Kristen Stewart at PFW Chanel Launches Its New Perfume ‘Gabrielle’ At Palais De Tokyo FallWinter 2017-2018 on July 4

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Kristen Stewart attends the launch party for Chanel’s new perfume ‘Gabrielle’ as part of Paris Fashion Week on July 4, 2017 in Paris, France.

  • Anna
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    Oh my!

    @maria_taranenko_elle_russia
    Кристен Стюарт стала лицом нового аромата Gabrielle, Chanel. Миниатюрная (на фото я без каблуков, в полуприседе, старательно сутулюсь, но это не помогает), с просто гипнотически-красивыми глазами и железной волей. Так, в одном из кадров ролика она прыгает и “взлетает”. Для этого к ней, обнаженной, привязали лонж. После каждого “полета” Кристен отсматривала снятый материал и, недовольная, требовала сделать еще один дубль. “В итоге, после 16-ти прыжков режиссёр с оператором взмолились. Но я остановилась только когда увидела, что лонж до крови стер мне плечо, – признается эта перфекционистка, – Зато мы добились идеальной картины полета в прыжке”. Полностью наша беседа будет опубликована в октябрьском ELLE. На мой же вопрос о личном впечатлении от нового аромата Gabrielle, Chanel, Кристи ответила кратко: “Pretty!” И, пожалуй, это самая точная и меткая характеристика данной новинки.

    Google translation:
    Kristen Stewart became the face of the new fragrance Gabrielle, Chanel. Miniature (in the photo I’m without heels, in the semicircle, carefully stooping, but it does not help), with just hypnotic-beautiful eyes and iron will. So, in one of the frames of the clip [ad] she jumps and “takes off”. For this, to her, naked, tied the bench. After each “flight” Kristen looked at the footage and, unsatisfied, demanded to make another take. “In the end, after 16 jumps the director and the operator pleaded, but I stopped only when I saw that the longe blew my shoulder to the blood,” this perfectionist admits. “But we achieved the ideal picture of the flight in the jump.” Completely our conversation will be published in the October ELLE. On my own question about the personal impression of the new fragrance Gabrielle, Chanel, Kristen replied briefly: “Pretty!” And, perhaps, this is the most accurate and accurate description of this novelty.

  • Anna

    People commenting on that pic don’t get how she can be face of Chanel. One person simply can’t make that mental connection (and, IMO, that’s fair because many people still can’t) but others are commenting on how she looks too tomboyish and unsophisticated next to that journalists (they didn’t use so nice words, though) which, in their eyes, makes her unworthy of Chanel.

    Now, I know you will say those people are superficial and whatnot (and I do agree) but, see, 80% of all comments on fashion blogs/instagram/YT channels are exactly like that (they either don’t get it but tolerate it or openly hate it/her). Why does it matter? Chanel picked Kristen with intention to attract young consumers aka millennials. Now, market studies are showing that particular population (roughly between 18 and 30 year olds) decides what to buy based on: a) recommendations of people in their life they trust; b) user reviews and comments on those already mentioned fashion blogs/instagrams/YT channels of their choice and c) their own personal preferences and tastes (re product itself and the way and where and how it’s being sold, ect.).
    The kind of posts I just mentioned above, especially when they are so dominant which is true in Kristen’s case, are off-putting for everyone. And that *does* affect sales.

    Anyway, more about that a bit later ……………..

  • Anna

    (Can you remember if she *ever* looked this down during any of previous Chanel events she attended. I can’t, tbh. Sigh.)

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DECxRixXkAEmaCW.jpg

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    juliannemooreI love her. #aurevoirparis @chanelofficial @georgenorthwood @marywilesmakeup #karllagerfeld #chanel #wowitwashotinthere #grandpalais

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    @mdmolinari
    @trufflesliders Is my blonde too yellow 🐣🐥?

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BWM0rd5FNCG/

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    Gabrielle fragrance reviews update:

    Because it’s available in Chanel’s boutiques since yesterday, more people had chance to sample it and things aren’t looking good.
    First reactions were mixed but now are mostly negative (average score is now close to 3 out of 5 which is similar to being close to rotten status on RT). If I have to pin it down, people are simply disappointed and backlash is coming. Reviews are saying that Gabrielle isn’t that bad per se, it’s just way too ordinary, way too similar scent to so many other (much cheaper) perfumes and is way below Chanel’s quality level without anything to set it apart or help it rise above direct competition. The fact it’s their first new fragrance in 15 years got people’s hopes up and now that it’s out and they didn’t get anything that can come close to Coco Mademoiselle has them . . . mad. Irrational reaction, I know, but those people are fans of perfumes (and they know them and the market so well).
    It’s still possible that ladies will like Gabrielle but, the way things are shaping up right now, it won’t become another successful story for Chanel. Having Kristen of all people as it’s face starring in what might be quite risky ad (based on that post bellow) won’t help either.

    We’ll see.

  • Anna

    (Long post below so, please, skip if you aren’t into reading my thoughts.)

    I don’t have a crystal ball so I don’t know what will happen in the future so this is JMO + educated guess: possible fail of Gabrielle fragrance will affect Kristen’s contract with Chanel.
    I have no proof of this so, again, it’s just a guess, but I think she has 1 + 2 years contract for this perfume. Meaning, 1 full year + 2 additional years as an option for Chanel (an extension that depends on how Gabrielle will do on the market vs. Chanel’s business projections/expectations).
    I think this Ombre Premiere campaign and next FW 2017/18 makeup campaign are both part of her old 3 years long contract (both were done last Oct, which was the end of her 3rd year, even though they are being released only now). During that old contract, she did campaigns every spring (well, every Feb so it’s technically winter) and fall (Oct/Nov). For example, in Feb 2014 she had her first shoot for Paris-in-Dallas collection and then in Oct/Nov that same year (2014) she did eyewear (glasses) SS 2015 campaign; spring 2015 was reserved for her first bag ad and fall that year for Eye Can Be and Rogue makeup collections; my favorite shoot for Paris-in-Rome line was done in Feb 2016 while, as I already said, this newest ads for Ombre eyeshadows and FW collection were done in Oct 2016 followed with Gabrielle bag and fragrance videos made in Nov. As you can see, pattern is clear: every spring + every fall.
    That leaves us with this year. As far as we know, this is the first spring in 4 years she didn’t do any campaign (but she might surprise us with another new Mario Testino’s ad done in Feb, before she shaved her head — it’s not like she didn’t do that before). If, and that’s a big if, I’m right that means she’s only left with Gabrielle fragrance deal. So, if that one doesn’t workout in the way it makes Chanel satisfied……………….. (Add to that the fact her new hairstyle is making it difficult for Chanel to give her new things to promote; not impossible but not very likely either).

    Simply put, this perfume deal can be compared to being lead in a blockbuster (in the movie industry). All of her previous fashion campaigns were like indies (some nice but tiny as CW — her first bag campaign, for example; other really good and with somewhat wider appeal like CoSM — Paris-in-Rome thing she did; and one or two that tried to go mainstream like Cafe Society — Rogue makeup campaign that people really noticed). When a big movie flops, it leaves a dent in actress’ career. If said actress was good in it and it’s clear to everyone that director is to be blamed, consequences are not long lasting at all and if she was cooperative during filming and did well during promo studio will probably hire her again in a year or two. But if she was in *any* way too demanding or perceived as such during shoot (which Kristen might have been with her insisting to repeat that scene over and over again even though it probably cost a lot to tape it, as that instagram post below suggests) and if she was bad during promo on top of that (like Kristen was 2 days ago) then that actress will, fairly or not, share the blame and her studio days will be over for awhile.
    But, as I said, I have no crystal ball so we’ll have to wait and see.

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    Maybe just bored. I doubt flogging merchandise is her favourite kind of work, and by now it’s also lost its novelty.

  • Anna

    That’s true.
    But, still, how hard it could be to look a bit more animated (at least when she knows her pic is being taken). It’s just couple of minutes and then it’s over. Little sacrifice (although, I don’t think of it as such — to me, it’s just being smart and knowing what is expected from you) that can save her from quite a lot of backlash (be it fair or not).

  • MCR

    I honestly don’t know what to expect from this movie, either in terms of the film itself, or its popularity.

  • Anna

    If you don’t mind me saying this to you, but have (really) low expectations.
    In terms of Kristen’s role, it’s the kind of character that, if/when played well, it brings major awards.
    But everything else surrounding that movie is not good (in some aspects it’s borderline amateurish).
    Think of Cake Eaters. With better director, tighter script and higher production value that movie could have been something. Kristen’s character was a showcase of what a child actress is capable of just like Savannah should be a proof of what talented young actress can do. Long story short, it will probably be another case of solid performance in a below average film.
    But we’ll see.

    (What worries me much more right now is how playing someone like Savannah will affect Kristen. Because Kristen herself isn’t exactly in a good place right now. Ugh.)

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  • BrendaStar

    Very French pic of Olivier, IMO. Hope that Eme sees it : )

  • MCR

    That sounds like a fair assessment of the movie’s potential. The Cake Eaters is a good example; a lot of her work involves a good performance in a minor or underrated movie. Although it’s such an odd project, it could go either way.

    As for her not being in a good place, if you mean personally or emotionally, I don’t think either of us can know that.

  • Anna

    Well yeah, not often crazy and provoking/problematic/polarizing real life stories like this one about JT get to be turned into movies so the risk is particularly high with this project.

    We talked about that before. You are coming from a POV that says: because we don’t *know* anything, it’s better not to speculate. I, on the other hand, have a need to comment on all the things I’m seeing and to say my opinion about it based on everything we’ve learned by closely watching and following Kristen for years (some even for almost a decade). Bottom line, we do agree, basically, as I’m not claiming anything for a fact but I do think that, just like we talk about good stuff that make us happy to be her fan, we also should have an opportunity to discuss things that bother or worry us.

  • MCR

    I’m all for discussing the negative stuff. That she smokes like a chimney, curses like a sailor on leave, and can’t pose for a photograph, for example. I just don’t see any basis for it in this case.
    You’ve several times in the past posted worries about her being in a seriously bad emotional state, and hinted she might be on drugs, headed for a breakdown, ready to stop working, or whatever. I don’t think any of them have turned out to be true, so far. Doesn’t mean it could never happen, but the false alarms suggest you might be misreading her a bit.
    At worst, I see her looking impassive during her promotional appearances, and dressing just a little more shabby-on-purpose than usual. With that kind of non-information, yes, I think there’s no cause for speculation.

  • BrendaStar

    LOL, you are sure to get my attention when you invite people to skip your innermost thoughts. I am not much interested in perfume. I truly do love my Florabotanica which was purchased online without ever sampling it. I was not sure about Gabrielle, but the negative response from aficionados who are bored by it has decided it for me. I have to buy it!! It truly will not be a boring fragrance to me. I hope it finds an audience. If not, all is not over for Kristen or Channel IMO.

  • ME

    If she is going to do a shitty job, I’m glad it’s for this.

    Imo, perfume sells itself, not the brand and not the spokesperson. You either like the smell or you don’t.

    I personally think her makeup campaigns are the best. She has a beautiful face and beautiful eyes, so a good palette for makeup. And because makeup is actually affordable fans can buy it. I believe the makeup sold well too.

  • Anna

    It’s not my goal to be right, MCR. Especially not when things look bad (to me).
    I do think she was in an obviously bad place during and after she finished filming Lizzie (up until late January) just like I think she was not her usual self this time in Paris. As for drugs, she smokes pot. A lot and often, I think. Almost the first thing she did after arriving in NOLA was to go and buy full bag of it (there are pap pics of the whole thing just like there are pics of her smoking it on Lizzie’s set). Pointing that out, the fact that she’s becoming quite reckless when it comes to where she’s smoking it, is not speculating — it’s stating facts.
    It’s my opinion that she is kinda like a ticking bomb and that many things that were pushed under the rug over the years are now resurfacing. In that sense, saying that she needs to learn how to get better control over her emotions/fears/anxiety, because it’s obviously affecting her working/promo performance, is also not a simple speculation.
    As for her stopping working, I was party wrong, yes. Partly because she is preparing to start splitting her time between acting and directing (I prefer seeing her in front of camera).
    There are other things like her attitude during promo junkets and similar stuff.
    I don’t tend to start anything just for the sake of having to talk about something — my rants are always caused by something that is really happening. And yes, sometimes I’m wrong. But I don’t think any of that was ever just a baseless speculation.

  • Anna

    Thanks for reading my musings. LOL

    And I sure hope you are right re Gabrielle, Kristen and Chanel.

  • Anna

    Agree.
    But, successful fragrance campaign wouldn’t be a bad thing either.
    I just hope that those big expectations Chanel is having aren’t part of her contract.

    My favorite shoot is Paris-in-Rome campaign. But, when it comes to exposure, those makeup ads are better. Plus, Mario (and Lucia) are doing good job with them.

  • BrendaStar

    She does have a great face for showing off makeup.

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    It is difficult for me to talk about what other people should do when I personally have not addressed my own fears. I think Tooten suggested the benefits of talking to a psychiatrist on the other board. It probably would be beneficial, but most of us avoid that step. My pastor recently gave a sermon about confronting our fears and how rewarding that can be. All true and I am writing in generalities because I feel I have no right to address anyone including Kristen.

  • Anna

    I understand that, Brenda.
    I just think it would be good for her (and everyone else, if they feel the need) to ask for help. Now, what that help might be is up to her to decide. A professional maybe? Or just someone who has her absolute trust and enough of life experience to really listen to her and give her good advices? It’s not our place to say.
    I mean, all of us here are hoping she will stop smoking and sooner the better. But if we are to blindly follow what all the rules and good manners have to say, that too shouldn’t be something that concerns us (her health is her problem). And yet, I don’t think that anyone posting on this board disagrees when we start criticizing her because of it.
    It’s a fine line to walk.

  • gillian kemp

    If it works with my body chemistry, I will purchase it. I am not sure what was bad about her behavior, appearance or actions during this promo. She looks the same to me. As far as people posting negatively, on instagram, some people live to be negatively.

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    @richardgianorio
    The absolutely graceful Miss #kristenstewart #kstew #crush #beautifulmind #chanel @chanel thank you @elsaheizmann @sophieverges

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BWNvyNaFg44/

  • Anna

    Her hair is . . . different. New shoot?

    And where the hell are they (look at that patio behind them)? Still in Paris?

  • Anna

    Comic Con (San Diego) is happening in 2 weeks time, I think.

    Here’s FOX’s tentative schedule (I was hoping for any kind of news about Underwater but…..):

    https://twitter.com/JLDlite/status/883017648551870464

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    Well, his prediction of their line-up.

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  • MCR

    I can accept that we have two different takes on the same (limited) information. Clearly she’s sensitive and high strung, and gets very emotionally involved in her work. That could eventually become a personal disaster; or she could manage it, possibly use it to her advantage, and have a long and stable (if erratic) career. My guess, based on the fact that she’s already avoided most of the worst excesses typical of child stars, and her serious approach to her work, is that the latter is more likely. But I can understand someone (especially someone with a slightly pessimistic nature 😉) thinking that personal disaster is far more likely, and picking up hints of it where others might not notice. Fair enough?

  • MCR

    She’s fantastic. Especially with the right director. (Todd Haynes + Julianne Moore = magic. But I wish I could find a DVD of Safe.)

  • MCR

    I’m reminded of Julie Andrews in Victor/Victoria.

  • MCR

    That’s my reaction as well: she seems about the same. People pick up on little things I would never notice.

  • Anna

    Hmmm.

  • MCR

    I’m not suggesting that’s what she’s going for LOL.

  • Anna

    OK. Good to know. LOL
    (Although, she is in the final stages of prep for JT so, you know ……….)

  • nonA

    i like your attitude, go with your heart (or nose, in this case!) so if people are ‘mixed/negative’ on the fragrance, or resistant to her being the face of the campaign – Chanel has been doing this so long that they know they are taking an opportunity with her “rebellious” nature – but they’re going for it, so good for all of them.

  • nonA

    great pic of both of them. Kristen relaxes when she’s around Julianne, i think she said J’s a very real/normal person so she stands out in the Hollywood hoopla.

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    Ah – that might be a factor.

  • Anna

    Only now saw your post so sorry for the late reply.

    Fair enough! 🙂
    And your interpretation of her nature is exactly what late James Gandolfini said. Remember that part: “It can be a good thing. And it can be a bad thing.”?
    And I hope you are right. Kristen did manage to avoid typical child star growing up mistakes but, at the same time, she made many others. And, IMO, her lucky star is rarely there for her when she needs it. So, you call all of it pessimism, I say it’s just an attempt to be realistic because too often, too many times to count all the things that could be going wrong do go wrong in her career.

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    @cjscissorhands
    Sitting front row at a Chanel show was not only the highlight of this week, but maybe the highlight of this year. I love you K and the whole Chanel family. I couldn’t have picked a better crew to share this moment with. 😍💯🤘🏽🐩 #chanel #paris

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BWOdLrwFpqX/

  • Eme

    This is a lovely picture of her.

  • Eme

    LOL, MCR. But, you’re right.

  • Eme

    Just now seeing my fav French director channeling all his French genes as if his life depended upon it! He really does look so very French, Brenda. 😉

  • Eme

    Haven’t listened to the podcast (83 minutes, I believe) but, hey, *the* sweater is absent! YES!!

  • Eme

    Hmmm.

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    Tilda S. is so well-spoken and knowledgeable.

  • Eme

    I guess one has to have some special gene to understand what the heck this guy is saying! I don’t speak Comic Con (or whatever, lol!)!

  • Anna

    Sideyeing him hard. That guy (CJ) is just . . . ugh. He’s, intentionally or not, bad influence. But I better shut up because if I start …………………………….

  • Anna

    You should read/watch some of her interviews (well, most of them really). She’s simply brilliant.
    And a reminder how far one can go by embracing and fully fulfilling their potential.
    Which leads us to Kristen. She used to be that one or one of couple of people who seemed so smart and genuine and just cool in those interviews Chanel always makes after their shows. Kristen in that video above compared to others (and her previous appearances)? She made me cringe.

  • Anna

    He’s talking about movies FOX will have special presentations for during their time at Comic Con.

  • Anna

    (I kinda miss *it*. Well, the fun we had with it. Don’t kill me. LOL)

  • gillian kemp

    CJ certainly seems to enjoy life!

  • gillian kemp

    It is a lovely photo. For all her tomboyish ways, Kristen seems so delicate.

  • Anna

    On Kristen’s expense. He didn’t achieve it on merit of his own hard work.

  • Toooten

    I have the feeling he’s more of a leech than a personal assistant, but when I mentioned it on another messageboard a couple of years ago, and I was almost lynched.

  • Anna

    He is a professional leech, you are right about that. When he’s not stuck to Kristen, then he’s with one of her celebrity friends.

  • Eme

    Believe it or not, I miss *it* too because of the fun. Now, if we’re talking about *the* hat . . . that would be another matter entirely, lol.

  • Eme

    Thank you, Anna. I would have never known – I’m no fanboy, lol! (And I didn’t have the patience to figure it out – silly me!!).

  • Eme

    My first thought was “crew”? Every one of those people, as far as I know, because I’m not sure who the brunette is, have a specific function in Kristen’s work life, so . . . . . . . . . . Just saying.

  • Eme

    Yup.

  • Eme

    It does appear that way to me, also. But what do I know.

  • Eme

    I agree. The picture captures that elusive quality of hers.

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    Exactly.
    Guy thinks he’s “someone”. if ykwim. SMH

  • Eme

    Well, he’s someone Kristen wants in her life, so I guess you could say he is “someone”. Oh well. Ugh.

  • Eme

    And with that, I’ll stop because ………………..

  • Anna

    It *is* that way. When he’s not posting pap pics of Kristen, he’s using Chloe Grace Moretz’s. When he’s not leeching on Kristen, he likes to go Katy P.’s parties. When he’s not inviting his co-workers into Kristen’s house (while she’s out of town) to have a fun in her pool, he’s in one his other rich friend’s house doing the same. And that’s just part of it.

  • Anna

    Oh, don’t get me started on what Kristen “wants”.

  • Eme

    Oh, ok. I don’t see that stuff (thank goodness) because I’m not on Twitter or wherever he posts those pics. So, there you go. Receipts.

  • Anna

    We must find new *it* . . . for entertaining purposes only, of course. ;P

  • Eme

    I know, I know. Sorry. I’ll quit now so I won’t provoke you into that convo.

  • Eme

    Don’t worry. The new *it* will appear soon enough! Lol!

  • Anna

    Instagram is where he is most of the time.
    Guy is so freakin’ dumb or profoundly reckless/selfish/self-centered that he posted name of the hotel they were all staying in Paris. I mean, it wasn’t enough for him he got to have direct few to Eiffel Tower from a room he could never ever afford from his own work, he has to brag about it and let the rest of world know. Ugh!!!!!!!!!

  • Eme

    Yeah, I saw that pic of the Eiffel Tower view from the hotel on @adoringKS and my first thought was “it must be nice to have a friend who can afford to pay for that view” and then I chastised myself for being judgemental. But, I didn’t even think about the fact that he was telling the world (i.e., parasites!) where Kristen was staying. Jeez!!

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    Exactly! He freakin’ geo-tagged it! He might as well invited them over for drink. SMH

  • Eme

    I am really liking how her hair is growing out and the color right now – I’m liking the mixture of her actual hair color (I’m guessing?) and the highlights. She looked lovely but it must have been really hot under all those lights!

  • Eme

    Dumb. Just dumb. Gotta go. Bbl.
    By the way, good morning, Anna. I’m back from my travels!!

  • Anna

    Agree. It actually looks really interesting and fun, that mix of colors. And she didn’t even do it on purpose. LOL
    Her face can take/wear it so I don’t mind her short hair at all. What I hate are stupid people and their tasteless jokes about it (I swear, I never knew we were surrounded by so many cavemen).

  • Anna

    It’s not just him being stupid, IMO. It’s . . . far worse.

    I’m glad you made it back home safely. Welcome back! LOL

    Bye!

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  • BrendaStar

    It is amazing to see the craftsmanship that goes into these clothes.

  • BrendaStar

    I think most of your concerns about Kristen being surrounded by enablers are valid. A non-celeb is fortunate to be surrounded by people who let us know when we are being annoying and stupid. However, CJ is sort of a body guard. I think by virtue of his size he can keep strangers from getting too close to Kristen or Stella. He also provides a little emotional security in a crowd of strangers. It is probably to her credit that she keeps him gainfully employed. I think they help each other.

  • Anna

    All of that stands.
    But, he should be grateful for all the experiences he had thanks to *her*. And one of the best ways to show her that gratitude is by respecting her privacy (something she lost not by her own choice and is, per her own words, trying to regain as much as she can). He’s doing the opposite!
    I mean, check his caption under that pic: he can’t even do the fake gratitude well. “I couldn’t have picked” ?!??? HE picked them?!??? He was there thanks to them (well, Kristen mainly), they decided to bring him, not the other way around. SMH

  • Stephanie

    Exactly. I second to that.

  • Anna

    (Brunette is Tamra, Katy’s long term PA and a friend of Kristen’s group.)

  • BrendaStar

    Hi, Eme. Hope you had a nice time away and welcome back.

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    : )

  • BrendaStar

    That is definitely the smart way to purchase a fragrance. It is kind of stupid that I take it so seriously that I feel obligated.

  • Anna

    Um. I didn’t notice any styling work done on her hair that day, tbh, but OK. LOL

    @kenorourke1
    Thanks for an awesome week #chanel #gabrielle #kristenstewart didn’t know how many hairstyles I could manage to pull off on hair that’s a centimetre long but we managed to rock it as always

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BWPvlTTHePo/

  • MCR

    I have no idea about any of this. No Twitter account, and I don’t really follow anything about her life, apart from this site. I always thought it was nice that she hung onto her pre-fame friends, but I really don’t know.

  • Eme

    Same here, MCR. But, just by virtue of what we know about friendships, it gets a little complicated when the friend becomes an employee, also. Boundaries get a little mushy and might not benefit either one in the long run. I’m just glad I don’t have Twitter, Instagram and all the other permutations of social media so I’m not privy to that stuff. This site satisfies my curiosity about her life both career and personal.

  • Eme

    Each piece is truly a work of art.

  • Eme

    I love this moment. Love her smile and she seems less tense in this moment than in other moments in the video, imo. Thanks, nonA.

  • Eme

    Thank you, Brenda. I had a wonderful time but am glad to be back, both home and on this board.

  • Eme

    Love this picture of both of them. Kristen’s eyes!!! Love Julianne’s expression.

  • MCR

    Mine too.

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    That guy Kristen is talking to has a tape recorder in his hand, right? If so, she’s being interviewed right there on the spot.

  • Anna

    She was trying too hard in that moment to be something she wasn’t in the right mood for. IMO.

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  • Anna

    Kristen Stewart, Personal Shopper

    There’s a deceptive bluntness to the themes Olivier Assayas lays out in Personal Shopper, a ghost story about the personal tremors of loss and the grief that follows and subsides but never fully disappears. Assayas’ images remain as ravishing as ever, enhanced this time by a thrilling air of mystery that his exceedingly straightforward script might have done well to replicate. Lucky for Assays that his foremost collaborator on this project is an artist who excels at embodying enigmas. Kristen Stewart has evolved into an actress with an acute awareness of the role of the viewer. Her fine-boned face can alight with limpid candor even as her physical vocabulary (comprised of those small and oft-mimicked but increasingly entrancing shrugs, slouches, and fidgets) connotes a steely reserve that confounds us right at the moments we foolishly assume we have a handle on her character.
    As Maureen, a soul-sick American medium in Paris wiling away as a haute couture buyer, Stewart pushes her singular minimalism in ever more fascinating ways. She’s a perfect model for Assayas’ illusory compositions, casually contorting her body to blend in with — and just as often distract from — the film’s slick and shimmering surfaces. But Stewart also fleshes out a whole character and the sincerity with which she abandons herself to Maureen’s precarious search for clarity cannot be overpraised. Stewart invites us to play yet another guessing game with her on screen persona’s deeper desires, but the rewards here are even richer than they were in Clouds of Sils Maria. In that previous Assays outing, Stewart dazzled in a smaller role as yet another open book whose pages have been filled with invisible ink. She’s front-and-center this time around and the hold that Personal Shopper eventually claims on our emotional suspension can be directly traced to its gifted star’s moody, slippery presence, which doesn’t only manage to elevate this shifting genre experiment but actually comes to define it.

  • MCR

    Great article; I’m adding several of these to my watch list.
    Nice to see Holly Hunter get some positve attention; I’ve always thought she was badly underrated.

  • gillian kemp

    I like this review.

  • MCR

    Such a well written review, and some of the highest praise I’ve seen for Kristen in this role.

  • Anna

    She might get an Oscar nom for that role (Holly, I mean). Although, the way things are looking right now, it seems Kristen’s former co-star Melissa Leo will win BSA (for Novitiate).

  • Anna

    David is director of A Ghost Story, movie coming out this weekend that is getting raves (Rooney Mara, Casey Affleck).

    https://twitter.com/alissamarie/status/883444536600657920

  • gillian kemp

    Twitter has been totally fun tonight!! That flight from France has produced the funniest tweets.

  • OG Guest

    Well Kristen’s fans have been able to recognize the humour of the situation and can joke about it. Unfortunately the same cannot be said for Rob’s fans.

    For those who are unaware of what happened – Kristen and Rob were on the same flight from Paris to Los Angeles. I’m sure there was no drama apart from the tantrums Rob’s fans are having.

  • Anna
  • Anna

    New pics.

    Kristen and Stella (and HBG) at LAX.

  • Anna

    That other fandom: a) has 0 sense of humor (they never had it) and b) has hate towards Kristen in their blood (had it since the day one).
    Our fandom was having fun while Robsteners were crying for old days.

  • Anna

  • Kath

    They were able to recognize the humor? This is what a mod at one of the most active Kristen Stewart boards Letstalkaboutkristen posted. Have you ever seen a mod from any Robert Pattinson fan boards writing something so hateful and libelous about Kristen? This was not written by some random guest troll on GC either but the mod herself. It is is such an awful representation of Kristen’s fans. It makes her entire fandom look malicious and mean-spirited.

    Will this hatred ever end? How far Kristen fans will go to smear his name? Why do Kristen fans insult his girlfriend? Does the rest of Kristen’s fandom condone this type of behavior? Kristen fans can’t expect the public to like her when this is how they represent her.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/30cb2231cd7124449d5ce1847ff5e6818b8fe7afc1f834fada24e1a8df33ecd6.jpg

  • Anna

    Although, not everything was funny.
    Apparently, they had not so calm flight (all the passengers, I mean): terrible turbulences and plane dipping heavily so ……………. Glad they landed safely.

  • Anna

    I don’t know about his sites and their mods — because spying isn’t what I do. Unlike you! So, gtfo!

    https://m.popkey.co/a53cd7/aWZjk.gif

  • Anna

    And one more thing: that “poor baby Rob” thing you have going on doesn’t work any more. It never did, tbh. Grow the hell up!

  • Kath

    It as an open board anyone can find that is quite high in Google search results. Say what you want but this is a horrible representation of her fandom. Your argument about spying won’t change the content. Millions of people could spy that place and they would all see what´s going on. You won’t find any mod of his fan blog writing such things about Kristen. Live in denial about it but don’t act surprised why the members of the general public treat Kristen the way they do. This is not an isolated incident, her fans smear him and insult and harass his girlfriend every day. The people are not blind. They see it, media are aware of it too.

  • Anna

    Honey, your fandom can’t say anything to ANY other fandom about how terrible they are.
    Or did you forget almost a DECADE of bullying of a young teen girl/young woman (and everyone associated with her) by a group of full ass grown up women?!! You probably did as all of you tend to do that when it suits you.
    Now — GET LOST FROM THIS SITE!
    https://media.giphy.com/media/M4C0jeAkK12DK/giphy.gif

  • Anna
  • Kath

    My job is done here. What you claim won’t justify the behavior of your fandom. Let’s humor the idea this tit for tat argument could work in Rob’s case but you have no ground to stand on in his girlfriend’s case. She has nothing to do with his or her fandom and their drama. If you were mature you would at least try to distance yourself from that type of behavior your fandom demonstrates. Live in the past if you want, focus on the old sins but the present and future are what matter. Every journalist investigating this phenomenon will see the difference between his and hers fan blogs. They will ask why Kristen Stweart fans have this urge to trash Robert Pattinson and his girlfriend in 2017, almost 10 years after the first Twilight drama.

  • Anna
  • Kath

    So mature, so clever. Let’s see if these troll gifs will make a strong argument when another newspaper decides to document this phenomenon. Let’s see how Chanel representatives will appreciate the promo pictures of their products being plastered in between the comments full of libel, hate and racism.

  • Anna

    Dear troll:
    a) work on your trolling skills because they are too damn lame;
    b) there’s no case unless you are counting those voices in your head;
    c) you of all people telling us about maturity?! a person who, in order of protecting poor baby Rob’s honor, searches the internet, lurks and spies and then trolls?! please, give me a brake!;
    d) PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH, hypocrite: your fandom can’t let go of a girl who is his ex for 4+ years now — it’s not us talking about him 24/7 and stalking him!

    AND SOP SELLING ME THAT SHIT YOU ARE TRYING TO SELL TO EVERYONE ELSE FOR YEARS.
    I’ve been her for too long and I have *great* memory. I have evidence of your shit (real shit like death threats, not some stupid gossiping) to fill an office and there’s like zillion of those gifs to be used so I suggest you to walk away while you still can. A fair warning.

  • Anna
  • Anna

    4. PERSONAL SHOPPER

    Personal Shopper, an arthouse ghost story featuring Kristen Stewart as a celebrity assistant-cum-spiritual medium, is as strange and wild as it sounds. Eschewing the norms of genre and expectation, Olivier Assayas (Carlos the Jackal, Clouds of Sils Maria) has created a pretty singular experience; you never quite know what to think, what to feel. Intelligent, subtle, and sophisticated, Personal Shopper is anchored by a knockout performance from Stewart, who is realising her potential as one of the best actors of her generation.

  • Anna

    1. CERTAIN WOMEN

    Kelly Reichardt, one of America’s best independent directors, adapted three short stories by Maile Maloy to form Certain Women, a wonderful, subtle work of feminism and humanism. With stellar performances from Laura Dern, Kristen Stewart, Michelle Williams, Lily Gladstone and Mad Men’s Jared Harris, Certain Women is unconventionally slow, but uniquely beautiful. Reichardt paints America as its true self, a profoundly conflicted country where women still struggle for equality, where the promises of the American Dream too often prove false. Certain Women is a masterpiece of independent cinema.

  • Anna
  • Anna

    9. Personal Shopper (2016)

    After the great French filmmaker Olivier Assayas gave us a truly haunting movie about the specter of mortality — “Late August, Early September” (1998) — it’s not surprising that he eventually followed up with this quietly unsettling drama about possible communication from the Other Side. Kristen Stewart gives a career-highlight performance a young woman who may, or may not, be receiving texts and other messages from her late brother.

  • Kath

    This goes both ways. I have tons of evidence about death threats, racial slurs, the evidence about BIs sent to rags and unlike your evidence, mine is fairly recent too. I am walking away now. Your fandom is off the chain as this is not only between his and her fandoms anymore. You can see the evidence of your fandom’s behavior not only on her fan blogs but Dior’s social media, Nike’s social media and CK’s social media among other things. These are the conglomerates followed by millions from all over the world and they are all the witnesses of your fandom’s antics. Every single avatar on IG with Kristen’s face spreading hate is a representation of her fandom. You can decide to either distance yourself from it or be in denial about it and live with the consequences that will come but it will be Kristen who will pay the final prize. Peace out!

  • Anna

    LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!
    Thanks for all the laughs, troll. But logic and common sense aren’t your forte.
    (P.S. Robsten fans and fans of both ARE your favorite’s fans, too. As much as it pains you, they are.)

    And . . . you are blocked now.
    I’m going back to my usual programing here: talking about Kristen.

    Wish you the best, though. Hope you can find a life.

  • Anna

    P.S. One good thing about this “OMG, they are on the same flight!” thing is how many masks have fallen and let me tell you the result: far far too many people (who call themselves fans) are still shipping them and are living in a long gone past. Which is . . . sad (not being able to accept and deal with reality and what is right there in front of you).

  • Anna

    And some of the nastiest.

  • Gina

    I “blame” Twilight franchise 😉
    Mocked and despised by critics and cinephiles screen adaptation of badly written books still has some strange power. Twilight still affects the life of two leads, after 4 years apart.. Enough for them to be at the same flight, and all the “slime” rose from the bottom..

  • ME

    Shouldn’t you be complaining on that site? We come here for Kristen news, not to police what others in other sites/fandoms say.

  • Anna

    Sadly, yes.

  • Anna

    Ummm. That’s not what trolls are known for — logic.

  • Anna

    So…………………………….

    What do you think, when we can expect Kristen moving to Canada for a month to do JT?

  • OG Guest

    Source of the onlookers?

  • Eme

    Wow, ok, I’m intriqued.

  • Anna

    I think DM article.

  • Eme

    He is so good at his job. I briefly saw the pics last night then went to bed. Woke up to read all the drama that happened while I was sleeping. WTF?!!!!!
    Thank you to Anna, Me, and everyone else who supported Kristen and this board.

  • OG Guest

    For it to be surprising and special, I suppose it could be someone truly legendary or maybe Kristen herself.

  • OG Guest

    I don’t see anything about that in the DM article.

  • Anna

    That’s nothing, Eme.
    What that troll tried to do is 1% of what’s happening every day out there.
    And this person is so not good at trolling so it was too easy to handle her. We had lots of practice over the years.

    Anyway, this day will be remembered as the first day this site was visited by a real troll. LOL

  • Anna
  • Anna

    Was thinking the same.

  • OG Guest

    Thank you. Do you know where this is from though?

  • Anna

    I though it was from DM (it was part of the convo about that article) but you say it’s not so I’m going to google it now. LOL

  • Eme

    YES!!!! My girl has 2 films on this best list so far for 2017!!

  • Eme

    Ugh!!!!

  • Anna

    It’s how our daily life of a Kristen’s fan looks like.

  • Anna

    Found it. X17’s piece.

  • OG Guest

    Sometime towards the end of next week, probably.

  • OG Guest

    Thank you. Not sure how reliable, though I’m sure there was no drama between them.

  • Anna

    Hmmm. That’s too late, IMO.
    I mean, she usually goes at least 5 days before filming.
    We’ll see.

  • Eme

    Thank goodness I’m insulated from all that cluster f*ck by not having social media except for this site. I know that probably makes me a naive fan so I do appreciate you and all her fans that support her on other social media sites.

  • Anna

    Yeah, I don’t trust X17. At all.
    But, as you said, it was probably completely drama free — all three of them are grown ups fully capable of being civil in situation like that one, IMO.

  • Eme

    Ugly, ugly piece of crap. I clicked on it once and never again!

  • Anna

    They are pap agency so that’s normal stuff for them.

  • Eme

    Oh, is that what they are?! No wonder I disliked them from first glance!
    I truly am a neophyte fan! LOL at myself!!!

  • Anna

    Yup! When you hear someone yelling at Kristen taunting her with utter stupidities in all those LAX videos — that’s their guy.

  • Eme

    What a job to have!! Professional bullies!!

  • OG Guest

    Ok, middle of next week. Probably a few days in LA to get her things packed and in order and then she’ll go.

  • Anna

    Disgusting people!

  • Eme

    Yup!!!

  • Anna
  • Anna

    Ummm.

    I just went through most of those tweets and . . . those weren’t funny at all.
    On the surface they might be (great gifs) but when you *really* think about them, they are all shading Kristen in one way or the other painting her as the desperate/unstable/messed up one.
    So no, nothing funny about that whole twitter reactions thing.

  • Anna

    P.S.

    I don’t know why that translation says “exciting” when original article says “emotional” piece.

    Also, it should say “soundtrack as surprising as it is special”.

  • gillian kemp

    I guess it all depends on the people on your Twitter feed. I didn’t see anything all that nasty or mean, just a few jokes and gifs. Apparently the first class section is extremely small, with only a curtain separating the sections. Yes I do believe everyone was civil and adult. I also believe that are not enemies and are perhaps still in some contact.

  • Anna

    There were quite nasty stuff said about that whole thing. You should know by now that (parts of) certain fandom can’t stand Kristen and would prefer her gone forever.

    Yes, the first class is fairly small. So, *if* they were unlucky to be in boots next to each other, it probably was slightly awkward.
    But things like that happen, pass and then everyone moves on.

  • gillian kemp

    I didn’t see too many of “their” comments. I do believe that many of the Kristen fans of my twitter feed were having a bit of fun, with the situation. I do wonder why they didn’t take the private exit, at the airport. So perhaps the encounter wasn’t a big deal to them.

  • Anna

    That private exist, as far as I know, is only for passengers on Delta’s flights. They were flying with Air France.

  • gillian kemp

    I didn’t know it was just for Delta.

  • Anna
  • Anna
  • ME

    I hope she took some time to prepare for this role. I know she’s into “first takes” but this is a real person with a real persona, not someone she can recreate into some likeness of her. I hope she did research into her mannerisms and the way she talks.

  • Anna

    Well, based on that interview she did with Anne and how she talked about Savannah, it looks like she has met her and knows her well enough.

    Although, how we will know if those are really Savannah mannerisms? This is not like when Kristen was playing Joan J. who was/is well known to wide(er) audience. No one knows much about Savannah, especially not about that part of her life when she wasn’t playing JT in public (and even then, very few people would be able to tell the difference — it’s not like JT was a famous star).

  • OG Guest

    She certainly needs to be able to emulate JT. There is plenty of evidence of JT and that public persona. Pictures, videos, interviews. And to respond to ME, I have faith she did all that. She did it with Joan Jett and this role has been in development for a while. She’s had a long time to do her research and prepare. There’s been evidence of her meeting with the director and even Savannah on numerous occasions over recent months.

  • Anna

    P.S.

    I just wanted to add that I *do* hear you. I’m also so tired of Kristen’s tendency to bend every character she plays to be somewhat like her. It only brings criticism that she’s constantly playing herself. She already has limited range so she should try to stop doing that.

  • Anna

    I know those exist. But how many regular people really *know* JT? Not many at all. She wasn’t Joan J. or some star of that level.

    I’m not saying Kristen shouldn’t be well prepared, nothing like that. It’s just that she does have a bit, just a bit, more freedom (and less pressure) in this case. That’s all.

  • OG Guest

    I get it. But I think she’s a perfectionist and will want it to be perfect, even if JT wasn’t as famous as someone like Joan Jett, who is an icon.

  • Anna

    I think she will do everything she can.
    It will be easier with Savannah, because she’s real person (and can help her) than with JT, who wasn’t (so, she’ll probably have to learn by watching those videos).

  • OG Guest

    I have a feeling that Savannah will be very involved. She’ll probably be on the set. Which can be good and bad.

  • Anna

    Yeah, that can happen.
    Tbh, I would prefer if she could stay away. For various reasons. And I don’t particularly like her (based on some things I read about/from her) but that’s just me.

  • Anna

    (This also proves how not good Kristen’s makeup for Chanel show was.)

  • OG Guest

    She’s certainly a character. I guess it can be good because she is the driving force of the film. It’s her story being told so who better to really help Kristen? On the other hand, it can be restrictive for Kristen precisely because it’s Savannah’s story. What if Kristen sees a less favourable trait in her or certain qualities that Savannah doesn’t want portrayed? It can be limiting. I don’t think that will be the case though. I think Kristen will do a great job portraying what is basically two three-dimensional characters. I should read the book to see how Savannah tells the story.

  • Anna

    Agree.
    Although, it’ll also depend on how well written that script is (the book that it’s based on isn’t all that great). And, of course, even if Kristen gives an amazing performance during filming, director can ruin it right there on set with bad directing or/and in editing room during post-prod.
    The story itself is complicated (and polarizing and odd) enough as it is so even with the best team working on it, this film would be still a huge risk in many ways (and it’s obvious we don’t have best people working on it).

  • Anna

    @dbeauty.larepubblica
    #kristenstewart #chanelparty #thegabriellechanelfragrance #newfragrance #beutifulwoman #goodmorning

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BWRqInAF9nt/?taken-by=dbeauty.larepubblica

  • MCR

    !!!

  • nonA

    saw the pics with the flying wedge of protection for K & Stella, but missed all the drama afterwards. the posts, screenshots, & graphics below were a throwback to bad ol’ times! it’s very strange that an RP fan would come to this board, which is,….well, somewhat pessimistic, or at best moderately supportive, toward Kristen. and generally positive toward Rob’s career. anyway, glad we missed it.

    thanks to you Eme for being a thoughtful & reasonable & balanced presence here!

  • nonA

    that’s a good point about her playing 2 characters, although some said at the time it was pretty obvious that the JT character was a woman in a wig. it seems like Savannah is a very-very free spirit and she will not try to place restrictions on the portrayal. if they are friendly, which it sounds like they are, then Kristen will certainly try her best to convey the story in a positive light. good or bad, who knows? eager to see how it goes with her, Laura Dern & Jim Sturgess though.

  • OG Guest

    It may have been obvious about JT, but some were fooled and either way it is essentially another character. I am eager as well.

  • ME

    I got my Chanel Gabrielle today and unfortunately the reviews were right. It’s pretty meh. I wish they spent 5 years on making the fragrance instead of the bottle. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/71a0a0cac581b4f0f36a04687f5bef4ccbd6ce42decb4088664593702fdadbc9.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/61c77b9f5fa5906abbf0993c1078c0ad7a4c9a3e492c564fcda19aca5980d866.jpg

  • gillian kemp

    Does it smell bad or just boring? Sorry you were disappointed.

  • ME

    Maybe it’s not great on me. I was hoping the jasmine and sandalwood would be more prominent but it’s more a fusion of incompatible fragrances. I would say it’s better than Rosabotanica (because it’s more subtle) but not as good as Florabotinca.

  • Anna
  • gillian kemp

    I loved Florabotinca, but the scent faded quickly on me. I like a clean, fresh, classical scent. Rosabotanica was to strong.

  • Anna

    Sometimes, you gotta trust people (and their noses).
    Gabrielle will be a big disappointment for Chanel and everyone else.

  • gillian kemp

    Do the newer reviews seem more favorable?

  • Anya

    While I’m grateful that you post links and stuff, I wish there’s a disqus feature that all your other comments/text are hidden. You are such a downer. I always try to skip reading your comments but alas, sometimes unintentionally read them.

  • Anna

    (Kristen’s reaction to it should have been enough of a sign to everyone here — when she was asked what she thinks about it she only said “Pretty.” which is quite different from what she used to say about Florabotanica and and how much she praised it.)

  • Anna
  • Anna

    No, not really. They are, more or less, all very similar.

  • Anna

    (Unless you are talking about Sundance in which case the answer is yes.)

  • Anna

    (There are moments when I completely agree with you because sometimes you get to see a bit too much like certain things you don’t know what to make of — like Jules’ instagram activity, for example.)

  • ME

    Me too. I really like Florabotanica but not Rosabotanica. Fortunately this is not as overpowering as Rosabotanica.

  • nonA

    alas, the nose knows, but early yet. the commercial sounds interesting though. i don’t think there would have been a time where Kristen could have rejected this part of the Chanel contract for ‘smell’ reasons. that is, without being accused of forgoing a great opportunity.

  • nonA

    yes there have been more recently as the sundance short films are playing across the country here & there (but not close to here, dang it). very nice words from this blogger:

    “Regardless of being able to fully extract meaning, as it is probably
    best to fully immerse personal reflections into the short, Stewart has
    serious talent. She is not coasting on her name and popularity and
    proves that she really has what it takes as a young filmmaker. I’d be
    thrilled to see what she produces in the future as she forges her own
    path as writer and director.”

  • Eme

    Thank you, nonA, for your kind words. Kristen’s my girl. Speaking for myself, I have zero interest in Mr. Pattinson. This board is my go to for Kristen news, primarily work. So, yeah, I’m glad we missed all the useless drama earlier.
    But I am grateful for those that spoke up for Kristen.

  • Eme

    Ugh.

  • Anna
  • Anna

    KRISTEN STEWART, ‘PERSONAL SHOPPER’

    It’s been nearly five years since the last installment in the Twilight franchise was released in theaters and Kristen Stewart has been working hard ever since. Her credits include critical favorites like Clouds of Sils Maria and Certain Women. Her transition from the star of a vampire-romance series to an art house movie star has met with wild success and her work in Personal Shopper is just the most recent testament to that.

    Stewart plays Maureen, a personal assistant for a model and a medium trying to contact her dead brother. In both concept and execution, the movie is rather unorthodox, but what Stewart does with the role is remarkable to watch. She offers so much to the audience by playing the role in such a genuine and honest way. Kristen’s naturalistic acting ticks and tendencies feel at home here, grounding the film’s more unbelievable moments.

    She takes a role that could have easily felt artificial and makes it real. What’s more impressive is the way she’s able to fill scenes in the film that would otherwise feel empty. The story gives her almost nothing and no one to act against except sometimes a cell phone, but even in isolation Stewart shines.

    Where to watch: Available for rent or purchase

  • Anna
  • Anna

    PERSONAL SHOPPER (March 10)

    The most impressive film so far this year, in this writer’s humble opinion, is Olivier Assayas’ latest—a spooky, beguiling meditation on grief, celebrity, and the pratfalls of adulthood. Kristen Stewart (never better) plays the personal shopper to a celebrity. In between menial tasks, she’s haunted by the death of her twin brother, whose ghost (or is it?) guides the kindred spirit to rebel against her soul-draining station in life. Between this and the stellar Clouds of Sils Maria, there are few better filmmaker-actress pairings than Assayas and Stewart, with the nimble French director bringing out the very best in his American muse.

  • Anna

    New/old fan pic (Musée National Picasso, Paris, July 5th, 2015) but posted today..

    @arteagaedward
    La actriz Kristen Stewart , de la saga Crepúsculo, llegó éstos días a París para el desfile de Channel en la semana de la Alta Cortura. Pensar qué hace 2 años la vi el primer domingo de Julio 2015 en el Museo de Picasso en París, foto para el recuerdo…
    #museopicasso #museepicasso #picasso #kristenstewart #kristenstewartfans #paris #travel #tourism #tourist
    Google translate:
    Actress Kristen Stewart, from the Twilight saga, arrived these days in Paris for the Chanel show during high fashion week. To think that 2 years ago I saw her on the first Sunday of July 2015 in the Museum of Picasso in Paris, photo for the memory …

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BWVXYIaBRqj/?taken-by=arteagaedward

  • Eme

    Did she already have the Picasso tattoo then or did this trip to the museum inspire her to go for it?

  • Anna

    Um. Eme she got her Guernica tattoo two years prior, in 2013 😉
    Blame Madrid and their museum for that because she saw Guernica there back in 2008.

  • Eme

    Oh, lol!!! I am so bad at this!!! Never rely on my fan knowledge!!

  • Anna

    Okay. LOL!

  • Eme

    😉

  • nonA

    this just means you have a real life! glad Kristen had the opportunity to see the original works in paris & madrid.

  • Eme

    Me too!! Hi nonA!

  • Anna

    (Work on your shading skills, they aren’t good.)

  • BrendaStar

    Hi Anna. Rece

  • Anna

    Hey, Brenda!
    Simply put, people are feeling like they can’t relate to her in any way any more, that connection is lost (Kristen “changed”, and so did they). Combine that with the fact that big majority of them doesn’t get to see her films because they don’t get to their local theaters/countries and ………………………….
    All the fun is gone, it’s far more stressful following her now than many people are ready/willing/able to take. So they are either dropping this whole fangirling business or moving on to being fans of something/someone more fun/successful.

  • Anna
  • Toooten

    I basically agree with you, but that’s not the whole truth.

    We have to take in consideration, that the majority of her [then] huge fandom was from the “Twilight” franchise – very young girls [for the most] and young girls tends to grow up, getting other interests, go to college, getting a boy[girl]friend, having a career and maybe even getting married and having children themselves, and then the idols tends to fade because they simply doesn’t have the time nor the interest anymore – they have other things and other interests in their lives now.

    — you know, life happens to get in the way sometimes. 🙂

  • Anna

    That’s what I meant by “Kristen changed and so did they”.
    Because, Kristen was 17 or 18 when they started following her and now she is fully grown up (but still immature in some ways). When it comes to fans, some were in early teens when they became part of the fandom and now they are done with college, looking for jobs, ect. So many people on my timeline got married, had a child or two, started their careers, ect. Some are still fans while others aren’t. Life.
    Thing is, believe it or not, those fans (people who left because of those reasons) are in minority. The biggest chunk of what used to be this fandom left because Kristen is not who they ~thought she was.

  • BrendaStar

    Thanks, Anna, for the explanation. It makes sense. Hope you have a nice day.

  • Anna

    You are welcome.

    Have a great day you, too, Brenda!

  • Anna

    P.S. This wouldn’t be an issue if she was gaining new fans. But she isn’t. And *that’s* her biggest problem.

  • MCR

    I expect she’s gaining fans among movie lovers; but maybe they’re less likely to be following her personally, like on a fan site.

  • Eme

    (Told you I was a naive fan. Sorry my comment was used in that way.).

  • Anna

    Nah.
    Don’t confuse “they don’t hate her anymore” with “they are her fans now” which is essentially what I’m seeing in Kristen’s case. There are people who are very interested in her work, yes, but they won’t miss her if she stops making movies. For example, I’m seeing on a regular basis people asking what’s up with Mia W., when she will have next movie coming out. I’m yet to see any of those moviegoers asking about any of Kristen’s future projects. Some say they will try to see them . . . when they come out but they are in no “OMG, I can’t wait!” mode for sure.

    I’m also seeing many polls (about Oscars and other awards) about who should have won/been nominated in last couple of years among younger generation of actors/actresses with *thousands* of votes and hundreds of replies (from top critics/bloggers/moviegoers/ordinary folks) and no one remembers her nor CoSM. That should tell you something.

  • Anna

    (Not your fault. At all! We’re good ;D)

  • Eme

    :))

  • Eme

    I *discovered* her after Twilight so I guess I’m in the minority of fans who follow her post-Twilight.

  • Anna

    You are a very rare species of a fan, Eme, definitely ;P

  • Eme

    Cute! 😉

  • MCR

    Likewise. I never saw, or even read, Twilight until long after the fact.

  • Anna

    Wish there was many more fan Emes.

  • Eme

    Yeah, someone suggested I read the books (She loved them!) And I was like “nah”. But then, after I discovered her, I had to read them before I saw the films on DVD. That was an experience, lol!!!

  • Eme

    Uh, that would be a definite no from the hubby. He couldn’t take another Eme. LOL!!!

  • Anna

    You actually finished them?!? Woman, you are my hero! I barely manged to go through first book (thank god for summed up version of the rest of them someone made).

    Re this thing that you started following her after 2012 . . . many people did (or were trying to) precisely because of how she was treated after the scandal. I’m not saying that was your main/only reason but for many it was (instead of her work). Some are still in the fandom.

  • Anna

    But many Emes could handle him ;P

  • Eme

    Read every word. I kept thinking there was more to this whole phenomenon. The writing was …. abysmal.
    And, yes, the initial intro to Kristen was post-scandal for me but it became more about her work very soon after.

  • Eme

    No, no just me. I’m kinda territorial that way! 😉

  • Anna

    How those books became best sellers is mind-boggling to me. LOL

    I’m glad you stayed 🙂

  • Anna

    Okay.
    So, no cloning Eme. Good to know ;P

  • MCR

    A young relative insisted on lending me the first book. Pretty awful, I thought; but I found them much easier to take if I thought of them as modernized fairy tales rather than novels. The young woman who leaves the world behind to join her lover in the underworld is a classic theme, and might have been good in the hands of a different writer. Just as the movies might have been interesting with the right screenwriter and director.

  • Eme

    It doesn’t bode well for the young adult mind, does it?!
    I’m glad I stayed too. 🙂

  • Anna

    They have potential to kill brain cells.

  • Eme

    Ewww. Just thinking about another Eme running around is kinda freaking me out. That vision. . . just, no. LOL!!!

  • Anna

    Scripts were the very worst part of that whole franchise. Just horrible.
    You cannot make a decent film based on a terrible script no matter how good of a director you are.
    Sigh.

  • Anna

    Good thing you don’t have identical twin then. LOL

  • Eme

    Um, they did judging from all the hysteria and crazy fandom it generated!

  • Anna

    Um. I think fanfictions finished the job.

  • Eme

    Thank the powers that be for that one!!! LOL!!

  • MCR

    Maybe it filled a need that other youth literature didn’t. Whether that was for innocent romance, a self-sacrificing heroine, or what, I couldn’t say.

  • Anna

    LOL!

  • Eme

    Unfortunately, I agree.

  • Anna

    Whatever it is, it runs deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep.

  • Eme

    It definitely filled a need. I have no idea what – that’s a question for the ages.

  • Eme

    LOL!!!!!

  • Eme

    Yes, I agree.

  • Eme

    Absolutely agree.

  • Eme

    Kristen gets overlooked, fairly or not, because the stench that is Twilight still lingers around her.
    But she is getting critical acclaim & for me that’s the important thing.
    The Oscar is another thing entirely.
    Have to go. Bbl.

  • Anna

    I get that. And I agree. In general.
    But . . . she’s not moving onto the next level. And she has to, Eme. When I say next level, I don’t necessarily think about her getting that darn Oscar nom (although, because of her particular situation, it could do her much good) — it’s about receiving *respect* from *wide(er)* audience for the high quality of her work (you know, like many of those actors/actresses who are known as good but without Oscars and all that).

    Stay safe.
    Bye!

  • Anna

    New pics.

    Kristen and Stella out in LA driving — wait for it — that old blue dusty rusty Twilight pickup truck (it’s aliiiive!). LOL

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    (Kristen, for the love of all that’s holy learn to PUT THE DAMN SEAT BELT ON.)

  • Anna

    OT

    Read this (I know MCR will because he likes Zoe but it’s much more than just about her).

    https://twitter.com/guardianfilm/status/883627506477039616

  • BrendaStar

    I didn’t recognize Soko who looked pretty in Gucci. Kristen still my favorite of the week from the list of 10.

  • BrendaStar

    I love that truck.

  • BrendaStar

    I agree too with viewing the books as modern day fairy tales. You said it best. I loved the advertisements for the first film on TV, and then bought the 1st book at my supermarket. I got involved fairly early.

  • Anna

    (But if you want to keep your blood pressure stable, don’t read comment section.)

  • Anna

    Kristen’s knees look like they finally healed.

  • Anna

    Also . . . Hi, Cole!

  • Eme

    Kristen for the win!

  • Eme

    I remember a red truck – is this the same truck? Man, am I going to have to go back and see Twilight again?!! LOL!!!

  • Eme

    I like it too. I think it’s so cool that she drives this beat-up truck around LA. Just wish it wasn’t so recognizable for the parasites!

  • Eme

    I see him in one pic but not in the other 2 pics of them in the truck. He’s such a cutie. The humans are also.

  • Eme

    They look cute in these pics – so very LA and 20 somethings. Glad she’s wearing the hat backwards so I can’t recognize if it’s *it*.

  • Anna

    No, the red truck was/is Pattinson’s.

    First Twilight, beginning of the movie, ‘Bella and Charlie arrive to heir house in his cruiser’ scene — in one brief frame, you can see *the* blue pickup truck parked under a tree on their property.
    Kristen bought it after filming was over and drove it all the way from Oregon to LA.

  • Anna

    It’s not. LOL

  • Eme

    Then my day is complete – LOL!!!!

  • Anna

    Cole is a she. LOL
    She was probably lying down or something in other pics.

  • nonA

    oh, no one’s fault, especially yours, Eme. it’s a strange ‘hobby’ we’re involved in, when you get right down to it! i keep up with Kristen more than i should – i know what city she’s in most of the time – (but couldn’t tell you where some of my relatives are living right now!)

  • Eme

    Oh good grief! Yes, I think you told me that before – my memory problem, remember?! Patience with me, please!!! LOL!

  • Anna

    Okay. LOL!

  • Eme

    Good grief again! I meant I remember the red truck Bella drove in Twilight. Just curious. Is that the same red truck Pattinson drives?
    So, they both bought the trucks from Twilight? Why do I think that’s funny, if true?!! LOL!!!!

  • Anna

    No, not the same red truck.
    No, she got hers on set, he got his from Craig List (?).

  • Eme

    Oh, okay. Glad she has such a great souvenir from her Twilight days. Maybe *old blue* can be the new *it*. Won’t carry the disdain I have for the original *it* but it could make for fun convos.

  • Anna

    You are *not*, under any circumstance, allowed to go after the blue pickup truck. That thing is actually loved by many in the fandom. LOL

  • nonA

    it’s a good thing though – she didn’t thrive being the center of attention & with the hysteria. she lost her privacy since ’08, but she did gain access to better directors & scripts. now it’s time for her to start moving behind the camera as writer & director, where she says she’s found her niche.

    and see what happens. since Life is like that.

  • Eme

    I love the truck, too! Okay, so we’ll save the *it* moniker for things disliked. Last thing I want to do is start a war in the fandom. LOL!!!

  • Anna

    Those tube socks are always the safest bet. For now. They’ll make a reappearance, don’t you worry. LOL

  • Eme

    I forgot about the tube socks! I can’t really dislike them too much because, unfortunately, my husband wears socks like those so it would kinda be hypocritical of me to *hate* on them when my own wears them, js.

  • Anna

    I feel nothing re those socks. As long as they look clean and aren’t making appearance on red carpets, they are just socks like so many other. LOL

  • Eme

    Anna, those are butt ugly socks – clean or not, lol! And they remind me of those nerdy characters in high school/college comedies that are always the butt of jokes (but then, those characters always end up on the right side in the end, so there is that).

  • Anna

    Just socks. LOL

  • Eme

    Obviously, I have some emotions attached to those socks, lol!!!

  • Anna

    Well, one thing is clear: you sure don’t have a socks fetish. LOL

  • Eme

    Hahaha! But true! LOL!!!

  • Eme

    Honestly, Kristen is the only actress that I follow. Don’t ask me why but there is *something* about her that keeps me interested. So, for now, I just roll with it.

  • Eme

    The Big Sick is doing very well for an indie comedy. Good for everyone involved.

  • Anna

    Yup! And that in itself is the best thing that could have happened to that movie.

    But . . . It also has a shot at BP nom (+ best screenplay and Holly for BSA).
    This year is apparently going to be very odd (and weak) when it comes to awards race (only, I don’t think that will help Kristen and PS in any way — not that she was going to be part of it — but her ex has a really solid chance).

  • MCR

    Maybe someone like Michelle Williams would be your model for “where Kristen should be by now”? Similar acting style, and also a bit of an indie queen, who outgrew her connection with a popular youth programme to become a critical success – but with more solid recognition.

  • MCR

    I’ve come to expect it by now, unfortunately.

  • Anna

    As the next step? Yes. Ultimate goal? Julianne Moor. (Hey, a girl can dream. LOL)
    What I’m trying to say is that, no one thinks Michelle is a bad actress. Period. Some don’t like her (no one is liked by everybody) but majority of people are pretty neutral. And while public will never be neutral towards Kristen, not in that way, I wish she could get similar level of respect.

  • Eme

    Yup. Unfortunately.

  • Eme

    I’d like to see actresses like Holly H. get recognized more just because it’s always the shiny, new thing that gets recognized in this youth oriented business. That’s my bias for what it’s worth.
    And, I’ve come to expect that Kristen & her work will be overlooked come Oscar time – that’s just the way it rolls (especially when we are dealing with IFC).
    Not interested in the ex.

  • Eme

    Definitely agree regarding similar level of respect that Michelle receives for Kristen. Because I think she’s earned that level of respect but never gets it from the general public because, well, to put it bluntly, there’s a *sheep mentality* there. A laziness that translates to an absence of critical thinking or, man, even just independent thinking.
    Ultimate goal: I kinda like Tilda S.’s career – while it’s still outside the mainstream box, she has the respect (although her recent choice of the character in Dr. Strange gave me great pause). But I also agree with Julianne Moore as an ultimate goal, also.

  • csm123

    Kristen is where Natalie Portman and Keira Knightley were at the same age. Both were franchise actresses at one point, both had a lot of detractors but eventually rebuild their careers just through work. Michelle Williams’ breakthrough came as an awards winning actress so people view her differently and I am not sure if she is a good comparison.

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    Personal Shopper

    Earlier this year, I jokingly tweeted that Personal Shopper was merely “100 minutes of Kristen Stewart buying clothes, hunting ghosts, and text messaging” and that I loved every fucking minute of it. A tad reductive, I’ll admit, but it’s not a completely inaccurate summation of the film’s plot (and far be it from me to think that that would go on to be my most popular tweet ever). The latest from French auteur cum punk-rock enthusiast Olivier Assayas, Personal Shopper does indeed feature Kristen Stewart as the personal shopper for a famous actress who, in her spare time, practices being a medium to seek out the spirit of her recently deceased twin brother, who succumbed to a congenital heart condition Stewart’s character was also born with. That’s essentially all there is to it, with the middle act of the film dedicated to Stewart receiving a series of ominous text messages from an unknown source, one that may or may not be her brother. It’s to the credit of Assayas’ that he makes this material so damn compelling to watch on screen, with Stewart equally rising to the occasion to deliver her career-best work as an actress yet.

  • Anna

    Agree.
    I would take Tilda’s career any given day.

  • Anna
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    Personal Shopper

    Part ghost story, part character study, part suspense thriller and part murder mystery – I’ll confess to having no idea how to label Olivier Assayas’ Personal Shopper, but I know for certain that it is brilliant. Kristen Stewart gives a career defining performance here, embodying her character in revolutionary ways – even when the film goes wordless for a good twenty minute stretch, Stewart’s physical acting is exemplary. Personal Shopper refuses to be boxed in, building to a final act unwilling to answer every question it raises in favour of a more abstract, open ended conclusion. The film is consistently tense and its atmospheric work might be the best of the year thus far, but it’s Stewart herself that takes a great film and turns it into a masterful one. If it isn’t the best performance of the year come December, I’ll eat the very laptop on which I’m typing this sentence.

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  • BrendaStar

    Yes!

  • BrendaStar

    The blue truck reminds me of the old trucks my dad drove. I bought a trax a few years ago. I think it is the same color.

  • MCR

    I agree with all of this. Love Holly Hunter, and wish she got more notice. And I stand by my prediction that Kristen will set the record for most acting awards received by an actress without getting an Oscar.

    As for the ex…that was an unpleasant learning curve for me. I had no interest in him at all, even thought he was miscast and blah in Twilight, and was unimpressed by the two or three other movies of his I saw. But then he did Cosmopolis, and being a huge Cronenberg fan, I had to see it – and he wasn’t bad. So I checked out his next thing, The Rover, and I have to admit, he was – no getting around it – brilliant. This must be how some of those former Kristen Stewart haters felt when they were compelled to admire one of her performances.

  • Anna

    Haters among critics or haters among ordinary people and from that other fandom? Because the later never got over their hate and never will, her good performances have nothing to do with that (and they’ll never give her that).

  • Eme

    Haters gonna hate no matter what.

  • Anna

    Yeah. I got used to that. We all did.
    What I’ll never get used to is what her own fans are currently doing.

  • Eme

    I’m not privy to their actions (I guess it’s all on Twitter) so I don’t know what it is they’re doing. But can you still call them *fans* if what they are doing is so bad?

  • Anna

    (They are spreading rumors she’s on hard drugs. Accounts with thousands of followers, some even with 10+K. Number of RTs is bigger that what, say, these articles about PS are getting.)

    That’s permanent dilemma. Who is a fan and who a “fan”. But these people I’m talking about have been part of the fandom since early days are are representing the biggest part of what’s left of it now (sadly, that part is connected to Twilight and shippers).
    Deep down they aren’t her fans (they can’t stand her) but, because of their own issues they need her as their mental punching bag on which they can project everything they hate about themselves, they are sticking around and, for the world, they are Kristen’s big fans.

  • Anna

    [I’m already seeing those people I blocked on here, and others like them, reading that comment and . . . I know what you are thinking but, sorry to disappoint you, the answer is NO.]

  • Toooten

    He was very good – maybe not brilliant in my sense of the word – but defiantly good.

  • Toooten

    So has I, but I’m immune by now so I don’t care anymore.

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  • Eme

    My girl can’t win with these people. *It’s all about the work* is my motto (borrowed from Patti Smith, I believe?) as her fan. There are some serious issues flying about in her fandom. Enough said.

  • Eme

    How cool is that?!

  • Eme

    I like how Kristen’s hair is growing out and the *color* it is now.

  • Anna

    You know, it used to happen only in a certain part of the fandom and everyone knew it so having those people muted/blocked was enough. Now? I don’t follow any of them and yet their BS ends up on my timeline every couple of hours (partly thanks to some changes twitter made). I mute and block and still, new a**holes appear. They are so deranged that they couldn’t stop posting crap even during Cannes or PFW. Hell, they spend the whole day of her bday (!) sh**ting on everything and everyone. It’s really becoming hard to just focus on her professional life because, in order to do that, I would have only dozen of fans to follow (which isn’t good because you are limiting yourself re different POVs). That’s how bad things are. It’s exhausting vetting all that stuff out. (God forbid you do a twitter search for Kristen’s name — in order to find news/articles/sightings/ect. — you legit might get an aneurysm.)
    End of rant. (Sorry, had to vent for a bit.)

  • Anna

    It’s cool.
    But I would like to see her really acting in a movie with Marion. LOL

  • Eme

    It’s ok. Vent away – sorry it’s that awful. Doubly appreciative of the work you do to keep the board up to date with Kristen news.

  • Anna

    ;D

    (P.S. I didn’t post that so that people would feel sorry for me nor anything like that. At the end of the day, no one is forcing me on anything. But . . . there are days when I just have too much of human stupidity, if ykwim.)

  • MCR

    I was thinking of critics and movie buffs who formerly disliked her but came around. Because you’re right, the “other fandom” people are kind of irrational about it.

  • Eme

    I didn’t take it that way at all. And, yes, I think I know what you mean because I don’t see all the crap you do, thank goodness. Keep doing you, Anna!

  • Anna

    Got it!

  • Eme

    And it’s the critics’ & movie buffs’ opinions that are important to me at the end of the day.

  • Anna

    Will give my best. LOL!

  • Eme

    ;)!

  • Eme

    That goes without saying for me! That would be so beyond cool!

  • MCR

    Yes, please!

  • MCR

    There were always so-called fans who seemed very invested in her being a certain kind of person – and then becoming hostile when it became clear she wasn’t that person. The ones who want her domestic and maternal, married and with multiple babies, are the most extreme (and loony) example, but I’m sure there are others.

  • MCR

    Me too. And, I suspect, to Kristen as well.

  • Anna

    Oh, there are many others (even within LGBTQ+ community, mind you).
    I know I tend to rant (a lot) re her career and how certain things that (can) affect her public perception/image get handled by her and/or her team (because that then affects that same career), but I never allowed myself to tell her who to date and sleep with, how to decorate her house, what to eat and drink, ect. I do notice ~stuff (we all do) that don’t exactly look good (from where we are standing) but from that to feeling *so* entitled to actually publicly shame her when she’s not living her private life in the way I would there’s a world of difference.

  • gillian kemp

    Cool, I wonder when it was done?

  • Eme

    I was wondering the same thing. And if she has her buzz cut.

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  • Alfred Birchall

    I have just watched Certain Women ( My DVD came yesterday ) I expected to be not particularly engaged with the first 2 stories but I enjoyed them all.Kristens character was actually not empathetic at all so for her she was playing a type not in her usual character resume. But Lily Gladstone was such a sad woman and her desperate loneliness became palpable .This was a film I will get value for money from most definitely..

  • BrendaStar

    Thanks for the review, Sue, since I have not yet seen the film. Glad you enjoyed the film.

  • BrendaStar

    Thanks, Anna, I will have to watch the discussion when I have more time.

  • Anna
  • Alfred Birchall

    Sorry Brenda I hope I didn’t give a spoiler that will affect your appraisal of this film. Where I live in UK ( Cornwall is a holiday destination ) The only films we have here are super heroes and Crash em up type of films.I get my fix through Amazon and I have Personal Shopper next week to look forward to.I am used to K playing every emotion in what ever situation she is placed CW is notable for her not doing that .Against type as I said.

  • gillian kemp

    I was empathetic. I have been in that situation, someone believing and feeling something you don’t. Kristen’s character was uncomfortable with the horse ride. And Lily’s character not even seeing it. From a distance Lilly’s character had no real reason to believe a relationship existed. I wanted Kristen’s character to be slightly frightened of Lilly’s.

  • Alfred Birchall

    That was the subtlety that I appreciated in that situation. Kristens character was in a situation she had no intentions of doing anything but a job she wasn’t really suited for .She was so wrapped up in her predicament ( The long distances ) She didn’t see any of the ramifications her paying Lily attention would amount to The fact that Liliy’s character doesn’t even have a name and the isolation of that woman was so touching. Her face during the ride home was heartbreaking.

  • gillian kemp

    It is heartbreaking, but Kristen’s character didn’t show any interest in the other woman. And Lily’s character didn’t have the social skills to hold her attention. It’s an excellent movie, full of sad lonely people.

  • OG Guest

    To answer both of you, it’s probably just footage of her from the 2015 Cesars, when she won.

  • Anna

    Kristen is a member now (well, only if she said yes) so ……………….

    https://twitter.com/THR/status/884879619140325376

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  • MCR

    The missed connections and crossed wires were such minor events, yet so painful. I recall one amateur reviewer complaining that “nothing important happened” in the movie. In one sense, that’s true; but at the same time, almost too much is happening. Bringing these things to light is what KR is so amazingly good at.

  • Eme

    It is a beautifully acted film by all 4 women & directed by a director who captures the subtle power of quiet moments filled with emotions.

  • Alfred Birchall

    That is so true MCR … Michelles’ characters expression at the BBQ was so telling too..KR is a master of understatement and she works well with her actors.. Cant wait to see how Laura Dern and Kristen play together in JT. Laura has been brilliant in Big Little lies recently . I have probably overlooked most of her career in recent years.But that can be rectified …

  • ME

    I loved this movie. So subtle and nuanced.

  • gillian kemp

    They are good.

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    FW collection, now called Travel Diary, and Kristen is its face (we only got that one pic as full campaign is yet to come out — or maybe they are going to use only that one ad).

    https://twitter.com/pretareporter/status/884903857935011840

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  • MCR

    LOL The two projects are so far apart, it’s strange to see them side by side.

  • Anna

    Two sides of one career/actress/person/life.

  • Anna
  • gillian kemp

    Thank you Miss Anna!! You do so much for us.

  • Anna

    (I think Kristen might have left LA yesterday. If not, she will be definitely leaving today, it seems.)

    https://twitter.com/TeamK_1/status/885160239364005889

  • Anna

    You are welcome, Gillian!

  • Anna

    (Um. Just one thing. Please, Universe, make sure those wigs are *much* better than Eclipse ones. This world already suffered enough because of them. That’s all.)

  • Anna

    It’s today, after all. (And, hi there Suzie?)

    https://twitter.com/TeamK_1/status/885163061757300736

  • Anna

    Based on yesterday’s CJ’s post, Cole is with them, too.
    Which leaves us with that old question: “What about Bear?!”.

  • MCR

    Looks bad for the old hound.

  • Anna

    IKR?
    And he was really sick when they got him as a puppy …………………..

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  • MCR

    They’re all the face of some major cosmetics company (Cara D. is on the Rimmel posters) but all with longer hair.

  • MCR

    Personal Shopper review from about 54:00 to 57:00.
    A partial transcription:

    “…another pretentious ghost story (joking)…stars Kristen Stewart as a personal shopper…she’s very much on the outside looking in…She could die at any time, and she’s in mourning…also she’s a medium…deals with (existence of ghosts) very matter-of-factly…she just knows for a fact there’s an afterlife. She’s trying to reach beyond the veil and communicate with her brother, because she’s lonely and frightened, and there’s nobody she’s really connecting with. That’s kind of what the movie’s all about.
    There’s a sub-plot involving a murder, and someone is texting her and she thinks it might be messages from her dead brother, or someone may be stalking her, or even both…but it’s all about the way we obsess over death. No matter what we think about death…it’s still the unknown, it’s still frightening, and it still drives us and influences our actions. [The movie] is all sorts of other things as well: it’s a commentary about fashion, body image, and how — It’s a character piece, ultimately, about a young woman who doesn’t have anything to connect to, who feels failed by the people around her, by circumstances, and indeed, by the metaphysical realities of the universe. AND, that middle chunk, with the murder, is f^%$&#* suspenseful! There’s some really good stuff! There’s a cell phone gag – I call it a gag, because, well, it’s a neat thing they do with a cell phone, that’s one of the coolest and most suspenseful things I’ve seen in a thriller in a long time. But the thriller aspect is only a bit in the middle. It’s a sad, touching, weird story, that I think is absolutely fascinating, is very confident and sure… it doesn’t feel like they don’t know what it is. They know exactly what it is, and what it is is weird! So I recommend you check it out.”

  • Anna

    Thanks for this, MCR.

  • ME

    Maybe that’s why she looked so sad at the Chanel show.

  • Eme

    Thank you, MCR! I balked at the length of the podcast and decided it was just too long for me, so I really appreciate your work & sharing it with us.

  • Eme

    Is this a private jet? Yay!! No parasites!

  • Eme

    And the other one (memory again – can’t remember the name).

  • Eme

    Yes, please, let that happen, Universe.

  • Eme

    Ditto!

  • Eme

    I really like most of the designs. It’s a beautiful collection.

  • Anna

    IDK. There was no pics of him, no trace of him in NOLA either (during Underwater filming).

  • Anna

    Um. Bernie (a she) is in that pic, Cole (a she) is on that plane, too, which leaves with wondering where the hell Bear (a he) is.

  • Anna

    Yup! It’s a private jet.

  • Eme

    Ahh, I thought that was the other dog (Bernie). So both Cole & Bernie with our girl. Sigh. Bear. He was the first rescue, right? So I’m guessing he is the oldest of the 3.

  • Anna

    He was the first rescue, yes, but Bernie is older (they got her a year or so later — in 2012 — when she was already 4 or 5 so ………………).

  • Eme

    Uh oh. 🙁

  • Anna

    Yeah ………………………

  • Eme

    I’m kinda surprised she doesn’t use private jets more often. Although, I’m assuming it’s because of the dogs.
    Does it seem like the dogs are traveling with her more often these days?

  • Eme

    And, lol, thank you, Anna, for reminding me of the furry ones’ genders!

  • Anna

    Any time. LOL

  • BrendaStar

    Thanks, MCR, for the transcription. You’re making it easy for the rest of us.

  • Anna

    It’s really rare for her to fly private. I don’t think she finds it necessary.
    And yes, I think this time it’s because of the dogs.
    Underwater was the first time she had them with her on location during filming. Maybe what happened to Bear made her take them and have them with her all the time (if anything happened to him).

  • Eme

    Didn’t she have one of the dogs with her during filming in NOLA (can’t remember the film) in 2013, I think? She was at a park playing frisbee & it was her birthday.

  • Anna

    None of those dogs were hers. One looked like Cole but it wasn’t her.

  • Eme

    Oh, ok. Well I’m glad the furry ones are with her.

  • Anna

    I’m glad, too.
    And I hope Bear is perfectly fine (even if we don’t get to see a glimpse of him ever again).

  • Anna

    9. “Personal Shopper” (Olivier Assayas, France) (36 lists)

    https://twitter.com/AwardsDaily/status/885238705933484034

  • Eme

    Me too.

  • Toooten

    It’s also quite expensive to charter a private jet – it can easily cost $50.000+ for a single trip.

    – although I think the production companies pays for private flights under certain circumstances.

  • Toooten

    Actually I don’t think the dog[s] a problem when your flying private jets – it’s only a matter about how much you’re willing to pay.

  • Toooten

    She maybe had to put him to rest, and that’s a really hard thing to do – been there and it wasn’t pleasant.

  • Anna

    Same.
    Sigh.
    Lets hope nothing like that happened.

  • Anna

    OT

    Oh, ffs! (Compare that kind of “announcement” to coming out and *that* damage. Just saying.)

    https://twitter.com/EW/status/885315016215248896

  • Anna

    [Disclaimer: I know those two things aren’t the same. Of course I do. And I’m *not* against coming out if one decides to do it. My point was: for those who though everything will continue to be as it used to be re Kristen’s career, this should be more than enough of a proof that it definitely won’t (it’s already obvious it isn’t) — if saying you are sick is career threatening (WTF?!) imagine what not being straight (that still too many people see as a one’s choice in lifestyle) will do to it. SMH. Sigh.]

  • Anna

    I hope she will be OK after everything she went through. And I hope that f**king cancer won’t come back.

  • Eme

    Yes, that’s why I assumed she was flying by private jet – so she could bring the dogs without the hassle of commercial flying with all the regulations. Sorry I wasn’t more clear in my posts.
    I’ve never flown by private jet (lol!), but I imagine it is quite expensive!

  • Anna

    I think what Eme was trying to say is that Kristen took private jet so she could take the dogs with her. Otherwise, she would be on a commercial flight.

  • Eme

    Thanks, Anna!

  • Anna

    You are welcome.

    (BTW, re all this Bear talk . . . It’s possible that Kristen has a brand new puppy. Maybe. Based on Stella’s post. But *nothing* 100% confirmed.)

  • Anna

    Depends on a jet (and destination) but it ain’t cheap.

  • Eme

    I had to make that choice only once – and I have never been able to have another furry one since then. Never want to make that decision ever again. As much as I love dogs.

  • Eme

    Well, after having a few not so great experiences on my last trip, I certainly can see the advantages of traveling by private jet!

  • Eme

    Awww. Bear. Sigh.

  • Anna

    Yeah. Because *if* this new puppy thing is true then Bear ……………… 🙁

  • Eme

    Yeah. 🙁

  • Eme

    Me too!

  • Eme

    This is the dark side of professional life! The fact is that there are many *things* in one’s personal life that can affect one’s career. And in HW, women have to be especially careful.
    I’m definitely not saying it’s right. Not at all.

  • Anna

    Yup. Fair or not, that’s their reality. SMH

  • Anna

    If you are from Brooklyn (well, NYC) this might interest you.

    https://twitter.com/RooftopCinema/status/885389607382241280

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  • MCR

    What *might* help is more of an anti-reaction from the public. More of a “who in his right mind cares about that?” kind of reaction. It sounds feeble, but that’s often how public perception changes.

  • Anna

    As we predicted (not that it was too hard to do), Kristen didn’t get that Emmy nom.

    https://twitter.com/JarettSays/status/885530030071099393

  • Anna

    Agree.
    But . . . Nowadays, public perception is created by the media. What’s acceptable/desirable is dictated by them. People rarely go beyond that and make their conclusions. It’s from the top down scheme, not the other way around.

  • OG Guest

    They don’t nominate movie star hosts in that category, especially not ones with no comedy background. It’s almost always former SNL cast members who return to host and comedy geniuses. It’s cool that NBC put Kristen’s name up over others but there was no way she was getting nominated.

  • Anna

    But all other SNL ladies “killed it”. LOL
    (Wiig, McCarthy + Dayer, Jones, McCannon)

    https://twitter.com/JarettSays/status/885525707903778817

  • Anna

    There are always exceptions and first times for everything.
    That being said, even if they did nominate celebrity guest hosts, Kristen’s competition this year was too strong. So, ~rule or no ~rule, she wouldn’t have gotten in.
    Agree that it was nice to see her name on NBC’s FYC list.

  • Anna

    Also, one more thing that never changes: Meryl Streep was nominated. LOL

  • Gina

    OT but interesting.. (I’ve changed my opinion of her for better after The Age of Adelaine and CS):
    http://www.elle.com/culture/celebrities/news/a46580/blake-lively-the-rhythm-section-assassin-role/

  • BrendaStar

    It really encourages people when they read about people like Kathy Bates who confront cancer. I admire her decision to come out with this.

  • BrendaStar

    JMO Blake Lively is proof that not all bias against women is inflicted by men or society. Blake was put down and sometimes viciously demeaned by other women. I read it all the time. She couldn’t be a good actress for no reason that I could find except because she was beautiful, sweet, and traditional. I read comments from highly educated women on the internet that always put her down and wouldn’t give her a chance.

  • Anna

    She’s doing good in her career.
    Never had anything against her. But I’m not a fan either. She seems to be nice, OK person. And not a bad actress either.
    Wish her the best.

  • Anna

    Yeah but even those women who hate on her are doing it because they probably see her as a threat in their race/war for men’s affection/attention.

  • Toooten

    Correct, but that would’ve been a really really long shot – what’s her total on-screen time, 15 minutes or so?

    I must admit I didn’t even expected NBC to put her name on the list in the first place, so that was a nice nod to Kristen imo.

  • Toooten

    Jep, just as reliable as Old faithful. lol

  • Anna

    Well, that particular category is about guest appearances so their screen time is expected to be — short (otherwise, they would be in supporting acting categories). And Kristen was part of some good skits (namely Totino’s). But, competition ………………………

    Yeah, that was nice. Although, I tend wonder whether they did that because they really thought she deserves it (the FYC ad) or just because she’s, you know, Kristen Stewart (I’m too cynical for my own good, I know).

  • Anna

    LOL!!!

  • Eme

    LOL!! But . . . true.

  • BrendaStar

    That could be a part of it as jealousy influences our behavior. I still believe we are accountable for our actions and choices. I loved it when Kristen said she was bored with talking about women being held back in Hollywood, and it was time to do something about it. I’m not saying it is unreasonable to talk about it. It is important to think about and discuss. However, there is no excuse when jealous women go after another woman on the internet for no valid reason.

  • Eme

    We are our own worst enemies when it comes to hating on other women. Js.

  • BrendaStar

    Exactly!

  • Eme

    Yeah, nothing against her at all. Glad she’s doing well in her career. Always wish the best for women to do well in their careers.

  • Eme

    I just think it was wonderful and hilarious at the same time that she was in the mix for that category! An actress unfairly maligned for not having a humorous bone in her body gets mentioned in a category with all these wonderful comedians – I laughed so hard and gave the middle finger salute to all the haters!

  • Eme

    And, for what? Not that it matters. She can just sit there and she’ll be nominated. LOL!!!

  • Anna

    True.
    I do think that majority of women who behave like that don’t do it intentionally. Meaning, that constant never ending competition with other women and its consequences isn’t their conscious decision — it’s something that comes instinctively.
    Of course, that doesn’t mean it should continue.

  • Anna

    Yup!

  • Anna

    She narrated documentary series on Netflix.

  • Eme

    Ok, so she sat and spoke. There you go.

  • Anna

    Maybe she was lying down? We’ll never know. ;P

  • Eme

    Doesn’t matter. She was still nominated. Probably lying down, drinking wine and eating potato chips. 😛

  • Anna

    (Oh, God! Not lying down in ~that sense. Ugh, no! I was just trying to make a joke about that sitting part. But it didn’t sound well in writing.)

  • Anna

    Potato chips?! How — ordinary. LOL!

  • Eme

    Let’s give them the benefit of the doubt. They thought she deserved it.

  • Eme

    Hahaha! I did not even go there . . . but now?!!!! Ewww!!!

  • Eme

    My point exactly. Even when she’s doing something ordinary she still gets nominated. And, not shading at all. FACT.

  • Anna

    Sorryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!

  • Eme

    😛

  • Anna

    Won’t claim otherwise (despite my cynicism).

  • Anna

    Fact!

  • Eme

    😉

  • Eme

    For that to happen there has to be a measure of critical thinking on the part of the public. And, unfortunately, as we see time and time again – the public is severely lacking in that skill. Imo.

  • Eme

    Agree.

  • OG Guest

    They did it because they thought she had the best shot at a nomination over others. They could’ve put Emma Stone’s name into consideration. She’s more recognised as a comedic actress than Kristen and she has more mainstream appeal. Likewise for Margot Robbie. But Kristen had better reviews than both, for her performance and for the overall episode. They didn’t gain publicity by putting her name down. They didn’t gain viewers. They submitted those who they felt could have the best chance st a nomination.

  • Anna

    Yes but none of them “came out” on *live* television.
    Kristen’s episode was better than Margot’s and Emma S.’ but it will be forever remembered by “I’m so gay, dude!” line (and that F bomb and Melissa’s first appearance as S. Spicer), not because of her performance (that wasn’t bad).
    No, they didn’t gain publicity by putting her on that list but they knew that, in case she gets nominated, they would get much more attention from that compared to Emma’s potential nom, for example.
    Like with every awards race, Emmys too are all about the ~game (and not solely about quality of someone’s work).

  • Anna

    Bummer Kristen had to go to Canada. But prep for filming comes first.

    https://twitter.com/voguemagazine/status/885597424416325632

  • gillian kemp

    I’m glad she is working. I hope we hear about a new role!!

  • Anna

    After she’s done with JT, she’ll have 3 film waiting to be released. I think she’ll take a break, finish that gun control short and maybe even try to make her first feature film. I don’t expect to see her in front of camera for a year or maybe even longer. But who knows.

  • MCR

    Definitely. Don’t get me started on the education system. Basic logic should be included in every public school curriculum from about the sixth grade upward. And when I’m Empress of the World, it shall be so!

  • Anna

    @cjscissorhands
    #throwbackthursday to that time we walked a mile in the snow to stand for something real, not only women’s rights but basic human rights. Never forget. (Ps. Missing the snow it’s so damn hot out)

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BWgW0EllVGY/

  • BrendaStar

    Very cute

  • Anna

    Re that new puppy I mentioned yesterday……………

    It’s Stella’s. She adopted him (not Kristen although she and Cole were probably there with her when she did it) on that day when she was out with Kristen in her old blue pickup truck. Mystery solved. Well, one of them. We still have no idea where’s Bear.

    @stellamaxwell
    Our first picture ❤️ rescued in Van Nuys, LA. #adoptdontshop ❤️

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BWg35J9BOGm/?taken-by=stellamaxwell

  • Anna

    (I’m not even sure he’s a puppy. Either way, he isn’t/won’t be big as Kristen’s dogs so he will be easy to carry around. He’s already on his first trip.)

  • Eme

    You go, MCR!

  • Eme

    I love that all the dogs are rescue dogs. Such a wonderful way to get a pet.
    Wherever Bear is, I hope he’s happy.

  • Eme

    So, he’s with the other dogs in Canada? That’s nice.

  • Anna

    No, he is with Stella in LA (he has that collar around his neck so I guess he had some kind of medical treatment). But, Stella is traveling somewhere (I don’t think it’s Canada, not yet at least, but who knows) right now, with him (she posted from the airport).

  • Anna

    Ditto.

  • Eme

    Oh, ok. Thanks.
    What a lucky dog! One day a rescue; the next day on a flight to a new place. Probably the first of many.

  • Anna

    Yup! That one is going to become a real globetrotter. LOL

  • Eme

    And be around a lot of beautiful people!

  • Anna

    A dream of every guy ;P

  • Eme

    Yup! 😉

  • Anna

    In one of her comments, she said she’ll get to follow around Laura Dern next week like she did with Kristen and Diane yesterday.

    https://twitter.com/missAloveislov/status/885803036727287809

  • Anna

    (Scratch that because fandom’s CSI crew says it’s Canada after all.)

  • Anna

    Interesting. Wonder if they met with Kristen. She would have loved it as a big fan of road trips.

    https://twitter.com/Fashionista_com/status/885833855399342080

  • Anna

    (P.S. I want that catalog because those pics are really good.)

  • Eme

    So, did she leave after Kristen?

  • Anna

    Kristen left on early Wednesday, Stella late yesterday (CSI says to Canada).

  • Eme

    Thank you, Anna. Got to love those CSIs!

  • Anna

    You are welcome.

    Those folks are scary. LOL
    We’ll see if they are right.

  • Eme

    Are they? Like in a creepy stalker way? Or did you mean that comment to be on the humorous tongue-in-cheek way?

  • Eme

    Yay! Love to hear she’s rehearsing.

  • Eme

    Yes, she really captured the colors.

  • Anna

    Well, there are few subgroups. Some are scary in a “get away from me!” way because they are creepy stalkers while others are simply really good at connecting the dots (by searching through publicly available/posted data) and have extremely sharp eyes.

  • Anna

    Yeah.
    I just don’t know how is that person supposed to be a stand in for both Kristen and Diane (and possibly even Laura). Are they that cheap (producers, I mean)?

  • Eme

    Yes, of course, there would be subgroups. Nothing about fandoms is simple. Lol.

  • Anna

    It’s all about particular ~agendas.

  • Eme

    I had the same thought about standing in for all of them. Weird.

  • Eme

    Ah, yes. Agendas. Smh. Bbl.

  • Anna

    Extremely.
    But . . . I can’t say I’m surprised. I mean, I have a gut feeling they’ve chosen Winnipeg just because one of production companies is located in that city (and not because it’s the best place to film their movie and tell that story). So, my low hopes for this movie are getting even lower.

  • Anna

    Stay safe!

  • MCR

    If much of the film takes place underwater, the actual location may not matter much. A tank of water is a tank of water.

  • MCR

    So sweet! And great publicity for rescue dogs.

  • Anna

    Um. I’m talking about JT, not Underwater (which was filmed in a studio so its location was irrelevant).

  • Eme

    For Kristen’s French fans – Happy Bastille Day!

  • Anna
  • OG Guest

    You’re thinking of a double. They couldn’t have one person be a double for 3 actors. A stand in is not the same as a double. Stand ins are used before filming, doubles are used during filming. The wiki article below is very helpful.

    “A stand-in for film and television is a person who substitutes for the actor before filming, for technical purposes such as lighting and camera setup. … Stand-ins are distinguished from body doubles, who replace actors on camera from behind, in makeup, or during dangerous stunts.”

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stand-in

  • gillian kemp

    Kristen’s character was a stand-in for her employee, in PS.

  • Anna

    I know those two aren’t the same.
    But the reason stand-ins exist is so that camera and light crews could set up scenes before actual filming starts. In that sense, a stand-in doesn’t have to look like an actor/actress in the way double is supposed to but he/she needs to be approximately of the same body type. When it comes to that, Laura Dern and Kristen look quite different so having the same stand-in person for both doesn’t seem logical.

  • Anna

    Out of necessity, not by choice.

  • OG Guest

    It just doesn’t matter with a stand in, really. It’s just for purposes of approximating wherever the actor will go, finding their marks, etc. They’ll obviously adjust as they go through filming but a stand in is never on screen. Pretty much anyone can be a stand in.

  • Eme

    Thank you, Anna, for bringing this over! I saw it earlier & hoped you’d bring it to the board!

  • Anna

    Why didn’t you ask me to?

    You are welcome.

  • Eme

    Because I don’t like to ask since it’s my choice not to be on Twitter. And, you already do a lot for the board. 🙂

  • Eme

    Thanks for this info, OG Guest. Didn’t know any of this info.

  • Anna

    Well, yeah, but minis aren’t a bad thing (like so many other stuff there) so that wouldn’t be a problem. LOL

  • Eme

    Ok, maybe I won’t be so shy the next time. Especially for the minis!

  • Eme

    Wonder how much a stand in gets paid. Seems like a perk would be meeting an actor you like.

  • OG Guest

    You’re welcome.

  • Anna

    Depends on how much work they are doing. I’ve heard about some cases where a stand-in was spending whole days on set working on scenes as if he/she was acting in a movie, only it wasn’t filmed to be used in a movie. And then sometimes they are there for just couple of last touches.
    Sadly, they don’t always get to meet actors/stars (it happens a lot but not always).

  • Eme

    Thanks, Anna. Sounds like the kind of job that requires a lot of patience and the ability to be flexible.

  • Anna

    Yup. And to know your way on a movie set (who is who, what is what, who is in charge for this or that, what is used for this or that, ect.).

  • MCR

    Oops.

  • Anna

    😉

  • Anna
  • Anna

    Um, no.
    I suggest you to take your own advice and read that piece you posted above (seeing you don’t believe anything I have to say).

    It can’t be the same when you are adjusting lights for someone who is 5ft4in tall vs. for 6ft2in person, for example, and so on and on. Body type *is* important.

  • Anna

    Here, I’ll help you:

    “Stand-ins do not necessarily look like the actor, but they must have the same skin tone, hair color, height and build as the actor so that the lighting in a scene will be set up correctly. For example, if the lighting is set up with a stand-in shorter than an actor, the actor might end up having his or her head in relative darkness.”

  • OG Guest

    And? One actress is 5’5″, one is 5’7″, and one is 5’10”. Not the one foot of height difference you needed to dramatically invent. The stand in probably falls right in the middle, creating at most a difference of a couple of inches. Not enough to make too much of a difference but we all know how you need the sky to fall on a daily basis. I’m going to take a wild guess that these people know more about it than you do, and that they know what’s appropriate. If you hear about Laura Dern’s head being cut off in darkness then you can have yet another meltdown.

  • Anna

    Body type isn’t just person’s hight (I used it just as an simple example).

    And you know what, I’m not going to discuss these things with you anymore. First you say a stand-in doesn’t have to resemble to actor/actress he/she is replacing (thus proving you didn’t even read the piece you yourself willingly posted) and now you are saying “well yes, it does matter but their difference in hight isn’t all that big so who cares” ignoring the fact that there’s more to a person’s body than how tall they are. A production that can’t or won’t hire more than one stand-in is . . . not good at their job, no matter how you look at it.
    You just want to prove *me* wrong regardless of common sense and basic logic of this subject. Well, I’m not going to play that game, dear.
    Bye!

  • BrendaStar

    Oh my, such sweethearts. I mean Stella and the puppy.

  • OG Guest

    Sorry you can’t comprehend someone saying that something doesn’t matter so much but even if it did really matter, there’s nothing wrong with the situation at hand when dealing with a couple of inches. And yes, I’m sure YOU know better than everyone working on the film. They’re wrong, you’re right. The professionals who have been working at this for years need to be taking tips from a pissed off internet poster. Sure.

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    Love this. Wish her and her pup the best…
    (Maybe even blond models aren’t all shallow, after all… I’m kidding of course, but it’s important reminder – not to pigeonhole people)

  • Anna

    Wonder if there will be a “celebration” in Winnipeg. Happy Birthday, Diane!

    https://twitter.com/Road2Oscars/status/886122527860314113

  • Anna

    He seems to be like one of those quiet calm chill dogs.
    Wonder if Stella is going to take him with her everywhere she goes from now on.

  • Anna

    Never did that.
    Nowadays, quite a few super models are much more than just pretty faces/bodies (some for the better and some not really).

  • Anna
  • MCR

    I haven’t seen that much of her work, but she was fantastic in The Bridge, and in Farewell, My Queen. Looking forward to more.

  • MCR

    LOL I have to remind myself of this all the time. I don’t think I pigeonhole people very often, but fashion models are a particular challenge.

  • MCR

    Thank you! May the impure blood of tyrants run in the gutters! 🇫🇷

  • Anna
  • Anna

    If you were to pair this movie with another for a double feature, what would be your pick?

    Personal Shopper by Olivier Assayas is my favorite movie of the year so far. It’s an amazing ghost movie, and I didn’t even know it was a ghost movie when I went to see it. It’s a masterful movie—I just can’t stop thinking about it. I hope Criterion puts it out because I want to own it on Blu-ray. I would love to program a double feature of that and A Ghost Story. I don’t watch this movie anymore because I’m done with it, but I would definitely sit through it again to watch it with Personal Shopper.

  • Anna
  • gillian kemp

    Do you believe they would release it on Criterion?

  • Anna

    It’s not as acclaimed as CoSM was but it did win Best Director in Cannes.
    So I honestly don’t know. It can be, it’s definitely not impossible but I’m not as confident as I was with CW this year, for example.

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  • gillian kemp

    This is a talented cast. I have high hopes for this movie.

  • BrendaStar

    OT:.War for the Planet of the Apes is a moody, thoughtful film in case anyone is looking for a good film to watch. You don’t need to have seen any of the others to enjoy it. The BO was not great, it is a bit slow at times, and film could have been shorter, but RT is 95%, script is great, acting is great, visuals are great, the last half hour is dramatic and riveting.

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  • Eme

    She reminds me of a blond Riley Keough in this picture. She has a different look about her – somehow she looks somehow older here, a bit different. Maybe her expression?

  • Eme

    This has potential to be really, really good with a stellar cast. Crossing fingers that Kristen brings it to this one and *disappears* into both characters. She certainly has two talented co-stars to work with, so bring it on, people!!!

  • Anna

    Well, the way I see it, they are good (not the best but, when well guided, they can do great work) but the person who needs to oversee everything and control the quality of the work (i.e. director) is not good at his job nor is the material they will be working on (i.e. the book/script). So, IMO, the cast can do only so much.
    Kristen played great characters so many times in the past but in movies done by (below) average directors based on poorly written scripts and we all know what happened and how it all ended. Same case here.

  • Anna
  • Eme

    Hope Train riding again, Anna. It may be all for naught in this case, but still ……….

  • Eme

    I really like the idea of seeing a film on a rooftop. Cute idea!

  • Anna

    Perfectly fine with me 🙂

  • Anna

    @dianekruger
    First day jitters #JT #KristenStewart #LauraDern ❤️

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BWpsdsYlIBj/

  • Anna
  • Anna

    Oh! (Still need official confirmation.)

    https://twitter.com/J_Rosenfield/status/886983023081730048

  • Eme

    If true, well deserved. After all, PS won at Cannes for Olivier and CoSM won at Cesar for Kristen. Js.

  • Eme

    Which makes 3 of Kristen’s films Criterion collection!!

  • gillian kemp

    Wow! I hope it’s true. Three films added, in just a few years.

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  • Eme

    One of the best covers/posters for PS.

  • Anna

    There were better cover arts posted by TIFF the other day, IMO, although that one isn’t bad either (anything but that Cannes poster, tbh). It’s maybe too simple but oh well. I like CoSM and CW covers more.

  • Eme

    Thank you, Ms. Anna, for the confirmation. So both CW and PS coming out in October. All right, all right!

  • Anna

    You are welcome.

    No, CW is due this Sept, PS in Oct.

  • Eme

    I just think it captures the utter isolation & grief Maureen embodied.

  • Anna

    It does! But it’s nothing more than a still from a movie slightly edited.

  • Eme

    Oh, I guess I just scrolled through the titles and saw both of them. My bad!

  • Eme

    Ah, I see. I guess I wasn’t thinking about actual artistry for the cover. Don’t ask. Doesn’t make sense to me either, lol.

  • Anna

    LOL!

    (I’m used to seeing them putting much more effort in those covers, is all.)

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  • MCR

    Very positive review, especially for Kristen’s performance.

    “…we witness a fascinatingly spiritual drama that deals with grief, loss and misunderstanding in ways beyond the standard. What helps us along on this journey is a grounded and yet transcendent performance from Stewart who fully envelopes the world that surrounds her and takes us there.
    Overall, the key to the whole story is the performance by Kristen Stewart who delivers on all fronts as Maureen by being a believable, captivating lead that draws your attention to her every emotion. I’d recommend seeking out Certain Women to watch her continuation of her ever-expanding talent with different challenges.”

  • MCR

    Nice – but Fire Walk doesn’t deserve to be included, and this is a big Twin Peaks fan talking!

  • Anna

    I think that one is one of those polarizing movies (same as PS): you either hate it or love it.

  • BrendaStar

    OT:Christopher Nolan ‘s Dunkirk was called a masterpiece by Variety. It is being released in USA this weekend.

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  • gillian kemp

    Nice review!

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  • MCR

    Another very positive review, and more high praise for Kristen’s performance! It also mentions a few details other reviewers haven’t mentioned.

    “Kristen Stewart, in one of her finest performances…”

    “It’s a riveting, unhurried supernatural drama with a brilliantly compelling central performance from the very talented Kristen Stewart.”

    “…a beautifully rendered tale of emotions in flux; a beguiling curiosity that begs to be seen again… and again.”

  • CJ

    This is so cute! Stella sleeping in Kristen’s trailer with Trip (the dog’s name). Kristen probably recorded it. https://twitter.com/ridll/status/887110453192732674

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  • Anna

    Or Suzie.

  • BrendaStar

    Thanks, Anna, for the details and reviews. I hope to see Dunkirk this weekend.

  • BrendaStar

    So very cute, and Stella appears to to be a devoted mom.

  • gillian kemp

    Now, if it could just get awards attention.

  • Eme

    YES!!!!!

  • Anna
  • CJ

    Suzie was wearing different pants (you can see the person’s tight in beginning of the video).

  • Anna

    I know. But that person’s knee/thigh/leg is too big for it to be Kristen’s (as are those other sneakers next to Stella’s).
    Either way, it doesn’t really matter.

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  • Eme

    Actually, I agree now that I’m reminded of all the different art that was done for PS from various sources.

  • Eme

    But then, it depicts a moment in the film that deals with identity and not so much the grief and isolation that is so prevalent in the film. Ah well, can’t have everything!

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    Personal Shopper

    Yes, this Kristen Stewart-texts-with-a-ghost movie has received a lot of snickers. But for the truly adventurous, this ghost story is one of the most profound films of the year. If A Ghost Story is about time, this ghost story is about communication—the various ways we conduct it and how simple answers we desire are hard to come by when there are two people—let alone a spirit—communicating.

    Stewart is phenomenal as a shopper who works for a model that she basically never sees, just drops off her new designer clothes in her apartment that rarely hosts her. She’s in Paris hoping to make spiritual contact with her deceased twin brother. Her pursuit is a ghost, she essentially works for a ghost, and she herself moves through the city as if she’s a ghost. Olivier Assayas’ lyrical film is about the isolating feeling when communication falters. There is a lengthy text message scene with a spirit that includes the typing dots and read receipts. We can visualize when we’re being engaged and when we’re being ignored via information on a phone and the future is only more detached. And the more detached we get, the less likely we’ll be able to connect to the spirits of the previous world. — Brian Formo

  • Anna

    @sallylyndley
    #kirstenstewart styled by me in #louisvuitton for #britishgq
    #fromthearchives #babesarebusy #lovethiswoman #howtofashion #sallylyndley

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BWuywv2Bh3L/

  • MCR

    Nice one, in spite of the Twilight disclaimer. Glad critics have finally started giving that a miss.

  • gillian kemp

    I like this review. Has everyone had the opportunity to see it.

  • Eme

    Yeah, but hope there comes a day when there isn’t even a disclaimer. Or, how about no mention at all? And start the critique with the films that showcase her talent – CoSM, CW, Still Alice, etc. Idk. Just a thought …………..

  • Eme

    It’s good. I didn’t care for the first sentence but, otherwise, good review.

  • MCR

    The time is coming.

  • Eme

    Cannot.come.soon.enough.

  • Anna

    Um. Shouldn’t movie’s *director* be the one to say who gets to be in the scene and not its producer? Sigh. SMH

    https://twitter.com/GeneTurcotte/status/887825934606372864

  • Anna

    Um. Not happening ANY time soon.
    Twilight is still *the* only movie she’s known for (the only thing aside from the scandal that people worldwide associate with her name/persona).
    No indie can/will change that. Unless she wins an Oscar for it. And maybe not even then (not that I believe she ever will).
    That’s just how things are.

  • Anna

    @jilliandempsey
    #wcw to the talented kristen Stewart… she’s street, punk, cool and most of all beautiful on the inside and out! Who is your #wcw

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BWwFhXTjI6d/

  • Anna

    OT

    Kelly Reichardt: #13. (Alfonso Cuarón is #1.) This is like a list of those Kristen should try to work with.

    https://twitter.com/metacritic/status/887934817001586688

  • gillian kemp

    I would love for Kristen to work with Reichardt again. Only this time, I want Kristen to the lead character.

  • MCR

    Hmm…can’t access the actual list.

  • Anna

    Click on “View our ranking….” link above that pic in the article and the slide show will appear.

  • MCR

    Nope. Must be my computer.

  • Anna

    New/old. (Oct 21st 2015)

    @kalel259
    #TBT #kristenstewart #JesseIsenberg #UltraAmerica #CafeSociety 📷🎬

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BWyDQUFBHWy/?taken-by=kalel259&hl=en

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    I really like her in that picture – she’s very pretty.

  • Anna

    Yes but that’s Vonnie, not Kristen. If ykwim.

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  • gillian kemp

    I guess IFC is going to make a small effort, to promote Kristen. I am not hearing positive things about Nicholas’ new movie.

    http://www.goldderby.com/article/2017/ifc-films-oscars-2018-personal-shopper-rebel-in-the-rye/

  • Anna

    I have zero confidence in IFC. I bet they won’t even bother to send proper screeners, they’ll just say: “Well, it’s on Criterion, you can order and pay it yourselves.”
    I mean, if they didn’t do anything for CoSM, I doubt they’ll really try with PS.
    Maybe I’ll be proven wrong. Lets hope.

    Agree re Nicholas’ film. From what I’ve read, it’s far from being bad bad — it’s just too average (if there is such a thing as too average).

  • gillian kemp

    Let’s hope they learned something from CoSM. Kristen could have gotten something, if IFC has made a real effort.

  • Anna

    I don’t think they did. Unfortunately.

    She could have. But she didn’t. And that is *the* biggest missed opportunity of her entire career, so far.
    (For the record, I’m not saying that was her fault. No, it was ALL because of f**king IFC.)

  • Anna

    New pics.

    Kristen on set with Stella and Trip (Stella’s dog). They way she’s holding him . . . LOL! (But that kiss . . . cute! Everyone wants to be that pup now. LOL)

    And she has two tone blond hair again. Sigh.
    (Watch her get a new buzz cut — and maybe even that head tattoo — after she’s done with filming to fix that color.)

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    🙁

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  • Eme

    Oh, I like this critic. Any critic that puts Kristen’s acting at Amy Adams (Arrival) and Natalie Portman (Black Swan) level wins in my book. And, when I saw PS, Kristen’s performance did remind me of Natalie’s in Black Swan!!

  • Eme

    They could start by sending screeners to the Academy, js. (And with enough time that they can actually view it!).

  • Eme

    Wonder if she changed the color for the film. Yes, I know she’s wearing wigs, but the main wig is blonde so …… or maybe they’re taking creative license with the story. Who knows.

  • Eme

    And cute pics with Trip. And, cute name – fits his current life – *trip* with his forever family.

  • Anna

    I think that’s definitely for the role.

  • Anna

    All 3 of them look like they just woke up. LOL

  • Anna

    I’m afraid they are too cheap for that. Good for nothing people!

  • Gina

    I hope everything is OK with the pup. Stella looks distressed… By the way, Trip doesn’t look like puppy, he’s apparently grown up dog..

  • Anna

    Distressed? I don’t think so. It’s more a face you make while in conversation with someone when you aren’t getting what they are talking about.

    Yeah, I said the same when Stella posted their first official pic on her instagram. His paws were a give away for me. But everyone calls him “the new pup” so……….

  • Eme

    Yeah. Jerks.

  • Eme

    Her hair really is sacrificed for roles!

  • Eme

    Ikr?!

  • Anna

    Yeah.
    And that might not be the best thing (when it comes to its health).

  • Eme

    No, not the best for her hair. But, like losing or gaining weight for a role – all for the art. (And true for all other physical changes that actors do for the role).

  • Eme

    Please. I can wait like forever for that head tattoo.

  • Eme

    And, the operative word in the sentence is *small*. Js.

  • Anna

    Same. But . . . *if* she is really going to take a break (from acting) for the rest of this year and probably whole next year, she might do it. I mean, every time she plays a character that gets to her on some level or when she’s having ~unique experience filming a movie, she ends up getting a new tattoo after she’s done (Guernica after CoSM, 2 dogs tattoo after Equals, “one more time with feeling” after PS and “come swim” after Come Swim). Savannah and JT definitely fit to that pattern, IMO. So, time off + right film + her long time wish (to tattoo her head) and she might get it in a month or so. I hope not but I’m also preparing for it as if it is happening.

  • Eme

    All you have said makes sense about the possibility of a head tattoo in the near future. I will await the real possibility with a sigh & acceptance. After all, much bigger problems in my neck of the woods to worry about, js.

  • Anna

    Oh, of course!
    But it doesn’t mean either of us will like it. And, if she gets it, watch her showing it proudly in front of paps which will then make headlines and then…………….. You know where I’m going with this.
    Anyway, her head, her hair, her life. Real world outside is too scary to really care about her possible new tattoos.

  • Eme

    OT. Just saw a hilarious interview of Tiffany Haddish (who is getting lots of attention as the *one* in Girls Trip) on the Jimmy Kimmel show (not a fan). She is a great ambassador for the film.

  • Anna

    Saw it, too. She sure is something. LOL

  • Eme

    Yup.

  • Eme

    Yeah, she’s refreshing in the way she kinda shades both Jada & Will but in a way that it’s clear they’re friends. I’m also not familiar with her work so this was my introduction to her. Lol!

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  • Eme

    There you go.

  • Anna

    Apparently, she’s been very well known and loved in world of (stand up) comedians but wasn’t introduced to the wide audience up until now and this movie.

  • Eme

    That’s about to change if predictions come true (reference your post above).

  • Anna

    Yup!

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    Blond wigs look fine but the ginger ones . . . not really. I mean, you could tell that JT was wearing wigs while out in public and that’s why those blond wigs are OK looking. But that shouldn’t be the case with other wigs and yet it’s so damn obvious. Sigh.

  • Anna

    Also, and I kinda have had this feeling right from the start, it looks like Laura and Kristen might be co-leads in that movie (instead of Kristen being a clear lead). Not that it matters much.
    We’ll see.

  • csm123

    Ginger wigs are exactly the way they should be. Google “Laura Albert”. Also if the movie closely follows Savannah’s book then Laura should be in about 70-80% of the movie. Her role should be similar in length to Kristen’s COSM role.

  • Anna

    I did my homework long time ago but thanks.
    Still think those ginger wigs aren’t the best (compared to what they should look like) but that’s just me.
    I know that, too. It’s just that, depending on a budget (and by the look of things, it’s quite small), they might leave out some bigger scale scenes (which don’t include Laura’s character) thus making hers and Kristen’s screen time pretty much the same. We’ll see.

  • csm123

    It is a Tier 2 production so the budget is in $6-9 million range. That’s fine for a movie like this. They may have increased Laura’s role but there are subplots involving Savannah’s life that don’t involve Laura and that will be in the movie for sure.

  • Anna

    I hope you are right about that budget but I’m not believing it till I see the actual number. They worked on getting enough funding till the last day, almost, and that’s when you are usually forced to make cuts.
    I didn’t say Laura will be in every scene. She will probably have her own scenes without Kristen.

  • Anna

    MCR, here’s that list you couldn’t open the other day.

    https://twitter.com/IndieWire/status/888809836313325568

  • MCR

    Thank you so much!
    Wow, quite a list. Some of the names I don’t recognize – new material to check out! Some are already favourites; a couple I disagree with; and I think Michael Haneke and Denis Villeneuve should have been on the list. But I’m glad to see at least a few female directors – Kelly Reichardt included.

  • Anna

    You are welcome.

    It’s based on Metacritic scores of their movies released in this century so, basically, it’s critics’ favorites list.

  • Anna

    So . . . Chanel is starting Gabrielle perfume promo on their social media with posts from the launch party. And the first clip they posted features . . . Pharrell Williams, not Kristen, fragrance’s official face (hers is second).

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BW2xu0jA4uP/?taken-by=chanelofficial

    IDK, this and other videos they made/released right after PFW this month are kinda showing their diminishing trust in Kristen’s appeal/ability to sell that thing (yes, I know they picked and signed her for that job but that happened a year ago and since then things . . . changed). Anyway, that’s how it looks to me.

  • csm123

    laura_albert @lauradern those look better than the ones I had! 😜

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BW1RjCoADMT/

  • Anna

    Exactly. All smooth and silky and just . . . not how they should look like.

  • nonA

    that’s great for Kelly and also Mia Hansen-Love, but interestingly no ranking for her husband. although his stuff can be polarizing.

    i finally got to see Certain Women streaming, it was much better than i expected, knowing that the complaint about Kelly’s films are the s-l-o-w nature of them. i like the lingering shots and landscapes, but i do get annoyed sometimes at her characters’ understated, depressive delivery. (i was about ready to throttle the two guys in “Old Joy”, even though it was a beautifully shot film!) But Lily Gladstone was truly outstanding & Kristen was great support for her, not many actresses would have done that up against an unknown inexperienced scene partner.

    (p.s. the corgi did steal every scene he/she was in!)

  • MCR

    Kelly Reichardt is kind of an acquired taste. I think her movies are fantastic; but they definitely are slow paced and undramatic, and usually about characters and situations nobody makes movies about. It’s what makes her special. I’m not surprised Kristen was willing to take on the role, although as you say not many actresses would.

  • Anna

    I think they would (it’s an opportunity to work with Kelly and be in one of her films, after all) but what they wouldn’t do is underplay it that way and let Lily shine.
    I just hope that selfishness will pay off one day (IMO, she’s not getting enough credit for that, not nearly enough).

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    Agree totally.

  • Eme

    Glad you got to see the movie. And that furry thing was such a scene stealer. So adorbs!!

  • MCR

    I assume you meant UNselfishness? In which case I definitely agree with you; her directors probably appreciate it, and it makes a better movie, but somewhat at her expense.

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    Ooops! Typo. Sorry.

    Exactly. And not many people (co-stars, directors, producers) are ready to acknowledge that publicly, either. Somehow, people think she’s a selfish actor (I’ve seen many “Really?! But I always thought she’s difficult to work with, all angry and always stuck in her head, hard to communicate with.” comments from industry people on interviews in which Kelly or Jesse were saying how she’s really like on sets). Sigh.
    And when she lets others shine (like Lily), most think it’s because she isn’t capable of being as good, like she’s bad actor.

  • CJ

    According to this doc, it is a Tier 2 prod https://www.iatse856.com/assets/Current-Productions/ProductionUpdate.pdf

    And Tier 2 is in this range: $5,500,001 – $9,350,000 Million

  • Anna

    Well, if its budget really is somewhere in that range . . . good luck to them getting it back cause they’ll need it (CW had $2M budget, rave reviews, bigger stars, respected director and yet it earned, what, not even $1.1M).

    Also, those people listed working on it . . . so average (and some not even that).

  • Anna

    Uh oh. After Lizzie, another part with accent needed (although, this one is so much easier than Irish one). Also, watch Laura with her own double role steal that movie acting wise.

    https://twitter.com/AlexStto/status/889144016280985608

  • nonA

    definitely an acquired taste, or as i think Kristen mentioned a ‘particular’ type of filmmaking. it actually makes you watch closely….because the events are small and subtle.

    it seems like Laura Dern (who was also very good in CW) and Kristen share this team-oriented approach with focus on the experience and end product rather than their own self-promotion. Laura had the benefit of being from a Hollywood royal family but she has made her mark as an individual actor willing to take risks while still working ‘between the lines’.

  • nonA

    i watched “Author”, the JT Leroy documentary on/off this week – it’s really a trip, and not a pleasant one. Laura Albert went through damaging events during as a child and teenager, so that is the backstory to the fraud. but there is so little in the doc. about Savannah that there will be ample opportunity for Kristen to flesh out her participation and backstory. she might be the most sympathetic character in all of this. or was she also taking advantage & going along for the ego trip?

    anyway, the casting is spot-on.

    has anyone read Savannah’s book & can give an opinion on it?

  • gillian kemp

    I hope there are sympathetic characters. Nothing kills a movie for me, if I can’t feel any sympathy for the characters.

  • nonA

    i’m like that too. just read an article saying that Savannah at least has expressed remorse over manipulating innocent players in the hoax. and if any actor can make a character sympathetic, it’s Kristen!

  • Anna

    Kristen and Stella (with Suzie and others) crashed a wedding last night (accidentally?).
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFczvSDXUAEP_Pd.jpg

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    Um. All people in that story are . . . messed up. More or less. In one way or the other.

  • csm123

    It is a great, flamboyant , scenery chewing role that the Academy loves in supporting categories. If JT gets a good distributor and good reviews then Laura is very likely to win awards for her role.

  • csm123

    The story is from Savannah’s point of view and she is a sympathetic character. Others less so specially Diane’s character.

  • Anna

    If JT turns out to be a good movie (I strongly doubt that will be the case) and awards material (even bigger doubt), it might happen Laura will be campaigned as lead in it (older more established actress nominated in the past playing title character — for reference see: Carol and Rooney Mara vs. Cate B.).

  • MCR

    They can still be sympathetic. The best villains are those you can feel for a bit. And I gather these aren’t even real villains, just a bit wild and misguided.

  • csm123

    Nah, she will go supporting. She has yet to win an Oscar and it is a better role on paper than most that have won BSA Oscars in the past 10 years.

  • MCR

    Good example.

  • Anna

    Don’t underestimate award race politics. It isn’t fair.
    We’ll see anyway.
    Like I said, I doubt that movie will be good (not great or excellent, just solid) to begin with.

  • MCR

    I don’t like to even think about award race politics. It just makes me angry.

  • MCR

    ?? Why? Was this someone they knew?

  • csm123

    Laura hasn’t own an Oscar. If she has a potential awards winning performance she isn’t going to ruin it by going lead. Blanchett was a different case because she is a legit lead actress unlike Laura and she had already won twice before.

  • Anna

    True.
    It’s just that I don’t know how all that ~weirdness will be handled. People tend to be afraid of those who are too different/daring/damaged. It’s hard sometimes to evoke sympathy in cases like that.

  • Anna

    Um, Cate played title character but Carol was/is Rooney’s story.
    As for what Laura might or might not do, it’ll depend on multiple factors (distributor’s decision, competition, reception, ect.) and it won’t be fair. Because the race rarely is.

  • gillian kemp

    I know some aren’t enthusiast about the movie, but it looks interesting. Especially because it is based on real events.

  • csm123

    Maybe you should see Justin Kelly’s I am Michael. he made Michael look sympathetic and human.

  • gillian kemp

    Funny and embarrassing for everyone.

  • csm123

    Exactly. Cate had a case for going lead. Laura won’t if her role is similar to the one in the book. Anyway fairness has nothing to do with it.

  • Anna

    To how many people? I think you are approaching this thinking most people will be understanding. IMO, majority of people are judgmental and quite superficial.
    And that story has nothing on level of weirdness that is JT.

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    (This year is going to be quite messy, it seems.)

  • Anna

    Um. Laura is also playing title character, just like Cate did. And it might be that her role will be made bigger than it is in the book (same thing that happened with Carol).
    This is all us guessing but saying dismissively there’s no chance for Laura to go lead is . . . a bit naive, IMO.
    Anyway, ce sera sera.

  • Anna

    IDK. I think they went out and picked a place that had wedding happening inside. It looks like it was an accident.

  • Anna

    It looks like everyone just went with it. LOL

  • csm123

    Kristen is JT, the title character, not Laura. More to the point, supporting actress category is typically weaker so why would Laura, a primarily supporting actress, shun it to go lead when she can actually win awards in BSA ?

  • Anna

    Depends on a year. Sometimes there are just couple of good films with great leading performances while many actresses are shining in supporting roles in movies with male leads thus making that competition much stronger. Also, sometimes there’s a clear BSA winner (see: Patty Arquette in Boyhood) known right from the start of the race so those who want to have any chance, no matter how small, at winning will go for BA nom.
    Combinations are numerous.

  • Anna

    As for this whole thing who is playing title character . . . they both are. Savannah ‘personified’ JT, a fictional character, in public but, at the same time, Albert used JT as her pseudonym, she invented it all and she used it while giving phone interviews and stuff so she, too, was JT (Savannah just ‘lend’ her face). Like I said, it’s a real mess of a story. LOL

  • Anna

    Kristen with wedding DJ (she posted that pic above, too).

    @colpitts
    Dj’ed the MOST fun wedding for these incredible woman last night and had an unplanned guess show up to dance with us at the end of the night! Apparently Kristen Stewart loves Beastie boys !

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFdCGhvWAAAJmrE.jpg

  • Anna

    Kristen got drunk at that wedding (IDK if I would say drunk because Stella and Suzie were just a bit tipsy — there’s a video of them talking — but everyone is different so who knows), was hungover this morning so she skipped cooking class she had scheduled for today with Laura (plus, she had to drop off Stella and Trip at the airport).

    This lady is cook’s wife (she tweeted about the class earlier today):

    https://twitter.com/K_freeze/status/889247160214204417

  • Anna

    Here’s Laura (with JT director) taking that class:

    @lauradern
    Time to make the pizzas! @tojustinkelly

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BW5v8gwgbxU/?taken-by=lauradern

  • Anna

    Also, Jim arrived to Winniepeg yesterday and here’s him tasting pizza Laura made during that class (still can’t see those two playing a couple but oh well):

    @lauradern
    The aftermath @officialjimsturgess

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BW6DCCKgO7N/?taken-by=lauradern

  • Anna

    To sum it up: Kristen crashed a wedding last night and today she skipped/missed bonding time (in form of a pre-scheduled professional cooking class) with her co-stars (irresponsible behavior on her part if you ask me).

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  • OG Guest

    Except the title of that movie was Carol and this one is JT.

  • OG Guest

    Right, so now Kristen’s talent is in doubt because you don’t like the movie. Makes sense. If I recall correctly, they were in a movie together, though in separate scenes, and one didn’t get too much notice. Hint: it wasn’t Kristen.

  • OG Guest

    Really, just let her twist herself into knots in every effort to trash Kristen and her career.

  • OG Guest

    Lmao you’ve been touting this “they don’t trust her so her role is diminishing” BS for like a year and yet they keep signing her for campaigns, including their first fragrance in over a decade. Is your pathetic desperation to see her fail really clouding what little common sense you have? They wouldn’t put someone they do t trust as the face of such a fragrance. Period. You’re delusional if you think otherwise.

  • OG Guest

    This will surely end what little was left of her career! 😰

  • Anna

    You know something I don’t?

    (And you are right on time with your unsolicited defense of Kristen’s honor. How predictable. But it changes nothing: she’s in Winniepeg to work and that should be her priority number 1. That’s my opinion. Deal with it!)

  • Anna

    Kristen is bad/not very good nor convincing when it comes to accents. Fact. Proven in reality through her previous work. Go complain to her, not me.

    She wasn’t noticed as much as Lily (but then again, Lily stole that movie so it was expected) — at first. You’ll find many reviews praising her performance later on (much more than Kristen’s, in fact, but that too was expected as Laura was lead in her story). So . . . sorry, but you’ll have to try again.

  • Anna

    Thank you, captain obvious!
    As usual, my point went right over your head.

  • Anna

    Again, if I’m so freakin’ baseless in my opinions why oh why can’t you simply let them go? You refuse to think about that fact. What are you afraid of?

  • Anna

    Here’s one strange concept for you to think about: time. And one more: things change in/with time. More than a year will pass since the time they signed her for the job when that campaign finally comes out. A full year. Think about it.
    (And ffs, just go back and take a closer look at that launch party they had.)

    P.S. I should just copy/paste my previous post/reply to you but . . . nah. You are unable to get it so why waste my time.

  • nonA

    yep, have them make the damn film & have a good experience doing it. distribution deal after that. anything else down the road is gravy.

  • gillian kemp

    I see the wife has gone private, a smart move. She seemed disappointed, but in the next tweet wants to meet Kristen. I take it that her husband will be providing food, for the movie. So perhaps the unprofessional behavior was on both sides. The wife believes her husband was slighted, but she should not have published it.

  • Anna

    Yeah, I think she was just posting what her husband told her (he probably got it from Laura or director) and then she realized she shared too much (he will be working with the cast and crew during entire JT filming so this kind of info leaking might get him in trouble).
    The reason she was mad is because they had a trip (or something like that) for two planned right after the class and he was running late because cast members didn’t show up on time (Kristen skipping it completely).

  • gillian kemp

    Either Kristen and the rest of the cast were all unprofessional… the rest of the cast were late (because they were waiting on Kristen), the rest of the cast were late for a variety of reasons or there was some mix up. Even if they were waiting on Kristen, why wouldn’t the others just go on without her? Why would the rest be three hours late? And Kristen crashed the wedding, at the chef’s restaurant. She didn’t patronize his business. Plus the chef’s wife still seems eager to meet Kristen.

  • csm123

    There is no evidence that work isn’t her #1 priority. This wasn’t work. Outside of work, her relationship with Stella seems to be her priority over showing up at a fun event.

  • Anna

    Yeah, that whole cooking class thing was a mess. Who knows why they all were late.
    Crashing a wedding is one thing (quite funny, LOL) but getting too much to drink when you know you are gonna be hangover tomorrow while having scheduled obligation with your colleagues is wrong in my “be a professional” book.
    Well yeah, who wouldn’t want to meet a Hollywood star? Even when said star just messed up your own plans.

  • Anna

    Um, this was supposed to be some kind of bonding time with director and her co-stars (Jim just got there), not just anybody, so yes, it’s work. And it was scheduled so it’s not like she was said about it in the last minute.

  • csm123

    No, the chef invited the cast/crew to teach them how to make pizza and risotto. This wasn’t work. You can have your opinions but you can’t have your own facts.

  • gillian kemp

    We “know” Kristen was hungover, because the angry wife told us. We don’t know, and perhaps the wife is assuming it was because of a hangover. Rude and unprofessional behavior from the wife. Behavior that could hurt the husband’s career. It seems like everyone was unprofessional. And the fact that the other cast members were late and Kristen was at the chef’s restaurant, the night before, makes me wonder.

  • gillian kemp

    I wonder if the cast misunderstood the arrangement. Just because it was scheduled, doesn’t mean the invited guests received the correct information.

  • Anna

    It was an obligation she said yes to. Plans were made. Grown ups should be able to respect that. Period. What’s more important: getting drunk or meeting with your colleagues as you promised?

  • OG Guest

    I don’t have to try anything, dear. You’re the one desperate to make it out like now even her acting is bad. And I’m literally laughing at you thinking Laura got better reviews than Kristen. Talk about revisionist history.

    And I seem to recall Kristen doing a southern accent for Billy Lynn and it was good. Fact.

  • OG Guest

    Your point is meaningless and inapplicable here. The movie is JT, written by Savannah Knoop. Kristen is playing both characters. She is the lead.

  • csm123

    People make plans and sometime life intervenes and they can’t keep them. It looked like Kristen was late (because she slept late ??) and then she had to go drop Stella off to the airport. It happens.

  • OG Guest

    This can only possibly be Kristen’s fault, no one else’s, despite the woman saying Laura and co. were late.

  • Anna

    Girls were definitely at least tipsy if not completely drunk (they — Stella, Suzie, that other girl — were posting videos on instagram from the party and it was obvious) so the wife was telling the truth. Just like she didn’t lie about anything else (the class and all that). It’s just that she shouldn’t have shared that info with public (it was probably only for her ears as an explanation why her husband was running late). That’s how I see it.
    Well, that DJ lady would post about Laura and others being at the wedding if she was there. But she probably wasn’t. IDK why others were late but I doubt it’s because they crashed the wedding.

  • gillian kemp

    We actually only know what the “angry” said. The facts seem to be Kristen didn’t show up and the rest were three hours late. The fact that no one was on time, makes it look like a misunderstanding.

  • gillian kemp

    I wasn’t implying the wife was lying, but unless she was there, when the invitation was given, her knowledge, like our knowledge is second hand. If Kristen accepted the invitation, she should have showed up on time. If the others accepted the invitation, they should have been on time. The more we discuss this, the more it sounds like a misunderstanding.

  • Eme

    This, ladies & gentlemen, is a prime example why Twitter is the worst place to vent your anger. Sharing of info that obviously was for her ears only from her husband who has business with the film jeopardizes his standing with his employers.
    Social media is the worst. My opinion.

  • Anna

    Um. You are pinning it all on wife’s anger when, in fact, she was annoyed, at first, but she recovered quickly and then she even started joking about Laura and and that class. Why would she lie about Kristen and tell the truth about everyone else? She asked her husband what was happening, he answered (because he was told what happened) and then she shared it publicly. Later she realized it was a mistake so she went private.
    People seem to have no problem with accusing that lady of being a liar just so they could get Kristen of the hook for her ~mistake. That’s wrong, IMO.

  • Anna

    That could be the case.
    Still, Kristen wasn’t just late — she didn’t show up at all.

  • Anna

    Being funny isn’t your forte.

  • gillian kemp

    Thank you! The wedding was at the husband restaurant, so Kristen was patronizing his business. Why not focus on that information.

  • Anna

    Her husband told her about it (the class). That’s how she knew. She didn’t have to be there in person when he arranged it. If there was some kind of misunderstanding, neither of them was aware of it so they made plans according to original arrangement.

    Anyway, we are running in circles with this whole convo.
    I’m here to talk about Kristen’s behavior, not Laura’s. And the fact is Kristen stood them up, Laura was late but she showed up.

  • gillian kemp

    You are assuming the wife knows the facts. I wasn’t implying the wife was lying. I wonder if she received the correct information. The fact that no one showed up on time, makes me wonder, how clear was the invite. If I had plans and people were three hours late, I would want a heads up, and I would reschedule. If Kristen was the only one not there on time, I would see your point of view.

  • Anna

    Again, possible misunderstanding might have happened but, if that was the case, it was only re the time of the meeting, not about whether they should or should not show up (they all said yes). They had similar dinner on Monday, too, so there’s obviously some kind of a deal going on.
    Laura being late has nothing to do with Kristen’s hangover and her no show.

  • gillian kemp

    Three hours late is almost as bad as not showing up.Also I saw the tweets as they were going out. The wife was wondering where everyone was, does that mean Dern was running late and was not considerate enough to call? Sounds like misinformation was given, Kristen was busy or hungover, and Dern went, when she found out.

  • Anna

    Thank you!
    Yes, she made a big mistake by sharing that info. But I doubt very much she was lying.

    Subject of social media is . . . complicated. LOL

  • csm123

    Kristen also had to drop off Stella at the airport. If there was misunderstanding about time then it makes sense why Kristen didn’t show up when Laura showed up.

  • gillian kemp

    I have plans myself, and I don’t want people waiting on me. You don’t know and I don’t know what was said. The fact that Dern was three hours late and Kristen didn’t make it at all…. seems like someone didn’t get the message.

  • Anna

    You are getting close to conspiracy theories territory with that.
    That restaurant is probably the only place girls were sure about in for them unknown city so they decided to go out there, that’s all there is to it.

  • Anna

    Again, Kristen didn’t show up because she was drunk the night before. That is our focus here. Everything else is just additional complication.

  • gillian kemp

    Once again has anyone said she was lying???? Just because the wife and husband believed the cast got a clear understanding, doesn’t mean the cast got the invitation and accepted.

  • gillian kemp

    Now I am really leaving. And you said yourself the video only show she was tipsy. Now was Dern hungover, was that why she was so rudely late? Nice talking with you Anna!! Thanks for all the links!

  • Anna

    They freaking showed up at the end. Late but they did. That means they agreed to be there.
    Why they were late? Who the hell knows. But it’s more than obvious they said yes. Or do you really think that guy is unable to understand when he has a deal vs. when he doesn’t.
    Plus, I told you below, they already had cast (minus Jim) dinner on Monday so this is kinda becoming something like a regular thing for them — bonding time.

  • Anna

    Who said Laura was hangover? Why are you adding things no one ever said? Laura was late. That’s all. Reason? No one knows.
    Whatever it was it has nothing to do with Kristen. Kristen is her own person and she made her own decision regardless of what Laura/Jim/director did today.

  • Anna

    This is like talking to a wall.
    I don’t care about Laura. I care about Kristen being a no show.
    Why others were late is their problem.

  • Anna

    No, she didn’t. They have a driver for that. They knew she had a flight scheduled for today so it could have been arranged differently long time ago. As for saying goodbye, you don’t have to go all the way to the airport to do that.
    Plus, are you expecting anyone to believe Kristen was too hangover for a cooking class but she was coherent enough to drive?

  • Anna

    Who said anything about acting, honey. I was talking about her ability to learn new accents. Which isn’t something she’s good at (BLLHW accent was so ~mild it was barely noticeable, just compare it to Joe’s — and he’s British). Acting is so much more than that.
    As for me thinking Laura could potentially steal that movie . . . it’s based on few things, one of them being the type of character Albert was (compared to Savannah) because, once again, Kristen has a less flashy role (between the two). And we know how people react to subtle acting.
    See, it wasn’t that hard. But no, you just have to think of as the devil. As far as I’m concerned, you just make me laugh with how transparent you are (you rarely come here to discuss Kristen only, you are here mostly to discuss *my* opinions of her behavior and her projects). SMH

  • Anna

    Laura is also playing two characters. Version of one of them is also known as JT (see my post below).
    Rooney Mara was clear lead in Carol (in the book *and* in the movie) and yet, we all know what happened.

    It’s strange how all of you are so damn sure what happened with Carol couldn’t possibly happen with JT as well. How do you know?
    I don’t. And *that’s* exactly why I’m keeping all options open.
    (Well, all of that if we are working under assumption that the movie will actually be good enough for Laura and/or Kristen to receive awards attention which is something I can’t see happening.)

    So, you see, arguing it can’t possibly happen, not ever, is *you* making “meaningless and inapplicable” point.

  • Anna

    She didn’t just overslept, she was hangover. Two very different things. And being hangover was a direct consequence of her very own decision to drink too much the night before even though she knew she had somewhere to be tomorrow/today. IMO, that’s irresponsible behavior.

  • #Resist

    If you want to have your comments taken seriously, please activate spell check.

  • Anna

    Not talking to trolls.
    Blocked.

  • csm123

    Kristen gets to decide her priorities not you. The wife said that Kristen went to drop off Stella and Stella posted an airplane emoji. Are you now disputing one part of her account to reinforce another one ?

  • csm123

    Why don’t you go and stan someone more responsible, you over-the-top whiny bitch ? Go away and stay away.

  • Anna

    Huh? What are you talking about????
    What I said is that, IMO, cast gathering was/is more important than dropping off Stella at the airport (because, Kristen is there in Canada to work). They have a driver that could take care of Stella. Kristen didn’t have to be at the airport to say goodbye to her or whatever. It’s not like she’s going away for a year.
    Simple as that.

  • csm123

    Kristen gets to decide what is more important to her – a pizza cookout or spending more time with her girlfriend.

  • Anna

    Oh, name calling. Over an opinion about some actresses’ one decision.
    Ugly ugly mind you have. I pity you, sad person.
    Coming from you, being a bitch sounds like a compliment.

  • csm123

    Not name calling , just an observation. You are over-the-top about everything. You whine about everything and you are a bitch.

  • Anna

    Bonding time with the cast, sad person, not just a pizza cook out.

    Anyway, I was wrong for deciding to give you another chance and unblock you couple of days ago.
    You are now in the same group as those trolls, name calling weak person.

    BLOCKED!

  • csm123

    I never asked for a chance from you. I only post here to make sure that a Kristen hating Twihard like you doesn’t get to post bullshit about Kristen without someone putting things in their proper context.

  • BrendaStar

    You should not call someone names because you disagree with them.

  • Anna
  • Eme

    Thank you, Brenda. I was only on briefly yesterday & saw this thread really late last night & meant to comment this am, but you said all that needed to be said. Thanks again.

  • MCR

    Surprising! But I have to agree.

  • Anna

    Yup! I was surprised as well.
    (Maybe because PS is still fresh in people’s memory? Or it’s that ending?)

  • MCR

    These discussions always seem to go the same way. Someone defends Kristen’s actions at all costs. Anna has the opposite tendency, to see her actions in a negative light. Each side sees its view as the only reasonable one. It never ends well.

  • Anna

    You know, MCR, I honestly have no problem with different opinions. I like reading them. Because that’s keeping me alert.
    You and I often disagree. Eme and I. Gillian and I. CJ and I. And so on. But we don’t end up in convos like these with OG Guest and that cm something person. Why? Because, while disagreeing, I never felt any of you thought my opinions are completely baseless, like I was inventing stuff just for the sake of it. None of you are insulting my intelligence even when we have completely opposite POVs. And I respect that. Sure, sometimes misunderstandings happen but there’s always readiness to resolve them.
    Isn’t it strange how it’s always these two people who are making disagreeing with them quite unpleasant?
    Take nonA, for example. I’m clearly not her favorite poster here, to put it nicely, and we are both very well aware of that fact. And that’s why she’s saying things she wants to say, I’m doing the same and we are peacefully co-existing on this board. Like two civilized grown up people. There’s no reason why those two can’t do the same. But, no — in 90% of cases they come here to discuss *my* opinions instead of discussing Kristen.
    To sum it up: just don’t treat me like I’m an idiot and we won’t have any problems.

  • Eme

    Sorry. Not a fan. If true that she’s involved, hope it is just a cameo.

  • Eme

    More likely it’s because PS is still fresh. I do agree with the results, though.

  • Anna

    It is what it is.

  • BrendaStar

    No problem, Eme. I am grateful she deleted her comments. I

  • Anna
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  • BrendaStar

    I am really getting curious about the JT movie on many levels. Jim Sturgess was supposed to star in The Big Shoe with Kristen back in 2013. He dropped out to work in a film with Gerard Butler because he was tired of making little films that don’t get noticed. I am curious as to how he will turn out now that he is back on this little film with Kristen. Laura Dern is very respected in Hollywood and she signed up for this film. With the exception of Jim, the cast looks far more promising than I could have imagined. I think buyers will give it a look. I see ominous signs everywhere. For example when I looked up Winnipeg there was a marketplace mentioned named Forks. I think Forks was the setting for Twilight. LOL. I expect something significant from this film.

  • BrendaStar

    I enjoyed that promotion.

  • Anna
  • Anna

    Fall film festival (and awards) season 2017 is officially on.

    Here’s the first group of movies announced for TIFF.

    https://twitter.com/Graham_Fuller/status/889628953400537092

  • Anna

    If you go through all those films, you’ll notice many of them have female characters as leads or co-leads (one of them Lady Bird, written and directed by Greta Gerwing and starring Saoirse R., will open the festival) so this year’s Best Actress race (for critics’ *and* mainstream awards) is going to be super crowded (plus, most of them are already Oscar nominated/winning ladies which just goes to show that *those* actresses are the ones who are getting the best parts in good movies).

  • Anna

    When it comes to Kristen’s age group, all of her ‘competition’ will be there (from already mentioned Saoirse to JLaw, Brie, Vikander, Emma S., Margot R., ect.). in what, at least on paper, look like very strong projects.

  • MCR

    Timing is everything. But it was still a great performance, can’t take that away. I’m willing to bet it was better than whatever ends up winning the BA Oscar. And I’m sure you agree, more good roles for women is still great news, even if it means more competition.

  • MCR

    Also Certain Women, #23.
    Three out of the best 25 of 17 years’ worth of movies, according to a well established movie writer, is not bad at all!

  • MCR

    I find it very hard to estimate. Smallish movie, by a minor director, filmed in Winnipeg; yet, as you say, it seems to be attracting a good cast. The story itself is so odd, the movie could become surprisingly popular, at least at the ‘cult movie’ level, or else be a crashing failure – equally likely, as far as I can tell. (Apart from the separate question of whether it will be good or awful, which is also hard to predict.) I’m very curious about how it will go.

  • MCR

    So, not nearly as inappropriate or awkward as the initial descriptions made it sound.

  • MCR

    I’m not a fan either; but at least she’s a competent actress, and won’t mess up the production.

  • Eme

    Yup. They were asked, so the word *crashing* seems to be a bit of a stretch to me since my sense of *crashing* is a little more intrusive. At any rate, got the story from the couple’s whose wedding it was so I just cannot wait to see how the tabloids skew the story. Not.

  • Eme

    Is she? I’ve never seen anything she has been in. Just don’t like her music.

  • Anna

    Yeah but it still doesn’t feel ~right, you know. One, as a fan, gets tired of so many ‘bad timing’ moments.

  • Anna

    Oh, I missed CW. My bad.
    Thanks, MCR!

  • Eme

    Whoa. That is quite a list. Ugh. Oscar season officially on. Think I’ll go to deserted island until it’s all over. Who wants to bet Meryl S. and Jennifer L. will be nominated? Geez!!!

  • Anna

    I told you everyone went with it and had fun as if nothing out of the ordinary was happening.

  • Anna

    Well, there are two kinds of crashing: accidental (and it can happen to everyone, trust me — all the stories my sister could tell you, LOL), after which you apologize and then either get permission to stay or you leave, or the intrusive one when you show uninvited on purpose (usually includes an agenda).

  • Anna

    As I said to MCR, this year is gonna be messy. In more ways than one.

  • Eme

    There Will Be Blood lands on best film lists all.the.time. I did not enjoy that film. Yes, it is a masterpiece but, ugh!
    On a brighter note – yay!!!! 3 Kristen films on the list. I couldn’t be prouder of her!!

  • BrendaStar

    Thanks, you said it better!

  • Eme

    Can’t wait!!! Uh, yes I can!

  • Eme

    MCR is always spot on with her comments!

  • Anna

    I’m already starting with “take a deep breath” preparations, tbh. LOL

  • BrendaStar

    Exactly, she seldom fails to deliver!

  • Eme

    And neither one seems to fit this situation.
    At any rate, good fun was had by all it seems!

  • Eme

    LOL! Sigh.

  • Anna

    True but I think they are definitely closer to the first option (they asked for permission).
    Yup! A cool, chill and fun wedding.

  • Eme

    Yes, agree.

  • Eme

    Absolutely agree with everything you just said, MCR.

  • Eme

    Yup and yup.

  • Eme

    At first glance, Emma S.’s picture does not interest me (because, believe me, I lived through that moment, and it was a *spectacle*, and I mean that in not a good way at all). *Battle of the Sexes* managed to trivialize, what to me, was/still is an ongoing, and important issue on all levels – equality.

  • Anna

    I share that POV (even though I didn’t live through that moment, LOL).
    It happens all the time: an idea that, at first, looks really promising gets twisted and turned into its antithesis by the media circus.
    (Remember Sundance 2016 and how Kristen said she’s so tired of all the “celebrities talk about feminism” stuff? I have a feeling she felt that way because the media turned it into “lets catch those with the most outrageous/ignorant stance on the subject so we could mock them and get those clicks” s**t show. It was such a trend back then, in 2014/2015, remember?)

  • Anna

    (And yes, I do agree re more roles for actresses and of all ages. That’s the first thing I noticed in that line-up. I just hope this trend continues.)

  • Eme

    Yes, sadly I remember.

  • Anna

    More fall film festival news: NYFF closing film was just announced (Richard Linklater’s Last Flag Flying will open it).
    Another case of bad timing: imagine Kristen being in this one, instead of Juno Temple, and not in CS (*nothing* against CS but this one has Kate freakin’ Winslet and the buzz is good).

    https://twitter.com/THR/status/889910305211404288

  • MCR

    I get that. But most of my favourite actors seem to do even worse, timing-wise and award-wise, so I’m used to it LOL.

  • MCR

    I saw her in the Larry Flint movie. I’m not saying she’s necessarily a brilliant actress; just that she isn’t going to do the movie any real harm – especially if it’s a small part.

  • Anna

    She’ll play herself, I think.

  • Eme

    That would be the best case scenario.

  • Eme

    That’s good to know. Thanks , MCR.