z has an 88 RT score. PS is up to 81.

  • Anna

    Yeah, it really did get great reviews (CoSM level of great).
    I’m glad PS is in the 80%s!

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    That’s Kristen, Nick and Stacey.

  • Anna

    No one sane does.

  • BrendaStar

    When you consider the reviews out of Cannes, then PS made huge progress. The reviews have been so good for Kristen too! Time for me to get some sleep so see you later. Have a good day.

  • Anna

    Agree! The US critics came through for PS this time.

    Night, Brenda!

  • Anna

    (That’s not a fan made list, it’s from Cannes’ official site.)

  • OG Guest

    New pics. Kristen is looking very banged up. Hopefully some of it is movie makeup.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4500004/Kristen-Stewart-steps-mystery-marks-legs.html

  • Anna

    New pics.

    Kristen out in NOLA. Her legs are covered with bruises. Those actions scenes . . . it’s all in or nothing for her, as usual.

    (I hope she won’t wear anything short in Cannes because of that. Which is such a bummer as the best thing about new Chanel cruise collection are those short dresses.)

  • Anna

    (And of course Daily Mail is making ~insinuations about it. SSDD.)

  • Anna

    And one Awww! moment: Kristen and Bernie.

  • Anna

    (I hope that thing on her left arm is just set makeup she didn’t took off and not a new tattoo.)

  • Anna

    Some (not more than a few) might be real but, after zooming in on some of those pics, it looks more like makeup than bruises.

    That aside, Bernie is funny. LOL

  • Anna

    (Also, guys, if you want to see them, you have those pics on fansites. Daily Mail can go to hell.)

  • Anna

    (And I honestly wonder if Bear is OK/still alive.)

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  • MCR

    Lost City of Z was a good movie. I really hate the idea (although I understand the concept) that a good movie + good acting + good directing + good reviews + low profits = flop.

  • gillian kemp

    Is it eligible for awards this year? Did it have some small release last year?

  • BrendaStar

    Thanks, MCR, for the info. I am even more determined to see Lost City now. I agree that a good film should not be called a flop. I am puzzled as to why it did not get a larger audience. It seems a real life heroic person is held in lower esteem than a “fake” comic book one.

  • Anna

    It only premiered last year (NYFF) so it’s very much eligible for this year’s awards season.

  • Anna

    It’s still an art-house film. So, while it certainly has mainstream potential, its target audience are regular moviegoers (which are small group of people). Critics themselves said it won’t be for everyone.

  • Anna

    That’s the “industry” part of everything. It is what it is.

  • gillian kemp

    I thought it had a small release last year, but I must be thinking about another movie.

  • Anna

    Not a tattoo. Well, it is, but it’s her old tattoo covered with makeup.

  • Anna

    No, it’s was released a month ago.

  • OG Guest

    As of 9 months or so ago, he was.

  • Anna

    Yeah, I know. I remember seeing that old pic.
    But 9 months is a long time.
    Anyway, hopefully he’s just fine.

  • BrendaStar

    Kristen and Bernie. You have to scroll down a bit. Sorry. https://mobile.twitter.com/jess_kstewart

  • Anna

    Possibility of the worst summer BO results in last 10 years. You think they’ll ever learn?

    https://twitter.com/latimesent/status/860593419839602689

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  • Eme

    Hi there! Good day, everyone. The awards I think LCoZ will be up for will be in cinematography, director and best supporting for Sienna (possibly) from what I can gather from the reviews. Some critics complained about the slow tempo of the film but found the visuals very exciting. Jmo.

  • Eme

    Thanks, Brenda. Yay for PS!!

  • Eme

    She loves her furry ones!!

  • Eme

    FU to Daily Mail and all the haters. And a middle finger salute also because they deserve it.

  • Eme

    When I saw the pics I thought it was makeup covering her tattoos. And she looks like she was either finished for the day filming or, more likely, on a break from filming. I think it’s quirky and funny that she goes around in full makeup mode from the set to the outside world. Cracks me up that it draws all the haters and tabs out saying all kinds of bs stuff – they are soooo predictable it makes them boring big time.

  • Eme

    Um, MCR, are you seeing this? “Ghoulish” makeup magnified!!! LOL!!!

  • Eme

    Cool!!!

  • Eme

    Oh, and just to clarify, I goggle Kristen daily and just see the headlines of the stupid tabs but don’t click because I don’t want to give them any profit for their bs.
    I see the pics on fan sites.

  • Anna

    That +hair and makeup, costumes, production design, maybe even visuals. Can’t talk about sound categories because, honestly, mixing and editing seem the same to me (I know they aren’t but what can I do when it’s — confusing, LOL) but both are a possibility. Also critics might nominate and/or award Pattinson for best supporting actor (depending on a competition) while, if we are talking about more of mainstream awards, GG is possible in theory.
    People behind it actually campaigned for that movie during promo like they want it to get a BP Oscar nom (they went guild by guild which is the best way to get that nom). It doesn’t mean they’ll get it but they certainly did put things in motion (ground work is already done).

  • Anna

    She boarded a plane to Cannes covered with fake blood from AU set. Enough said. LOL
    (I wish she was more aware, though, because, well, you saw the comments.)

  • Anna

    My first thought. LOL

  • Eme

    Hmmm, didn’t get enough of a sense from critics’ reviews about Pattinson’s role/acting – I read positive reviews but also that his is a small part in the movie. Who knows.
    I don’t think they’ll get a BP Oscar nom but I wouldn’t bet that they won’t either. And I haven’t seen the movie so I don’t have any opinion on its merits other than what critic reviews I have read (and I only read maybe two or three – not much as I wasn’t really interested in the movie – it’s not the kind of movie that interested me, tbh).

  • Eme

    No, I didn’t but I can imagine what the haters would say – I only had to read comments once to know that they say the same thing over and over again. There are some seriously butt hurt people out there, lmao!

  • Anna

    Well, when you follow 300 critics/bloggers/trades/movie sites/ect. you hear a lot about films that are critically acclaimed. Sometimes to much. LOL

    Honestly, everything will be much clearer after Cannes is over. And then, of course, with first Venice announcements in August. Till then, it’s just a guessing game. As for Pattinson . . . many feel his role in it isn’t “meaty” enough but it could help him build a momentum for when his other film comes out. Anyway, that’s what people are talking about.
    We in this fandom have much bigger not so tasty fish to fry (unfortunately).

  • Anna

    Well yeah, but today they are particularly nasty (evil even) and are far more numerous than usual. Sigh.

  • Eme

    Yeah, I don’t follow Pattinson, honestly. I only know about him because he and Kristen were a couple back in the day. I’m focused on Kristen and her current and future projects. Hope Train riding, as always. 🙂

  • Eme

    300 critics/bloggers/trades/movie sites/etc.??!! Wow. I’m impressed!

  • Anna

    Neither do I. But it’s not like those critics are spending days talking about Kristen and her films only.
    You hold onto that hope because there are days when it’s…though.

  • Eme

    Well, fuck them and their small minds. Hope karma bites them where it hurts the most. Sorry not sorry.

  • Eme

    Oh, I know. Glad you do follow all that you do because you bring it here and I, for one, learn something from from your posts always.

  • Anna

    That + fans (quite a few of them) + fashion (blame it on Kristen, LOL) + general news (aka politics as you can’t live in a bubble) + travel, ect.
    Yes, my head hurts sometimes. LOL

  • Anna

    🙂

  • Eme

    I bet!! LOL!!!

  • Anna

    I’m getting disappointed in karma’s efficiency as of lately (too much s**t going on in this world without any consequences). So those will get away with all the BS they keep posting about her for almost a decade now.

  • Eme

    The *only* comments that I care or worry about are the critics. Because the film reviews matter big time, both for Kristen’s career, and unfortunately, BO. People that comment bs hate on articles about Kristen are exposing their issues and small minds for all to see – and they’re too ignorant to know what their actions really say about them. It’s social media at its very worst and baseness.
    And in the end of it all, those comments matter in Kristen’s life not one little bit. And they’re too stupid to see that even. Rant over.

  • Anna

    Well . . . it’s not that simple. Those people don’t matter if we are talking about such films as CoSM or PS or CW, ect. but they sure might be very important for Underwater. Plus, producers do care about public perception and they are Kristen’s employers after all.
    And it’s more than just movies and her career and all that. Clean/good name counts a lot and the older one gets, the more important it becomes (in some situations, it’s priceless). She’s slowly approaching that age when she’ll have to start taking care of it, if not for herself then maybe for her future family’s sake (which she said she wants to have one day). Kwim?

  • Anna

    CW will be direct to DVD release in Brazil (it comes out next month).

    https://twitter.com/KStewartBR/status/863173953786974208

  • Anna

    PS will available on DVD next month, too.

    https://twitter.com/KStewartBR/status/863176663919734785

  • Eme

    Yes, I know it’s not that simple. But, honestly, I just don’t want to give the haters and tabs that much power.

  • Anna

    Sadly, they are taking over the world (their way of thinking, I mean). SMH

  • Eme

    So, they both will go to direct DVD? No theater run for PS even?

  • Anna

    It had limited theatrical run, I think.

  • Eme

    No, I need to continue to have hope that they won’t in the end. France gave me some hope that reason is not all lost.

  • Eme

    Yes, I thought so also.

  • Anna

    Yeah, that is true. Lets hope Germany will follow their lead.
    (But it’s far from being over, even in France.)

  • Eme

    Yes, I know. But the result shows me that the rest of the world is paying attention and that there is still hope for a reasoned, intelligent, humane discourse among the populace (at least I can say that about France and, hopefully, the rest of Europe).

  • Anna

    Yeah, it’s not as bad there.

  • Eme

    OT (but not really!) – Melissa McCarthy is hosting SNL this Saturday. Hold on to your hats, people!! LOL!!!!

  • Eme

    I just saw on a newsfeed a video of her riding a mobile podium dressed as Sean Spicer on the streets of New York. Almost fell on the floor I was laughing so hard. I am sure it’s one of the skits that will be shown on SNL.

  • Anna
  • Eme

    IKR??!!! See my post below!!! Thanks for bringing the visuals!! I. just. can’t. stop. laughing.!!!!

  • Anna

    You are welcome.
    I had the same reaction. LOL

  • Anna
  • gillian kemp

    I have just about given up on going to the movies. If it wasn’t for Kristen, I would probably go to the movie theater once a year. That article is just depressing.

  • BrendaStar

    This review of PS is likely to lift the spirits of most fans. This critic/film teacher has huge praise for Kristen, PS, and Assayas. For example, the texting scene is something that will be discussed for years to come. In all honesty must disclose the RT score is down to 80%. http://www.abc.net.au/radio/programs/nightlife/cj-movies/8442176

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  • MCR

    Scary! Seriously, it’s attention-grabbing, but very ill-conceived, I think. Although you never know what look will catch on.

  • MCR

    I often feel that way. An annual film festival I always go to really revives my interest. If only the movies they show at FFs turned up at the cineplex.

  • MCR

    Cute dog. And hey, Xavier Dolan is making another movie!

  • MCR

    I assume she’s very sensibly stopped reading that stuff.

  • Eme

    Isn’t that the truth!!

  • Anna

    If only those films got theatrical releases to begin with. Many of them don’t even get picked up for distribution. Battle for cineplex screens is lost but now not even idie/art-house theaters are safe bets anymore.

  • Eme

    Yeah, the blue is very electric so I’m not surprised they went for it for a billboard ad. The other colors are more *muted* lol!!

  • Eme

    I can’t imagine that she cares to read that stuff tbh.

  • Anna

    I think she does. From time to time. And I think she keeps track of it all. Occasionally. I don’t think she cares, not in the way fans do and not enough to change who she is, but, at same time, there are moments when it feels like some of her actions/behavior is reaction to that, like she’s being too stubborn for her own good and is trying to swim against the current (basically, one big FU to them no matter the consequences). I do think they have a hold over her in some aspects. Who knows.

  • Eme

    Who knows. Honestly, I think she just lives her life and goes with her gut instincts which may translate for some as a FU.

  • Anna

    Yeah, maybe.
    But she did talk about reading comments on the web (reactions about what she was wearing and stuff). Plus, via instagram, she’s quite “familiar” with all the hate she’s getting in general (things posted there are pretty much the same as stuff posted elsewhere). And in some of her interviews she did directly address things people say about her (that she doesn’t care, that she hates Twilight, ect.) acknowledging that she’s talking about it exactly *because* they have those opinions. That’s why I think she’s aware of everything. I’m not saying she’s reading comment sections on a daily basis, no, but she knows. And, in one way or the other, she’s reacting to it.

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  • Eme

    Lol!! Is this still in NYC?

  • Eme

    Could be. Well, if she’s reacting to them, hopefully, it’s how she wants to not because she feels she needs to but who knows.

  • Anna

    Yup! LOL

  • Anna

    Aaaand I think we have our confirmation that Kristen will be in Cannes.

    @taraswennen
    #Cannes #Fittings #Nola #Edition #Inspiration

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BUDOPG4FTz5/

  • Anna

    (If that “inspiration” means she’s going to wear colors, I’m OK with it. LOL)

  • Anna

    And she’s in NOLA right on time for bday party (Stella’s).

  • Eme

    Hello yes to color on Kristen!!

  • Eme

    Yes, please Tara, *fittings* is the word! Make the outfit(s) fit her *like a glove*!

  • Eme

    When’s Stella’s birthday?

  • Eme

    🙂

  • Anna

    Monday (as far as I know). But I think they’ll start celebrating it tomorrow, if not tonight.

  • Anna

    Especially now when she’s a bit slimmer than usual.

  • Eme

    Yes, she’s working so her weight is reflecting that, as usual. She really is looking very slim.

  • Eme

    Thank you, all knowing CSI!

  • Anna

    LOL

    You are welcome.

  • gillian kemp

    I don’t think the clothes can be altered to much. She must get sample sizes. I have noticed other spokesman for clothing lines, in clothes that could be better fitted.

  • gillian kemp

    Who is Stella? I have a feeling I should know her.

  • OG Guest

    Stella Maxwell is Kristen’s current girlfriend.

  • Eme

    That’s true. But it seems to me that if she’s wearing Chanel, the brand that she is an ambassador for, that they would want the clothes to fit her well. That being said, she looked amazing at the PS New York premiere. That gown looked smashing on her.

  • Eme

    Sorry for the late reply but OG Guest answered. The beautiful Stella M. is indeed the equally beautiful (if not more so, imo) Kristen’s girlfriend.

  • Anna

    If Chanel can let her cut off their T-shirts or long dresses to make them short (remember Cannes last year), they sure can make sure ordinary fitting is done (well).

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  • Anna

    (Stephanie, I know it’s probably harder for you today than usual but it will be OK. It will!)

  • Anna

    Update: they started last night. LOL

  • Eme

    Blessings to you, Anna, for your kind words.

  • Eme

    Happy Mom Day to those who celebrate.

  • Eme

    Love, kisses & hugs to you Stephanie.

  • Anna

    😉

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    🙂

  • MCR

    … 😳

  • Anna
  • Stephanie

    Dear Anna and Eme
    I woke up early, very early than usual today, walk around the house, memories are circulating in my head…it’s a first year without her! I visit this board and saw the first couple posts are from two dear friends who I considered second family members. You two are a wonderful human being friends that I have never met in my life, you often offered a kind words. I deeply love and appreciate your wisdom advices. I wish (just a wish) one day a miracle will connect us. Thank you for allowing me to cry and whine to you when the emptiness moment runs my emotion. Happy Mother’s Day to you and to everyone here who celebrate today.

  • Anna

    One day at a time, Stephanie. One day at a time. Things will settle down and you’ll be OK.

    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-jPO4fmRVdWg/WLue5eEd8NI/AAAAAAAAVBA/erfb8zSkSqwGQFib82lUFubb_aCDXvnXwCLcB/s320/I-love-you-animated-emoji.gif

  • Anna
  • Eme

    <3,<3,<3

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  • MCR

    Whatever the reaction may be, the movie’s there, it’s being seen, and that’s a good thing.

  • Anna

    Well, we are yet to see how much interest for it is going to be there.

  • Anna

    Another one. MCR won’t be happy. LOL

    https://twitter.com/itsNizzle/status/863870838461870080

  • Anna

    And the old one is almost finished.

    https://twitter.com/StewFan89/status/863878014408560642

  • MCR

    LOL As long as she only wears it in the ad.

  • Eme

    Um, Cannes PS premiere. JS. Lol!

  • Anna
  • Anna

    She will wear that blue eyeshadow only if Beau is doing her makeup (that’s his favorite color, I think, and he likes that kind of look). Other shades from that collection are quite possible, though.
    We’ll see. LOL

  • Eme

    Wonder if Lucia will do her makeup at Cannes, particularly as Kristen is fronting this new eye line.

  • Anna

    That’s quite possible. Depends whether she’ll busy with something else (because, she works for Chanel, she’s not a celebrity makeup artist).

  • MCR

    Argh.

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    MELISSA MCCARTHY, GUEST STAR

    Back in February, I was on a plane with Kristen [Stewart] — she was coming out to host SNL; I was coming out to shoot a movie. She has a reputation for not loving to be interviewed, which I think becomes very funny, so I shamelessly pitched her [this monologue idea where she’s] doing the worst opening ever.

  • Anna

    (See, it’s not what it is, it’s how it is perceived. Kristen doesn’t hate interviews, she hates stupid intrusive questions that are insult to everyone’s common sense. Big difference. Why this particular thing is important? Just imagine you being a journalist sent to interview someone who is “known” for being difficult interviewee – that’s a conversation already destined to be harder than necessary because of that strong preconception. Which almost always means Kristen won’t sound as well as she can. And then readers will get all kinds of misguided impressions of her.)

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  • Eme

    😉

  • MCR

    Exactly.

  • Anna

    What saddens me is that it seems like her own people (other actors/actresses like Melissa in this case, directors, ect.) have so many wrong perceptions of who she is. That can’t be without consequences. Sigh.

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    [This ( https://twitter.com/gettinggorjess ) used to be *the* biggest Kristen’s fan account/site on twitter “@kstewartnews”, the only one with more than 200K followers (it was/is 217K to be precise). They stopped posting ona daily basis sometime in 2015, I think, but would tweet from time to time. And today it re-surfaced as a totally different account (new name and everything) keeping all the followers but deleting every single tweet from their history so now we can’t even use it as a archive of sorts to search for older Kristen related things. Who ever is running it is one smug person – starting with their own account but without having to work hard to gain that number of followers . SMH. Anyway, it is what it is – we are now left with just a couple of active fan accounts/sites. Sigh.]

  • Eme

    Is this what was formerly KSN? Because I went there the other day and she had a post dated May 1st stating that she was closing KSN but starting a new site that was not a Kristen Stewart site only but was more focused on the owner’s career interest in fashion, and that Kristen news would be posted there – primarily fashion news. I think one can still get on that site and see her post. Don’t know if this is the same person.

  • Anna

    Hmm. Didn’t see that post. And yes, that’s the site.
    But, the thing is, she’s now using that big number of followers for her own personal gain. I mean, those people started following her because of Kristen and not because of whatever she herself has to say about ~stuff. Of course, it’s her account and she can do anything she wants to do with it but this just seems — wrong. Farah, for example, didn’t took over IOKTBY account for her own things, and she could have; instead, she made her personal account. Kwim? Anyway…………………………..

  • Eme

    Yeah, sorry, I don’t know how all this works in terms of managing these kinds of sites and the rules (ethics) behind them all. I do see that she has a built-in following because of KSN but don’t know how many of those will stick with her new account since it’s not strictly a Kristen Stewart fan site.
    But, I hear you. Seems like another case of someone benefiting on Kristen’s name. It would have been cleaner if she just opened a personal account like Farah did. Who knows.

  • Anna

    Yeah ………………………
    I just hope she won’t delete her site because at least that can serve us an archive.

  • Eme

    I’m feeling kinda sad that I became a Kristen fan so late in the game because since I came on board 2 Kristen fan sites have closed (first IOKTBY and now KSN). Hmmm. If I had a paranoid nature I’d think I was bringing bad luck to the fandom, lol!!!

  • Anna

    OT

    Casting news everywhere since a week or so. Cannes effect.

    This was just announced: Claire Foy front-runner for Lisbeth role in Dragon Tattoo sequel. But, what’s more interesting, to me at least, is who else was up for that role.
    One would think Kristen should be in the mix having in mind the character and the story but …….
    Not that I wanted her to do it as the book this new installment is based on isn’t all that good but still being in the mix would be nice.
    (That other movie, First Man, is Lens Armstrong biopic with R. Gosling attached to play him. Also obvious from these tweets is that what Foy is doing is an excellent example of how one plans to use all the momentum big award can give you — she won GG — to fully establish solid career. Something Kristen didn’t do well if at all after Cesar.)

    https://twitter.com/krolljvar/status/864192533068369920

  • Anna

    (Also, this just shows how, when a role and a project are good/promising enough, there are always news about who else was in the race for directing/acting in it. Contrary to what some here tried to explain to me the other day during our convo about Underwater.)

  • Eme

    Well. no one can beat the original Swedish production of the Dragon Tattoo movie trilogy or Noomi Rapace who played Lisbeth Salander. Period.

  • Anna

    Agree.
    But Rooney Mara did do a great job, as well.
    I liked both films for different reasons.
    (Although, tbh, it’s better to risk with a project like that one than with something like Underwater.)

  • Alfred Birchall

    Claire Foy ( Who didn’t get the Bafta last night ) is a bloody good actress. She always reminded me of Kristen physically when they were both younger. Her career has had a few false starts and her foray to Hollywood in a horror film with Nicolas cage was a big mistake .She has solidified her status in UK both Theatre and TV . The Crown with Netflix has given her opportunities thanks to Netflix..

  • Anna

    Yup! She gained respect (in the US) as an actress thanks to that show, won awards and now all doors are open for her. And she seems fully determined to use all opportunities she may get. She’s just starting. For real this time.

  • Eme

    Didn’t see the Daniel Craig/Rooney Mara version because, for me, the Swedish version (all 3 films) was so perfect and hit all the high marks in the novels that I didn’t need to see another version. I’ll take your word that Rooney Mara did a great job as she is a very good actress.
    As far as Claire Foy and any of the other actresses being considered (Felicity Jones and Lily James!!!!) – it’s a no for me as none of them have that dark edge that Noomi Rapace had in the Swedish films.

  • Alfred Birchall

    Felicity Jones is too old and too vanilla for GWDT . How lily james could ven be considered Loved her in Downton Abbey and even better in War and Peace but she is too Cinderella for a hard edge role like this one.There are loads of others would do it justice just not them

  • Eme

    Totally agree.

  • Anna

    For someone who didn’t read those books before seeing the film, Fincher’s version was slightly better because it filled some blanks Swedish version had (probably because they thought those details were unnecessary).
    But what Swedish series got much better is authenticity of it all. Which is expected because, well, the story happens in their country. And also, not having well known actors (at least not to me) made it easier to just follow the story, if ykwim.

  • Anna

    Exactly my thoughts. But those two are obviously better regarded than other actresses for whatever reason.

  • Eme

    The Swedish version followed the novels very closely. Noomi Rapace was perfection in them; Michael Nyqvist (who I think is Swedish but don’t take my word for that) took a little getting used to because I pictured his character looking totally differently, but he was also great in it. And agree that the production was pretty authentic.

  • Alfred Birchall

    As a young actress she did the usual route thru TV BBC Dickens Little Dorritt was her first “Noticed” role. She did a series with Sam Claflin that was acclaimed .Most of her stuff has been serious and she was in the running for a Bafta for Wolf Hall where she played Ann Boleyn. The thing about The Crown reception in UK is that we have been brought up with a certain reverence for The Royals and this series was factually accurate but never boring She did a good job IMO

  • Anna

    I read the books after I saw those films (both, the Swedish series and the US one) and I saw Swedish series first (all 3 films) before watching Fincher’s movie. I remember I had some questions about certain things while watching the first Swedish film that kept bugging me (just some details about characters’ motivation behind some decisions they made but nothing major). I mean, the storytelling is that good it forces you to think and analyze the case on your own so that’s how I ended up with those questions. Fincher’s movie got those covered. But, at the same time, it kinda americanized some of the things (they weren’t bad, though) which I didn’t like having seen how Swedish did it. So, all said and done, if I absolutely have to choose I’ll go with the Swedish series.
    As for actors/actresses … they were all great.

  • Eme

    I haven’t read the book this sequel is based on. And how they’re going to fill in the gaps that are obviously going to be there because the other two books didn’t get filmed will be interesting – but not interesting enough for me to want to see the production. But that’s my bias showing.

  • Anna

    KSF also closed after you became a fan but I won’t go there ;P

  • Anna

    Based on what I’ve heard, the 4th book isn’t nearly as good as the first 3 so ……… But they still can write solid script based on it (fixing the bad parts and all that).
    Lisbeth is one hell of a good female character, that’s for sure.

  • Eme

    See that’s the difference that I always see in comparing foreign films and U.S. films. The foreign films don’t spoon feed you – they make you think which, unfortunately with few exceptions, the U.S. films don’t. That’s why films like Certain Women always get reviewed with “it won’t be for everyone” or “there’s little action” because those kind of films make you think. And that is one of the reasons I didn’t go see the American version of The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. Didn’t want to mess up a good thing in my head.

  • Eme

    True that!!!

  • Eme

    Oh, didn’t know about that site or that it closed. So that’s 3. LOL!!

  • Anna

    I understand.
    It was easier to follow Fincher’s movie (which, honestly, *is* good) as you know more about where the characters are coming from. I had more issues with “americanized” parts of it (but I also get why they did it as some things in Europe function differently).

  • Eme

    And too bad Noomi Rapace is older now because I would definitely go see any sequel that she plays Lisbeth, js.

  • Anna

    That one was the most popular one (for pics). Brazilian site fills their role now.

  • Anna

    Same.
    It’s sad she doesn’t have bigger career now, though.

  • Eme

    Yeah. I only know of one other film she starred in (can’t remember the name but Michael Fassbender and Charlize Theron were in it and it was a sci fi movie) and I liked her in that also. I think she is a really terrific actress and wish she did have a bigger career because I would go see her in anything.

  • Anna

    Her latest film was just released (like, a weeks or two ago) and it got mixed to negative reviews, as far as I know. She’s seems to be stuck in “I’m being typecasted all the time” hell.

  • Eme

    Oh, what film was that? Didn’t know about that one.

  • Alfred Birchall

    You are thinking of Prometheus .Two years ago I think. saw her in a Rolling Stones vid ( Cant remember which one) _ Just like Kristen only she got naked in that one.(Glad K didn’t go down that road ) Its funny how careers work out . See I don’t see Emma Stone transitioning from what she already is. Go to girl for love interest and Quirk if required.Lots of pigeon holes that I don’t see K ever fitting into. JMO

  • Anna

    Emma S. has one or two projects that might get her out of that pigeon hole, though. Time will tell.

  • nonA

    funny! yes you’re the one, ha!

    it seems like the fans are winding down. but it really couldn’t keep going at the fever pitch that it was during Twilight. and Kristen does not want that level of obsession (never did). her tween fans grew up over the last 10 yrs, started careers & families. Kristen does seem very happy regardless of the loss of her obsessers.

    (heck even JLaw isn’t as ‘big’ as she once was (until next awards season anyway))

  • Eme

    Yes, that’s the one. Thank you, Sue B. I would have been wracking my brain all day trying to remember the title!
    I agree about Emma Stone’s roles as being of the same color (although, I didn’t see Birdman and that’s the film that I think got her acting creds/noticed.

  • Anna

    Fandom isn’t just winding down, it’s completely disappearing.

  • Eme

    Cute, nonA!!
    And, honestly, I’m glad I missed out on all that Twilight madness and that the level of obsession is winding down for Kristen. Wish what remains of the haters would also disappear.

  • Eme

    Some of us are still here, Anna. Js.

  • Anna

    Unlocked. It’s was released in the UK, Sept 1st is the date for US.

  • Anna

    Yes we are. But we are more of a group of fans than a real fandom. There’s difference.

  • Eme

    Thank you. I’ll goggle it to see what’s what.

  • Anna

    You are welcome.

  • Eme

    Yes, I know. And I’d rather be part of this group than a *fandom* because there was some batshit crazy from what I hear back in the heyday.

  • Alfred Birchall

    The Rolling Stones vid is Doom and Gloom .Bit near the knuckle actually So K vid was tame by comparison. Lol. I see K career panning out possibly with her easing down on starring headline type roles. Although PS may change that trajectory in the immediate future. I believe she is only going to consolidate her involvement wether directing or acting in future projects she is avid about K doesn’t fit the usual expectations as far as I am concerned .I think Jennifer Lawrence has already peaked in what she is good at. Maybe more like Amy Adams career. Apart from Twi K is not an engenue actor Lots of possibilities in the future .

  • Anna

    Sadly, the craziest among them (you know, remains of once huge Robsten fandom) are still here — now acting worse than regular haters. And what’s even sadder is that they make the biggest group of “fans” now.

  • Eme

    Crossing fingers and Hope Train riding that all you say for Kristen comes true, Sue B.!

  • nonA

    that is a side benefit. but many of those are so immature they’ll keep obsessing. strange how the shippers will keep hating on both Rob and Kristen for years, when they could be respectful decent fans of both, since both are doing interesting work!

  • Eme

    Um, okay. Robsten is a fandom that liked and wanted Robert and Kristen together, right – thus, the *Robsten* name? And they are acting worse than regular haters because? Sorry, I get most of my info about the fandom here so obviously I’m flying blind here.

  • Eme

    Ah, maybe you answered my question I posed to Anna about the *Robsten* fandom.
    And I honestly don’t understand that level of *thinking* and *logic*. I mean, both of them have moved on and appear to be quite happy in their lives and aren’t stuck in their past. So that level of commitment to a fantasy about two people is, in a word . . . . *mental*.

  • Anna

    Yes, Robsten is shippers’ name for Kristen and Pattinson.
    Because they can’t stand the fact those two didn’t fulfilled their fantasies so all that anger and disappointed is now aimed against both of them (they hate who they have “become”). To them, Kristen is a sellout (because she’s showing PDA now), for example.

  • Eme

    Thank you, Anna. Poor them. It must hurt their minds to have all that anger and disappointment swirling inside. Hopefully, someday they can move forward and leave all that behind them. But, maybe not. Sad.

  • Anna

    To be fair, it’s not only (ex) Robsten fandom that can’t move on.
    For example, two days ago I saw numerous “HBD Rob” posts on my timeline from Kristen’s fans (which is a good thing, don’t get me wrong — I mean, how wishing someone well can be something bad, right?) while others were quiet when it comes to that talking about whatever was happening at the moment. Basically, one more usual day in the fandom. Do you know what happened on Kristen’s bday in *that* other fandom? Not only that they haven’t been quiet doing their own thing, some of them were wishing her the exact opposite of good things (and those “some” aren’t irrelevant fans either, they are quite well known and respected fans in that fandom and are getting no backlash what so ever for their behavior – on the contrary).
    So you see, too many people can’t move on.

  • Anna

    You are welcome.
    And I doubt they’ll move on. Anyway ……………………..

  • Eme

    *That* other fandom being Rob’s? So, they still hate on Kristen because she exists?! Whoa. No words. And, how can one be *well known* and *respected* with that behavior. And be respected by whom? Where would the backlash come from? Kristen’s fans? Some of us don’t have Twitter but, I guess, you’re point is that those Kristen fans who do didn’t speak up?
    You don’t have to answer, Anna. I’m just curious because I don’t understand that level of being a *fan*. I like my laid back fan level, thank you very much. Wow.

  • Anna

    Yes, that’s *that* fandom.
    And yes, they are still spending days tracking Kristen down and talking about whatever is happening to/with her. Some of them know more than I do (like, for real).
    How can they be respected? IDK. They, as a fandom, see no problem with hating her, they think she deserves it all (even those who aren’t publicly talking about it — somehow, people on twitter forget that others can see the tweets they are liking and not only those they are re-tweeting). For example, one of them said Kristen might have AIDS (she actually tweeted that as a reply to one of tabs) when we got those pics of her and St. Vincent after she had blood work done (in Oct/Nov last year, remember). There are good fans in that fandom, don’t get me wrong (just as there are bad fans in our fandom), but they are quiet and almost never fight against the hate in their own group. So the backlash I mentioned was in regard to *that* fandom.

  • Eme

    How the hell did they know she had blood work done?! That is privileged medical information and if I were Kristen I’d go after whoever *leaked* that info legally. And what a hateful, hateful thing to say about anyone.
    Okay, I’m done. Don’t want to know anymore about *that* fandom, the hate, the mental illness that is rampant in those that find it okay to be so vile. Black hearts, all of them.

  • Anna

    She had a bandaid or whatever on her hand, it was obvious.
    That wasn’t the first time we got pics of her after she’s done with medical checkup and she has those every time she’s about to go back on set after not working for longer period of time (I think the only year we missed those pics and/or tweets about it was 2015).
    So, that’s not the issue here (blame paps). It’s their comments. I mean, how evil one has to be to even think about something like that person?!
    I just wish good apples in that group, because they exist, were much louder than the bad ones.
    Anyway, as you said, lets wrap this convo up.

  • Anna
  • Eme

    Yes, when I read that about the blood work just now I immediately thought it was because she was going to start filming and needed a medical check up, standard practice in HW. But, yeah, to go from that to a comment about Kristen having Aids is just vileness personified. This is when I want karma to hit, js. Convo wrapped. Thanks, Anna.

  • Anna

    It’s not only those murals anymore.
    MCR, I think you will be safe there in Canada. LOL

    https://twitter.com/prettymagicx/status/864212895827099650

  • Anna
  • Eme

    LOL!!

  • Eme

    Oh, that’s nice it’s getting another theater run even if it is only one week. This must be in New York, right?

  • Anna

    Weekend BO final numbers:
    PS — $3,536 (from 6 theater, one *less* than last weekend, PTA: $589) for new domestic total of $1,285,774.

    https://twitter.com/boxofficemojo/status/864229709260898304

  • Anna

    No, Toronto.

  • Eme

    Oh, DUH!!! I’m surprised you didn’t LOL me, Anna!! So, I’ll LOL myself!!! Hahaha!!!

  • Anna

    And SMH @ BO Mojo (or maybe that was IFC’s fault): few days ago they said PS will be in one more theater not one less compared to last weekend.
    Anyway, CW’s theatrical run ended after 10 weekends. This was PS’ 10th so ……………..

  • Eme

    FU, IFC!!!

  • Anna

    No, why would I LOL @ you. Many people aren’t good with all these film festival acronyms (TIFF, in this case). It’s not like you don’t have enough of other things to memorize. So, we’re cool 🙂

  • Anna

    It could have reached that $1.3M mark, darn it!

  • Eme

    Yup.

  • Eme

    Well, I cracked myself up because, you know, TIFF – as in Toronto International Film Festival!!! Anyways, I thought it was funny and would have laughed if you had LOL’d me!! Laughter is great medicine – especially when one can laugh at oneself for some absurd mistake!!!
    Yeah, we’re cool! 🙂

  • MCR

    I don’t really get the impression she’s misjudged by her colleagues. Directors and other actors frequently comment on her talent. It’s mostly “outsiders” who have a false perception, I think.

  • MCR

    In more ways than one! 😉

  • Anna

    OK then, I’ll laugh at you now. LOL

  • Eme

    See, it was pretty funny!!!

  • Anna

    I sure hope so.
    But, as she doesn’t network nor is mixing with them all that much (meaning, she’s not attending house or bday parties in LA, she’s not member of any private clubs and such, ect.) I think people who didn’t have a chance to work with her or meet her in person and have a chat with her (like Melissa, for example) might have somewhat twisted perception of her (because, in Kristen’s case the *whole* media went against her and when *everyone* is saying the same thing about someone, people can’t not wonder if it might be the truth after all — once you start wondering …………………).

  • Anna

    True that!

  • csm123

    Felicity Jones ? I was expecting her to be getting better offers than a Dragon Tattoo reboot that has so much working against it.

  • csm123

    Not always. A lot of the time studios have specific actors in their minds and then they go and get them. Sony’s Dragon Tattoo reboot is a dumpster fire and not many A-list actresses would want to replace Rooney Mara in a role that got her an Oscars nomination. The fans have moved on and Fede Alvarez is no David Fincher.

  • Eme

    Yes, you are and I, for one, am very envious. Sigh. Can I come live with you?

  • Eme

    I mean, at least your prime minister is not only easy on the eyes, but he talks and people understand him!! What a concept!!

  • Eme

    And . . . he’s sane.

  • Anna

    And when that happens (studio wanting one specific actor/actress), we know it as that info usual leaks too. Neither happened with Underwater.

    True, many things are working against it. But it also can turn out to be solid (not great as Fincher’s but still OK). Either way, it’s far better to risk with something like that than with Underwater.

  • Anna

    She followed her Oscar nom with a Star Wars movie and critically acclaimed performance in another film. She’s fine.

  • csm123

    . These kind of leaks happen most often with big fanboy properties when the actors in contention are relatively not well-known. The studios will leak names as a trial balloon to gauge the fan reaction. The agents of these actors are also fine with the leaks because even if their clients don’t get the role it puts their name out there. They are less common when the actors in contention are more high-profile for non-fanboy properties and there is no incentive to leak this information.

  • csm123

    I am sure she is fine and I am also sure that Dragon Tattoo sequel is doomed. They’ve waited too long and it is completely absurd to replace an actress like Rooney, who got an Oscar nomination for the role, with an unknown like Claire Foy. The source material is also controversial. Most fans don’t even consider it to be a legitimate sequel to the Dragon Tattoo trilogy.

  • Anna

    I know many cases that contradict what you just said. Because, you forget one thing: people who are getting those scoops. some of them are *really* good at obtaining those information regardless of studios’ are agents’ wishes.
    Anyway, it’s obvious we disagree about this so it’s pointless continuing this discussion. I don’t want to regret unblocking you.

  • csm123

    Hundreds of casting decisions are made every year so obviously there will be instances of leaks that don’t conform to the pattern but there is no incentive for any party to leak casting info on a movie like Underwater.

  • Anna

    Because it was never hot/promising commodity. Anyway …………………

  • csm123

    No, because there is no incentive for anyone involved to leak any casting info on an original IP.

  • Anna

    There are many original IPs that caused massive interest within the industry (and thus related info leaked).
    Underwater simply isn’t particularly good story/script/concept for anyone to be truly interested in it.
    Now I’m *really* done!

  • csm123

    Information doesn’t leak just because there is interest. It leaks when people involved have an interest in leaking it. Leaks come from production and agents for reasons I have pointed out in my post above. In Underwater’s case I doubt there were any auditions for the lead role like you have for a big fanboy property.

  • Anna

    Article says studio considered her, not that she was interested (we don’t know whether she was or wasn’t) so I guess her radar for projects is still working just fine.

  • Anna

    Honey, those meetings don’t happen in a vacuum. People see things. People connect the dots. And people talk.

  • csm123

    What are you even talking about ? Casting news comes from trades and there are fewer than a dozen reporters who report these things. I can even name them if you want me to. They have build relationships with agents, producers and studio executives that go back years. They don’t leak anything that these people don’t want them to leak. Fanboy properties are a different issue because there are dozens of websites and fan forums who are actively seeking out casting news specially for big super hero movies or star wars etc. A lot of these guys also have contacts all over the industry and they are looking for scoops. That’s where most fanboy leaks come from. I don’t know what you are trying to argue wrt. Underwater but it doesn’t fit any pattern of movies that leak info.

  • Anna

    Deep Water Horizon didn’t fit that pattern. Neither did Annihilation. To name just those two. And yet we got info who were other actors in the mix for leading roles in those projects.
    I know very well who those people working for trades are, thank you very much. I’ve been following them for years.
    Let me give you one example of what I’m talking about. It’s not movie casting news but it’s similar enough. A person who is not a journalist but knows one accidentally sees big TV channel/news corp executive having a meeting/lunch with certain TV host. That person mentions that to journalist friend who then does a bit of digging and connects the dots. Next day journalist tweets about that just as an info from a source, nothing officially confirmed. Two weeks later announcement is made: that host got the job. This happened quite recently. So, you see, people talk. And when what they have to share is interesting/big enough piece of information, it gets reported, in one way or the other.
    As for trades vs. less formal casting news channels like those fansites, now even trades are starting to use the info those other people are posting as “rumors”. It can be quite a mess. Because everyone wants to be the first to report stuff.
    My point being: Underwater was never good enough to attract attention of people so they would start snooping around/connecting the dots/playing the guessing game. You are constantly trying to convince me that it’s better project than I think it is instead of simply accepting my opinion as such — an opinion (that I, by the look of things, won’t change any time soon if ever).
    For the last time — running in circles might be fun for you but it sure as hell isn’t for me.

  • Anna

    @dili_dali_
    20 year old me kept my cool but the 13 year old in me was definitely squealing
    #kristenstewart #SQUEE #nobiggie

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BUJAVDuh1lR/?taken-by=dili_dali_

  • Anna
  • MCR

    LOL I think you have to stay and fight back if you can. I *hope* we don’t get to the point of having to offer sanctuary to American refugees.

  • MCR

    Nice, discreet pose by Kristen.

  • MCR

    ROTFL Doesn’t seem like so much to expect, does it?

  • Anna
  • Anna
  • Anna

    New pics.

    Kristen on set.

  • Anna

    (I swear, cigarettes are becoming like another part of her body. She just can’t let them go not even for a second. SMH)

  • Anna
  • Anna

    “Kruger will play Eva, a French actress who brings JT to Paris, falls for him, then helps turn his life story into a film.”

    So, basically, Diane will play Kristen’s love interest?

  • Anna

    Again no Franco in that writeup (unless they update it), neither as actor nor as one of producers.

  • Anna

    (Kristen can’t escape Paris nor that French connection. LOL)

  • Anna

    July (the 10th per PW) start date confirmed.

  • OG Guest

    It’s the Asia Argento character. They appear to have changed the name. But yes, her love interest.

  • csm123

    Even bigger news is that Cassian Elwes is now on board as a producer. Julie Yorn has been on board since the very beginning and she has a first look deal with Studio 8.

  • Anna

    Asia is Italian, right?
    Hmmm. Not sure I like the fact they are feeling free to change that kind of details. Well, it’s not a detail either, it’s a big part of the story.
    Anyway, it seems all 3 new films Kristen now has will be, in one way or the other, lesbian love stories, From one kind of typecasting to another. Sigh.

  • Anna

    Cassian is a miss with a hit once in a blue moon. So, basically, meh.

  • OG Guest

    They’re probably just changing the name. Asia already disapproved of the project and they may want to avoid further controversy.

    Did you read the second draft of Underwater?

  • csm123

    Asia Argento has denied parts of the story so they can’t use her name without her permission. Gus Van Sant will probably in the movie as himself as will a few other actors/celebrities. Carrie Fisher has died so they will have to change her story too.

  • csm123

    He is a good producer who makes good movies. If you want only hits then you work with Disney.

  • Anna

    Oh, right. I totally forgot how pissed she was when they first announced it. A mess.

    No. And I probably will just leave it there. I’m disappointed enough by it as it is, no need to add to it. But you can’t escape spoilers when talking to people. So you can say I know the basics.

  • OG Guest

    Shhh, we don’t discuss good signs in connection with this project.

  • OG Guest

    Well, you know people who did read the revised draft?

  • Anna

    Maybe Carrie’s family can give them permission but yeah, they’ll probably will stay away from that.
    Which only diminishes potential of that film, in a way (that whole case is interesting precisely because of all those celebrities who were duped).

  • Anna

    Couple of them, yes.

  • OG Guest

    Why don’t you share with the class what you’ve heard?

  • Eme

    Yes. And the fan & her comment are too cute!

  • Anna

    QoTD wasn’t a good move. Elvis & Nixon, Cabin Fiver, Submerged, and so on and on (that’s just films I’ve heard of and know he produced them; going through IMDb list would probably give me many more to add to that list). Yes, he produced some solid films, namely Dallas Buyers Club and now Mudbound but, as I said, that’s once in a blue moon.

  • Anna

    No one happier than me to talk about those signs — when they appear.

  • OG Guest

    (And I know what you think regarding quality, I’m talking about plot)

  • Anna

    We don’t talk about plot details of movies that are already out like, idk, PS so I definitely won’t talk about film that’s still being filmed. Nice try, though.

  • csm123

    Also Blue Valentine, The Butler, All is Lost, Lawless,Ain’t Them Bodies Saints, I origins and more in the last 5 years. Nobody bats a 1.000 but he is a good producer with industry cred. Elwes/Yorn may be the best producers team Kristen has worked with in the past 5-6 years. That doesn’t guarantee anything but it shows confidence in the project.

  • Eme

    You would think so. But, sigh, apparently not in America.

  • Eme

    Yes, #resist. But I swear it’s getting harder by the minute. But fight the good fight I will.

  • OG Guest

    Idk what you mean by “nice try” when you’re the one dropping cryptic “insider” hints and I’m just asking what you heard. If you don’t want to discuss it, don’t discuss it at all instead of starting to discuss it and then being rude about it when people ask.

  • Anna

    Good examples. But look at their directors. It’s mix of factors.

    “…the best producers team Kristen has worked with in the past 5-6 years.” Are you being serious now? Look at Charles’ cred. Tod Haynes’. Christine Vachon’s. And so on. Please, I know you like to make me laugh but try to maintain some level of factual sanity.

  • Anna

    This is honestly becoming “WTH does it take for people to remove him from that position” kind of situation. I mean, every day there’s new affair and yet nothing changes.

  • csm123

    Charles and Vachon have also made bad movies but as far as the producing teams go Yorn and Elwes are the best team Kristen has worked with in years. Yorn has worked in the studio system and Elwes has worked on the indie side. They will complement each other well and if it is a good movie the chances are good that they will land a good distribution deal. That has been something of an Achilles heel for Kristen in recent years.

  • Anna

    Rude? Just because I don’t won’t to discuss plot details with you? OK, if you say so. LOL
    It’s not insider anything. I said I have negative opinion about the movie based on things I know (majority of them publicly available). You can agree with it or disagree or whatever. Frankly, you are not a person (from here) whose opinion matters to me.

  • OG Guest

    It is indeed rude to act like you know things and drop hints but then refuse to elaborate and try to act like those who ask you for details are up to something.

    And again, I wasn’t asking about quality. You’ve made your thoughts clear. You made a statement regarding the love interest and that’s why I was asking what you knew because what I read had no female love interest.

  • Anna

    Movie with this subject, unless it becomes huge awards player (extremely slim chances for that) will quite possibly never get good actual release (meaning, good promo, decent number of theaters, ect.) — it’s too niche and, well, polarizing. And may I remind you that even good distribution companies tend to mess it up big time. We saw it all with Kristen. So, there are no guarantees for anything with the kind pf films she chooses.
    Elwes’ movies usually get lousy distribution deals. As for Yorn, her studio films (which JT LeRoy isn’t so there’s no point in talking about that fact as if it matters but OK) are, well, meh (big time). So, you see, they are not anything special, IMO. They won’t open any doors for Kristen.

  • Eme

    This is about the ruling party putting party before country. *He* still has high approval rates from his supporters & until that changes, Republicans won’t “rock the boat” no matter what. So, basically we’re screwed. Enough said.

  • Eme

    Gosh, I didn’t realize she had played in so many films as I thought she was primarily a model. And, I never saw The Bridge but it was critically acclaimed so I am stoked to see this development.

  • Anna

    People said the same thing (“she’s talking BS”) when I talked about BLLHW being bad (and I only mentioned it almost a month after I noticed first hints about it because I wanted to be sure before talking about it) and yet, in the end, we all know what happened.
    Granted, this time it’s just my *opinion* based on people involved and what I know about that script and not on rumors about finished thing so it’s not exactly the same.
    So, again, I don’t see anything rude about that. It’s not my fault you consider everyone who dares to think differently from you rude.

  • Anna

    Pretty much that.. They are willing to go down with that ship rather then admitting they made a mistake. Sad.

  • Eme

    Yup. Again, we’re screwed.

  • Anna

    I don’t know why, but her films tend to mostly go under the radar. I see her all the time at big film festivals but after that, those movies somehow get lost.

  • OG Guest

    Lol you continue to miss my point. I’m not debating you on quality here. You made a statement regarding the love interest – that is not related to quality. That’s why I asked you if you read the script and to elaborate on what you say you know. I was not asking about how good or bad you think it will be.

  • Eme

    Well, the critics loved The Bridge which was a TV series and not a film & she was singled out as being quite good in it. I’m going to find it & binge watch to get a better take on her.

  • Anna

    That about love interest . . . it was implied in one of convos I had. So, to be fair, I don’t know for a fact that “detail” (maybe I just should read the darn thing myself). That’s why yes, you are right, I shouldn’t have counted Underwater as a film with definitively lesbian relationship. That leaves us with 2 films and possibly the third one.

  • Anna

    She’s mostly good, from what I know. But her performances are rarely gaining traction. It’s quite odd.

  • Eme

    Well, it’ll be interesting to see how this all plays out for her, Kristen, & the rest of the cast. Still don’t know about James F. If he’s no longer attached, I wonder who will play his role.

  • OG Guest

    That’s all I was asking. FYI what I read had no female love interest. There was not really much romance, period.

  • Anna

    Yeah. Tbh, I have trouble imagining them together in that way. Don’t know why. I’m getting different vibes from them. But they are actresses, after all, so maybe they’ll manage to create good chemistry.

    Franco is a mystery. You would think, with starting date being less than two months away, this whole mess re his involvement got cleared up by now but no. That’s James Franco for ya.

  • Eme

    I’m not a fan so ……………

  • Anna