Kristen Stewart made an appearance on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert on March 9, 2017.


Kristen – 03.09.2017 by korita05

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    And now NEW stuff…………………………………………………………………………………

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    About that PP album thing: she *already* DIRECTED a music video, I guess.

    https://twitter.com/StewartQuotes/status/840172679948836865

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    Lizzie, Underwater, JT LeRoy (not dead but not even she knows when will it start).

    https://twitter.com/StewartQuotes/status/840173050280722432

  • Anna

    That one line quote I asked for yesterday? Well we go it, but it’s 3 lines. LOL

    https://twitter.com/StewartQuotes/status/840172160438140928

  • Guest

    Maybe put the link to this board on the old one.

  • Anna

    I did. That’s the first thing I did.

    (Disqus probably ate it. It will show up.)

  • Guest

    Ah.

  • Anna

    Just checked: it showed up.

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    Not thrilled with this campaign, tbh. Oh well.

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    (Pssst. They way she’s describing Underwater, it sounds like Deep Water Horizon that was released last summer. Only with far less promise. JS.)

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    Great illustration, BTW.

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    @bridgetbragerhair
    The DREAMY#KristenStewart tonight for #personalshoppermovie premiere ✨🎨 #bts Makeup and Photo @beau_nelson Styled by @taraswennen @chanel #BridgetBragerHair 🦄

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BRcIVP8l12J/?taken-by=bridgetbragerhair

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    Please tell me Kristen got to meet her, please!

    https://twitter.com/IndieFocus/status/840132924494118916

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    Reuters interview from the premiere.

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    If you are in LA or NYC, you can see it starting today.

    https://twitter.com/jpraup/status/840190707814002689

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    Seriously, what’s up with the legs Olivier? LOL

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    “I loved it,” she said of Lagerfeld’s Chanel show. “I wish I was there. Honestly, the photos that would have come out of me looking at that rocket launch would have been, I would have been laughing hysterically, but in awe at the same time. It was beautiful.”

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    It was a good interview especially for a late night talk show IMO.

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    (I just wish she had *much* better outfit. Don’t kill me, but I *really* don’t like that one.)

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    Tara’s interview with Vogue about PS premiere look.

    https://twitter.com/edwardbarsamian/status/840197710376505344

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    Article about Kristen in printed issue of Entertainment Weekly: The Escape Artist.

    https://twitter.com/joyllove/status/840070094923288577

  • BrendaStar

    Maybe it was a question of convenience and time because she also had the premiere. I thought it was okay, and most people were focused on her hair.

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    IDK.
    How hard would it be to have better top instead of that shirt? Still the same casual comfy style but more put together: pants and top that actually fit her. That outfit she wore most have on when they go grocery shopping.

  • Anna

    Love Jesse’s quote about her.

    Also, that last scan: info about her PP album thing.
    It’s a music video she directed for a song “Downside of Me” by Chvrches.

    Read the whole thing (scans are easily readable).

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    Kate is very sweet. They obviously share some stylists and she often comments on pictures of Kristen.

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    This was a very informative one.

  • Anna

    True.
    But she doesn’t have to comment. And yet she does. That’s telling.

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    Morning Anna, thank you for the new board. It’s much better.
    Is Kate who played Kristen sister in Alice? That was a nice thing to say to Kristen.

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    Mornin’!

    You are welcome 🙂

    Yes, that’s her.

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    New day but some old thing happening: think pieces popping up.

    https://twitter.com/_Rejane_Santos/status/840214544484044805

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    She wrote that amazing piece about Kristen’s acting style/on-screen presence, that also worked as PS review, during Cannes last year for TIME magazine.

    https://twitter.com/szacharek/status/840217875927449600

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    Here’s the full interview on-line now:

    https://twitter.com/Vilkomerson/status/840216754072801281

  • Stephanie

    Keep doing Ann. I don’t mind seeing it. Beautiful pic.

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    And Kristen is on her way back to LA for tonight’s two Q&As.

    https://twitter.com/blackfilm/status/840218521116258304

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    I love her picture – and she’s *street* style rather than *seductive* which is fine with me. Although, she would have killed *seductive* too, js.

  • Eme

    Good morning, everyone!! Just coming on to the new board (checked the old one for things I missed because I left early last night) – yay! Also just saw the Colbert interview (recorded it) and it was fine. The clip was a new one that I hadn’t seen. Honestly, by the time I get to see the film next week, I’ll probably have seen 2/3 of the film! I’ll have to scroll up and down to catch up but thanks to Anna and everyone for the posts yesterday and always. She was so beautiful last night – yes, yes, I know, she’s always that – but even more so last night. I loved her look. The only down point was seeing her afterwards in that boring outfit for her fans and after party.
    Have a good day everyone! Stephanie, if you’re not too excited after the screening and Q&A, let us know everything (crossing my fingers that you actually get to meet her!!).

  • Eme

    Oh, nice. Hmmm, this must have been recorded while they both were in New York? I’m going to have to search for when this airs in my area.

  • Stephanie

    Good morning Eme,
    I agreed. I haven’t seen the movie, but reading so may reviews and spoilers, I felt like I already know the whole story. But it’s Kristen, so I like to go watch anyway. I hope I can take a pic with her tonight and share with all of us here later.

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    This one is actually a good read and offers an explanation of her acting style and how and why it is misunderstood (natch) in concrete terms. I don’t know that the general public and haters will buy it, but I liked that it is a new concept (viewing her acting as a three-tiered performance) and a viable one (at least for me, lol).

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    Me too, Crossing my fingers and on the Hope Train that it happens for you. I still think you and I will be surprised when we watch the film, but yes, I’d go see it for Kristen even if I knew everything about the film.

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    I’m not familiar with this young lady (probably because I don’t watch whatever show she is on!) so don’t know if the pairing in a film would be something to be excited about?

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    And that is probably why there were boos at Cannes. Left the audience unsatisfied and dissatisfied with the end of the film – because we all know we have to have an ending that answers all the questions, right? Can’t wait to see this movie!

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    She’s from that TV show Girls.

  • Eme

    She is really stretching her creative muscles. I’m looking forward to seeing the music video (I still haven’t seen Come Swim).

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    Another good interview.

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    We’ll get that one after Cannes so…soon.

  • Stephanie

    haha, that’s my mood right now.

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    Did you read the LAT one?

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    Hmmm, aren’t they the ones that don’t play nice sometimes?

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    Yup, they are.
    But not even they can resist to her in that pic ;P

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    Our lovely Stephanie will see it today – yay!!

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    That last question was weird. Wonder what he was going for – her face when she walked away!

  • Anna

    Don’t forget about this, guys (or the second option charity if you are against this one).
    It will be hard to cross $10K this year but still……………………….

    https://twitter.com/KSbdayproject/status/840180072355135488

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    Yes, please!

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    I cannot imagine what it is like to live your life like that. Respect, Kristen, respect.

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    Will it be enough to quiet the criticism? Nah, since when has her honest answers ever been taken for the truth. Sad, but true.

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    Just goes to show that we know nothing, people!!

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    She has a lovely shaped head!!

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    The man as, um, flexible legs! I mean, one of his legs is underneath him. This must be the way he sits when he’s relaxed and comfortable. I’m impressed, lol! And only because I don’t know very many men who can sit like that!!

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    I like this picture very much!!

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    I couldn’t make out what he asked, but she looked a little annoyed by the question.

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    Yeah.
    But, at least, we got her even before she went to explain her train of thoughts with more details.

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    LOL A phrenologist’s dream!

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    OT

    Lets take time-out from all these PS related stuff and have a bit of laugh.

    https://twitter.com/Phil_Lewis_/status/840176136235683845

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    No surprise, I disagree with you on this. I thought it was a good choice, minimalist but dapper. (And, of course, I loved the shoes!)

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    LOL!!!

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    Wonderful! 😄

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    Yup!

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    lol. He has new sweater, Eme!

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    What did he ask her?

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    We did because, you know, great minds and all . . .. (bit of sarcasm mode there, people). But people don’t use their critical thinking skills much these days, js.

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    Okay, MCR, you got me!! I actually had to look up the word and shame on me for not knowing it!!

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    I couldn’t hear exactly but something like what did she think about all the attention the film has been getting? And, I think, she knew what he was getting at (reference yesterday’s board about tabloid press’ vile misrepresentation of the film).

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    LOL!!

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    A colorful one at that!! I love blue and it looks good on him. The design – meh. But it isn’t *the* one so I’m good!!

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    Charles (Gillibert, producer) talks about PS.

    https://twitter.com/Deadline/status/840234819971776513

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    *Atomic Blonde* all right!! I like this picture of them.

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    “Sitting with Assayas and Stewart it becomes immediately clear that this is no “artist and his muse” situation. The pair have found in each other a true mutual collaboration, both helping the other express their thoughts, ideas, and feelings more clearly than they could on their own.”

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    Ah yes, I read that and immediately thought, “Uh, oh, so no more talking *director and his muse* for me!”

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    I miss it already LOL.

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    No, he clearly has a lot of respect for her as an artist in her own right.

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    Love how they played with the shadow in that one and what it can mean.

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    I just think we are coming from two different places when it comes to the occasion she was dressing herself for.

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    just want to say I apologize if i offended to someone here that I makes fun on his choice of clothing. I respect Olivier and his love for Kristen. I realized there are many other people read this board so I will have a better choice of words next time.

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    (Girl locked her account, that’s why you can’t see her tweets anymore.)

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    Girl, we made sport out of making fun of that one particular sweater. It’s just having a bit of fun and everyone is aware of it. You aren’t disrespecting anyone.

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    Aww…my dear Anna. 🙂

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    It’s clear to me that the mockery is good natured. We all like and respect Assayas, and love his horrible nerdy knitwear for his sake LOL.

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    Oh! This art concept is really good: colors of French flag, two faces of Maureen.

    https://twitter.com/IconFilm/status/840253257972895744

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    I see, thanks. Yeah, that was probably his point.

  • Anna

    Exactly. And it’s even funnier when you know his mother’s job was in fashion industry. LOL

  • Eme

    They really are in tune with each other and *get* each other. It’s almost like they are twins (ha!) or two sides of the same coin. I’m so glad they found each other and have done art together!

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    And this ability to make even the most fantastical story come to life is why Assayas feels that he and Stewart aren’t done collaborating yet.

    “I have to come up with something, but I would love to. It’s a good partnership and sometimes with actors, even if you have a great relationship, you know that at some point you’ve exhausted it or you know that you don’t want to make that one film too much, but with Kristen, I know there is much more to her,” he said.

    http://pagesix.com/2017/03/10/olivier-assayas-wrote-personal-shopper-for-kristen-stewart/

  • Eme

    And, that’s probably why she had that expression walking away from him.

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    Again, I’d love to see Kristen work with his wife at least once. Her movies are also great, but so different from his, it would be interesting to see what she’d do with Kristen. They could share insights and pass her back and forth LOL.

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    I think they shouldn’t force anything. When the right idea comes to him, he’ll know it and they’ll then have their 3rd collaboration.

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    Stephanie. where did that come from?! As Anna said, our comments are just “a bit of fun” and “good natured” like MCR said. And, you know I love Olivier but I still make fun of his nerdy, God awful looking taste in sweaters. No worries at all. And, I’m gonna put a hex on anyone messing with my Stephanie, js.

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    Doesn’t sound like he is, which is why he’s been vague about it. He says he know they will once it’s the right project.

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    That would be great.

  • Stephanie

    haha, i guess i am too concern something that shouldn’t be. I feel so protected here by you, Anna, and MCR…so I’m good. Thank you for the love, Eme!

  • Eme

    LOL, MCR. I’m all for Kristen working with his wife but let’s keep the collaborations separate – wouldn’t want Kristen in the middle of a potential competitive game between directors who happen to be husband and wife. That could get sticky in the home life. Sorry, just my imagination running wild, I think.

  • Anna

    I only said it because, by his own admission, they rushed things a bit with PS.

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    (Psst. Are we 100% sure they are still husband and wife?)

  • Eme

    Hmmm. The answer for me is no. But, if not, then I have nothing to worry about because, for sure, they won’t be sharing anything LOL!!!

  • Eme

    Reread it again. It is an amazing piece of writing (and I love to read a well thought out, beautifully written piece) and that last line gets me every. single. time.!

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    It certainly evokes the duality of Maureen – in between day and night, light and shadow.

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    I really do like how the photographer references PS with the play of light and shadow in these pictures.

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    Keep going my little film that could!!

  • Eme

    Yes, he absolutely does. And I never really believed the “artist and his muse” thing for anyone. So, in that sense, I’ll stop saying it for humor about Kristen and Olivier because others might not get my sorry attempt to be witty.

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    Olivier: “The real-life Kristen is simple, straightforward, funny, smart. I’ve never been interested in her movie-star dimension,” he says.

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    Yay!

  • Eme

    LOL!

  • Eme

    True. That pic has *bad ass go ahead try and mess with me* all over it!

  • Eme

    Yes, I made some comments below. And, the LAT one was an even better interview and she said some very honest and meaningful things in it.

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    “You’re in America now, dude,” Stewart jokes. “We’ve got to sell the s— out of this movie.”

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    “Maybe for the next one I could play a famous actress,” jokes Stewart. “Try to normalize that!”

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    @agofoto
    Great fashion last night #kstew #kristenstewart #nicepockets #personalshopper #premiere #filmpremiere @APEntertainment (Photo: @agofoto)

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BReB7FbAbI0/

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    Kristen Stewart attracts a lot of fans and paparazzi members. That wasn’t a problem when you made “Clouds of Sils Maria,” because you were in remote Switzerland. But in “Personal Shopper” you’re on the streets of Paris or in train stations. How did you handle shooting with those crowds around?

    When we were shooting on the streets, we ended up having a lot of fan photos on the Internet of Kristen on her bike. The paparazzi and fans, somehow they have their ways of knowing where she is. I don’t know how they do it, but they have their ways. I try not to think about it. But at some point it becomes annoying, because it’s in the way of Kristen’s concentration. All of a sudden she’s worried by this and that.

    But in terms of shooting at the stations, it wasn’t a problem. People just don’t imagine she would get on a train or be there. We would hide the camera and just put her in the crowd. We would have her wait for a train and she would go into the crowd and walk around on her own while we filmed her. It was kind of fun. And ultimately the difficulty we had was the kind of difficulty we would have with any similar shot in any similar film, even if we were making a film with an unknown.

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    If true, this won’t make Kristen happy as she wanted to work with him (but Riley got in, instead).

    https://twitter.com/IndieWire/status/840264743134855168

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    Yeah, good ol’ Lars – don’t put too much in it, he’s a bit of a drama-queen and it wouldn’t be the first time he “retire” – he’s done it before. 🙂

    – and she should be careful what she wish for. He can be a real jerk on set.

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    Another *must* read.

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    In this interview, it’s clear to me that she chooses films for what they offer her in terms of challenges. She’s also clear that studio films help make the “smaller films” and she’ll make them only if she connects with the material in some way. And it’s all about the experience not the result. So, there must be something about Underwater that is calling her.

  • Eme

    She always gets a pic with Kristen!!!!

  • Anna

    Yeah, she finally gets to be on the ocean floor. LOL

  • Eme

    OMG!!!! The f**king water connection again!! That was a good one, Anne.

  • Anna

    Yup!
    That other girl, too.
    There is that one group if NYC fans who always go to see her whenever she has an appearance(s) in the city.

  • Eme

    Oh, that’s right. This was in NY!! God, I keep mixing up the LA & NYC appearances!

  • Anna

    I think this is that (sunny) LA hotel terrace that many interviews are mentioning.

    https://twitter.com/extratv/status/840317393238810624

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    OMG! Poor Olivier is right there with her and looks like he wants to jump in and add to the *discussion*, and maybe he does but they kept editing and so he never gets to speak, at least in this segment. Those editing bastards, lol!!

  • Eme

    Uh, something happened that I don’t know about?

  • Anna

    Noting huge that I know of.
    But *his* cabinet is source of embarrassment every hour of every day so the news have hard time keeping up with that.

  • MCR

    Aw, I get your wit just fine! 😸

  • Eme

    Those two quotes that you posted were just classic Kristenese, dude! Love it!

  • MCR

    So true. LOL I see his face appear on the news and think, “What fresh hell is this?”

  • Eme

    Aw, thank you, MCR. That means a lot to me!

  • MCR

    Interesting comment, about how what you read, do, or think doesn’t quite exist until you’ve shared it online. It’s something that only applies to her generation, I think.

  • MCR

    Nice one. Interesting interpretation of why Maureen tries on these designer dresses. I hadn’t thought of it that way at all.

  • Eme

    Was she getting harassed or flooded with comments?

  • Anna

    Not that I know of.
    Maybe all the RTs she was getting were bothering her.

  • MCR

    Exactly my thoughts. Fans may sometimes be disappointed with her projects, or their lack of obvious success, but Kristen likely isn’t. She has always seemed very clear about why she chooses certain films. She says here that the method hasn’t (or has very rarely) let her down.

    She must find something worthwhile or challenging about Underwater, whether it’s the director or something in the script. (I’ve liked almost all her choices so far, so I’m willing to assume the best about this one.)

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    So I’ve heard. I’m ambivalent about them working together.

  • Eme

    Comfy is always good. The look was boring to me. Her Today outfit looked comfy and casual but somehow looked more together than this outfit. I’m just so used to her fashion surprises that this one just fell flat. It doesn’t matter in total scheme of things. The interview went fine and she got to promote PS so it’s all good.

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    Me too.

  • Eme

    It defies logic! We are living in hell.

  • Eme

    No truer words.

  • Eme

    Yes, it certainly isn’t true for me. Particularly because I don’t share the same kind of view about social media that the younger generation does.

  • Alfred Birchall

    That is very true for the younger generation It makes me glad I didn’t ever have that “Need ” to share my every day with anyone else when I was that age(too busy with actual reality I think ) lol It shows that she really is of her time in the here and now ! Sue B

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    @charlegillibert
    PERSONAL SHOPPER comes out today!

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BReWGOnF02d/

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    Well, this is a bit…odd. But, new film festival for BLLHW.

    https://twitter.com/VIFFest/status/840351641475907584

  • Stephanie

    Friday traffic is hectic so I am leaving early to the theater now. That area is nice, there are restaurants, coffee shops, shopping mall. So I can take a walk if I get there early.

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    Smart call.

    Have fun !!!

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    It’s even worse when you realize he’s just the consequence, not the cause. Kwim?

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    Yes! Keep going Personal Shopper!!

  • Eme

    So excited for you, Stephanie!! Enjoy, stay safe!!

  • Eme

    Don’t I know too well. And, won’t get better any time soon.

  • Eme

    Well, glad it’s getting some kind of love somewhere, I guess. It is a bit odd timing, though. Sort of kinda 3 steps behind the times?

  • Anna

    Exactly.
    But, as long as people get to see it on the big screen………………………………….

  • Eme

    I revisited this again, MCR, and I don’t think he asked her about the film – I think he asked her about statements she had made on TV but I can’t understand exactly what the statements were so I’m probably wrong with my first guess. Whatever it was, she was clearly annoyed and didn’t want to say anything else.

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    Yes, absolutely.

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    Why he’s saving all his cool clothes for Q&A only? LOL

    https://twitter.com/FranceAmerique/status/840388592082046976

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    Sigh. No sweater. Blazer and the scarf.

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    lots of interesting interviews & quotes about PS & Olivier. moving among the interviewers like a boss. Underwater-playing like a stage play, that sounds more like her style than just a big disaster movie. post-snl monologue – fluidity was never out of the mix. and she discovered she has the pin-head she thought she had!

    there seems to be more going on with this promo than in the past for her IFC movies.

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  • BrendaStar

    Good timing for PS to move up in time for its release here.

  • Stephanie

    What? I saw so many posts/tweets below, already!!! That was basically covered most of Q&A.
    It lasts approximately 20 minutes. There is no meet and greet. When the movie ended, the moderator comes out and introducing her. Audience give her a loud applause. She is so cute, petite frame. She talks so fast and she kept rubbing her head. That’s so cute and adorable. HBG, Ruth, and surprisingly her agent were there too. About the movie, I don’t want to give away or spoilers as some of us here has not yet see the movie. I think I can brief without sharing the details. Remember the nude scene that Anna mentioned about DM article, Kristen was seen by a doctor … those texts keep coming would give you a surprise, she looks gorgeous when she tried the shining dress on and the black dress turned herself into a different person,there are some dark scenes, movements, sound that was scared the heck out of me. The ending is the best when she questions herself. I really love Kristen in this role, she is seen the entire movie, she is really good guys. I hope you can make to the theater. It’s worth it.

  • Anna

    I’m glad you made it! And that you saw her in person! And that you saw the movie!
    How close you were to Kristen? Could you see her well?

    Surprised Ruth was there but she is her publicist, after all, so OK. Ken being there makes zero sense to me, though (that guy acts like a leech: whenever she’s receiving a lot of positive professional attention he’s by her side like he’s making sure no other agent/agency approaches her; yes, I know, it’s silly way of thinking but ever since that mess with the CoSM script, he’s on my s**t list).

    I’m glad you liked the movie.

  • Eme

    So glad you got to see her in person. Can’t wait to see the film!! Thanks for letting us know how it went. And is HBG as gorgeous in the flesh as he is in pics?

  • Stephanie

    lol. Yes he sure is. 🙂

  • Anna

    2nd Q&A (that lady reminded me, just for a sec, of Juliette).

    https://twitter.com/Korita05/status/840463916429787136

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    Oh you lucky young lady, you!! And were you able to sneak a pic of Kristen?

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    I was 10 rows far from stage. So can’t see her well also the lighting was so dim, but I brought myself a binocular. She is cute and so so petite.

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    That’s OK. At least you got to see and hear her.

    What was people’s reaction to the movie?

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    Everyone is so quiet at the beginning because how the movie started in a creepy way. Then there was screaming but not loud. …I truly love it

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    I could have had front row because it a reserved seating but I can’t watch movie that close so I picked middle.

  • Anna

    How really scary are those scary scenes? Like, do you still feel their effect?

  • Eme

    In some of the pics below, it looks like she has a shaved line on her left side of her hair. Did you see that or was it just the lighting?

  • Anna

    Yeah, it’s odd being that close to the screen.

  • Stephanie

    Yes it is. I thought it was like that the first day.

  • Anna

    Are you talking about that white-ish line? I think that’s just the shadow. Or better said, her hair is shiny now.
    At least I think that’s what it is.

  • Stephanie

    For me it was. When you see the movie, make sure you pay attention to the shadow.

  • Eme

    Yeah, I didn’t see it last night in NY pics but she can change her hair in a NY minute so you never know!

  • Anna

    Yeah. Now that I’m paying more attention, it does look like a shaved line.
    Wanna bet she’s gonna get a tattoo on that side of her head? Also, I think her character in JT LeRoy had an undercut on that side.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6ntVL8U4AIAYX1.jpg

  • Anna

    Uh oh. I’m such a chicken when it comes to scary stuff in movies. LOL

  • Eme

    Sigh.

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    Ok this picture is clear so she shaved it.

  • Anna

    OK, girls, look at this one now: it doesn’t look shaved to me.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6nTDHBV4AIIflC.jpg

  • Eme

    Yeah, and I agree with Anna that she’ll probably put a tattoo on that side. I will never understand inflicting that kind of pain voluntarily (and on the head no less), but it’s no big deal for many so – it is what it is.
    So with that, thank you Stephanie for answering all the questions about your big night. Goodnight to you & Anna.

  • Anna

    P.S. Gregory stole Kristen’s jacket. LOL

  • Stephanie

    huh weird it’s different looking from one theater to the next.

  • Anna

    Before you go just take 1 sec to check that pic below (open it and zoom in a bit). Please?

  • Stephanie

    Good night Eme.

  • Eme

    Oh, maybe it’s a part so it’s styled that way?

  • Anna

    Right? When I zoom in a bit, I see hair.

    Anyway, we know she’ll shave it all sooner or later (in couple of months, probably) so we better get ready.

  • Stephanie

    Omg what is it?tattoo?

  • Anna

    Yeah. IDK. I def looks like she still has hair there.

  • Anna

    Where? We are talking about her hair now.

  • Stephanie

    Good night Anna.

  • Anna

    Sweet dreams, Stephanie!

  • Stephanie

    Scratch that my dear.

  • Anna

    Done!

  • Eme

    Yes, when I zoomed in it looked like she had hair. Well, that makes me feel a little better. We’ll probably know in a day or two.

  • Eme

    Good night, Stephanie.

  • Anna

    This one confirms it: hair.
    (P.S. she might get those lines from sleeping when it starts growing, just a tiny bit. LOL)

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6nRlw2V4AAVCr0.jpg

  • Anna

    This one, too (the best one yet).

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6nP7xvU4AAJTsF.jpg

  • Eme

    Yeah, it’s the lighting. Thanks for the CSI skills! Now it really is goodnight, Anna. Talk to you in the morrow.

  • Eme

    Yup. Confirmation.

  • Anna

    Nighty night! 🙂

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  • Toooten

    I’m so with you on that one – Ruth was not only useless back in 2012, she actually made things worse, with her panic press statements, and I too have a hard time forgiving Ken that he almost blew Kristen’s chances to work with Olivier Assayas. Kristen should really consider changing publicist and agent-bureau.

  • Toooten

    Really nice – I would soo have liked to be there!

  • Guest

    I don’t think this in any way relates to JT Leroy. She just said she “hopes” it goes and it sounded like she doesn’t know when. I realize JT might’ve had that, but it’s not why she did this. It’s for Underwater.

  • Anna

    Yeah. Which only means I’ll keep ranting about all of them whenever and every time I get a chance. Bunch of inept people, that team of hers!

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  • nonA

    wonderful to hear about your experience! thanks for posting, & glad you enjoyed the film.

  • Anna

    @chanelofficial
    Kristen Stewart wearing #ParisCosmopolite #ChanelMetiersdart at the Personal Shopper Premiere

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BRf_cDVAGaG/

  • Stephanie

    You are welcome.

  • nonA

    hi, what are your thoughts now on Underwater? she seemed to dismiss Colbert’s mention about it being an ‘underwater Armageddon’, then she said it was like a stage play in an interview….which makes it more interesting (to me, anyway).

  • Stephanie

    Yes, it was a wonderful experience for me.

  • Anna
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    New pics.

    From yesterday. Kristen leaving her hotel in NYC on her way to the airport.

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  • nonA

    catching up on lots of good reviews. i think this is an accurate assessment from the THR review that was posted earlier:

    “Stewart may not have an Oscar yet, but like De Niro, she’s a classic
    American actor who seems, more than ever, to be in competition only with
    herself.”

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/kristen-stewart-a-great-actress-at-last-critics-notebook-985253

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    I know that. I said the same when I posted that interview. But it’s not dead dead as she still has it on her mind (if it was a definitive no go she would know).
    Also, where did I say this was for JT LeRoy?! Are you operating under presumption that I don’t read/watch her interviews or that I can’t/don’t understand why she’s saying? SMH
    I mentioned JT project only because, *if* it happens, she *will* have to completely shave that side of her head (and in context of our discussion about that possible shaved line – which turned out to be a false alarm – it meant that she might have started with that a bit early).

  • nonA

    cute, about looking in the mirror the ‘morning after’

    https://twitter.com/extratv/status/840279272241561600

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    So……….

    Now that PS promo is over (Olivier has couple of Q&A today in NYC and then 2 in London, on the 14th and 15th, but it’s over), we’ll have to wait for Cannes (if Come Swim goes there) to see her promoting her work (if she gets days off from filming) and whenever Lizzie premieres (we aren’t even 100% sure it will be this year as they may wait for the next year’s Sundance).

    Also, what do you think when she will go to NOLA? This weekend or she’ll wait till next week? If that filming is indeed to start on the 20th.

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    Morning Anna,
    I think she will wait. Enjoying her time off before back to work. Well deserve. IMO 🙂

  • Anna

    Mornin’!

    Quite possible. Or she’ll jump into pre-prod work and all that right away. We’ll see soon enough.

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  • MCR

    I must admit, I have a hard time with this. I’m sure it’s a good gig, and I don’t blame Kristen for being involved in the ad campaign; but that purse costs $4,500 (Can), which is just indecent.

  • Anna

    That one is cheap (the most expensive one from that line costs $33K which is nothing compared to some $250K bags from other brands, for example).
    Welcome to the world where ~800 million people are starving while 8 people own 50% of world wealth.

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    Went to 29K tickets sold up until this last Tuesday (per French distributor).

    https://twitter.com/LFRFilms/status/840623679914532864

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    Fan pic from PS premiere night.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6qHar0V4AACCsa.jpg

  • Eme

    She really did them proud that night with this stunner of a look!

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    I love this picture!

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    How wonderful for Kelly, CW and the cast!! So proud of all the love this film is receiving even now!!

  • Eme

    I think she’ll take a few days to decompress from the PS promo and do some pre-prod work (I think she’s already been doing some of that already – just have a feeling) next week and then go to NOLA next weekend. That’s my guess for all its worth, lol!

  • Eme

    Well, I think that’s pretty good for a film like CW (was this for just a week out, I wonder).

  • Eme

    Ken is there to make sure his *prize client* doesn’t get influenced by other agents/agency that might be there and to bask in the positive reception that his client and the film is getting, even though we all know he didn’t do anything to get her this role. JS.

  • Eme

    Oh, hey, I didn’t even notice her shoes! I think she wore the same ones during the first press day of Equals in Japan (or whatever it was that was held in Japan for Equals). I really, really like them.

  • Anna

    Nope, not the same.

  • Eme

    Oh, okay, Ms. Smarty Pants. They were the same color, I think (go ahead, tell me I’m wrong, lol, because I probably am)!

  • Anna

    No, you are not. Those from Tokyo did have that color on them.

  • Eme

    Thank you! Well, I had that right, at least!! Hello, Anna!

  • Anna

    Hello to you, too!
    We were both wrong, though: her top was in the same color, shoes not really. LOL

    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/08/02/article-0-203218BC00000578-444_634x981.jpg

  • Eme

    Ahhh, well, I like these shoes, also!! And there’s the burgundy that I was remembering (mis-remembering, more like!)! I really am for her wearing these shoes for comfort and a bit of edge to her casual looks during promo!

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    Me, too!! I’m kinda obsessed with oxford looking shoes right now and just have not found a pair that I like or would buy – except for the ones that Kristen has worn. Every single one of them I have loved!

  • Anna

    Me, too! Just bought a pair few days ago.
    These are very similar but not the same.

    http://www.hawtcelebs.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/kristen-stewart-new-york-film-festival-portraits_7.jpg

  • Eme

    Those are cool too. See, I love all of her shoes but I just haven’t found any that call to me like the ones she wears. And, honestly, hers are couture labels and I just cannot justify spending that much on shoes or any other type of clothing.

  • Anna

    Same. No way I would spend that much money on shoes. Nope!
    The ones I bought are like that, simple black leather but much much much cheaper, of course. LOL

  • Eme

    You know, that’s why I love seeing Kristen in different outfits during RC, promo, press junkets, interviews, shoots, etc. Because I get to experience fashion through her and imagine how I would change the outfits if I were to wear them – I live fashion vicariously through her (but that’s all I live vicariously through her, iykwim!! lol!!! – before someone accuses me of being one of those cray cray fans, js).

  • Anna

    No, whole run, I think (2 weeks).

  • Eme

    Still good, I think!

  • Anna

    That’s exactly what I said. Leech! Ugh !!!

  • Anna

    For the movie that is very art house (and foreign), it’s OK.

  • Eme

    Yeah, I know. We are again of the same mind!

  • Anna

    No, I get you. I don’t think many of use would care about Chanel if it wasn’t for her. But here we are. LOL

  • Eme

    True, so true!!

  • Anna

    Oh, I do think she probably did some of pre-prod work in LA. But I was wondering if there are things she needs to practice on location.

  • Eme

    Yeah, like scuba diving? I think so but who knows. We’ll see. Have to go. Attending my dear friend’s Celebration of Life ceremony this afternoon. Don’t know if I’ll be back on later. Have a good day if I don’t talk to you later.

  • Anna

    Have fun !!!

    Bye!

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  • Stephanie

    Who’s the singer? She has a nice soothing voice. Hope we will see the video soon direct by Kristen. I’m having a Kristen withdrawal symptom after watching her movie! Lol

  • Anna

    LOL!

    Nothing is the same after you get to see her in person, right?
    Honestly, have no idea when that PP album will come out.

  • Stephanie

    Yup. Despite what people said about her, she is very funny and shy (like not smiling, pain looking…. )She has a lovely giggle and smile. She made the late night alive last night. I am glad I had that opportunity to see/hear her talking.

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    I’m happy for you!

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    Remember La La Land? Know about that Oscar BP winner announcement mess? Did you saw that LLL producer who took it on himself to declare Moonlight the winner? Well, he just asked this:

    https://twitter.com/jehorowitz/status/840794304494821377

  • Eme

    Whoa!!!!

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    Sigh. *It* never left. It’s like *the* hat – it always is with us! and them! Lol!

  • Eme

    What an experience for you, Stephanie. So glad you got a chance to see her live!

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    First BO *estimates* for this weekend:

    https://twitter.com/Deadline/status/840740810022776832

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    Personal Shopper (IFC), 4 theaters / $28K Fri /PTA: $23,4k/ 3-day: $94K/ Wk 1

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    They are reporting a lower PTA but still OK.

    https://twitter.com/ERCboxoffice/status/840937369809305601

  • Anna

    And now THR has pretty much the same numbers as Deadline:
    “$92,516 from 4 theaters in NYC + LA for a screen average of $23,129.”

    https://twitter.com/THR/status/840938199279104000

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    Forbes agrees with lower estimates: “$81,000 over the weekend for a $20k per-location-average”, same as CoSM ($61k on 3 screens in 2015), and isn’t predicting long legs BO wise for it.

    https://twitter.com/ScottMendelson/status/840940613742792704

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    Estimates (actual numbers tomorrow): $92,516 (PTA: $23,129).

    https://twitter.com/boxofficemojo/status/840948273938550784

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    [Fandom newsletter (if anyone is interested, lol): current GF of Kristen’s famous ex has a new song for next movie of that certain director, starring ScarJo, and in that song, current GF might or might not be throwing shade on Kristen. If you are asking me, without actually listening to the thing, I wouldn’t be surprised if the shading stuff turns out to be true. I wouldn’t be surprised at all.]

  • Anna

    [Well, based on song’s lyrics, it’s more about deep insecurity than shading. Meh.
    And can we go back to that time when songs had more than 10 different words. Sigh.]

  • Alfred Birchall

    Gawd you are brave Anna ! Did you actually listen through all of it .. She did have a “normal” song about 3 yrs ago Called “Walk til your dead ” It was quite catchy JMO But the later stuff is very repetitive and ultimately not something that you could listen to for very long. We had a Kinks greatest CD in the car last week and I still could sing everyone of the tracks just by identifying the intro.Am I sad or what.?

  • Anna

    No !!! Just read the lyrics. LOL
    I’m long over lalala heyheyhey hehehe songs.

  • Stephanie

    huh…who is current GF of Kristen’s famous ex?

  • Alfred Birchall

    Don’t think the typical Skull Island customer would be a PS fan . But if it is truly scary then they are missing a trick !

  • Anna

    Twigs.

  • Stephanie

    Thanks Anna. My thought was completely different who that is.

  • Anna

    Video from Q&A, ArcLight theater.

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    Personal Shopper (IFC Films) NEW [4 Theaters] Weekend $92,516, PTA $23,129

    https://twitter.com/Deadline/status/840965394668052480

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    ha, we have a Kinks greatest hits CD too….always sing along with it, maybe our brains were more absorbent when those songs got so much airplay! have to admit i haven’t given Twigs’ music a chance (too soulless & electronic for me), but i do sometimes feel sorry for the grief she gets from RP’s fans. kristen is above the fray about that & Sanders too, i hope her fans know that & don’t get in a tizzy over the success of the Ghost in the Shell movie.

  • Eme

    Are they sure it is a *new* song? And isn’t it just on a trailer and not on the actual movie soundtrack? And, do I really care? LOL!!!

  • Anna

    Not new (so yeah, much ado about nothing).
    No idea as I haven’t seen any of trailers.
    No you don’t but you are curious. LOL

  • Eme

    I like Scarlett J. and think she’s another underrated and underappreciated actress. Loved her in Lucy. So, although I won’t go see her latest movie (for many reasons other than its director – who I care nothing about and wouldn’t shed a tear if he disappeared from the face of the earth), I wish her well and hope her movie does well. Whether it does or doesn’t, I don’t think any of us on this board will have any *meltdowns*.

  • Anna

    No one in the fandom cares about success of that film. I don’t think many are aware of it.

  • Eme

    But not curious enough to research the answers to the questions I posed (thank you, by the way, for the answers LOL!).

  • Anna

    But you are curious enough to ask them ;P
    (You are welcome.)

  • Eme

    LOL!!!

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    Oh, stop!!! LOL!!!!

  • Toooten

    As a Scarlett Johansson fan as well as a Kristen Stewart fan, I like her to get appreciated for the movie, although I don’t care much for the movie it self.

  • Eme

    Oh, Stephanie!! I love you for not knowing that answer!!!!

  • Anna

    As you wish, milady.

  • Eme

    <3 😉

  • Anna

    Nothing against ScarJo (on the contrary) but that whitewashing thing…not good.

  • Eme

    Exactly.

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    Oh you mean to use a Caucasian actress to play an Asian character? No that’s crazy, but I reckon they used her for her screen appeal, and fame.

  • Anna

    No, I do get why they used her.
    It’s just that I think she would have been fine without it and all the controversy. It’s not like she’s up and coming actress for who that movie was the only chance to break into mainstream. She’s freaking ScarJo! I’m pretty sure she can pick roles she wants to do for any of the big studios. So yeah, if you are asking me, this wasn’t exactly the best move on her part.

  • BrendaStar

    Thanks, I was surprised to learn here that FKA Twigs has a song for Rupert’s film. Is that a coincidence? Anyway good for her.

  • Eme

    Yeah, I agree. I don’t think her career would have suffered if she didn’t do this movie. As it is, she might get some grief for taking it (i.e., Emma Stone playing a Hawaiian in Aloha – I think that was the name of the movie).

  • BrendaStar

    I hope he gets to see PS soon while it is still on his mind. Then maybe he will want Kristen Stewart for one his films. That is awesome that he tweeted about it.

  • Toooten

    I totally agree, but I think ScarJo have a very different approach to her career than Kristen does – She do these big budget movies all the time, and then occasionally those small budget Indies, like ‘Under the Skin’ which literally came out of nowhere, whereas Kristen do it the other way around, a lot of small budget Indies, and then some big(ish) budget movies like the ‘Twilight’ franchise and SWATH.

  • Anna

    She’s getting much more grief than Emma S. ever did (Emma’s team buried that story pretty fast and the movie itself wasn’t based on a beloved Japanese anime).

  • Eme

    That’s true. Although, I think Emma S. got asked about it and I don’t think her answer set well with people (vaguely remember reading something like that but have no idea where I read it – I just remember shaking my head and thinking so what else is new?!

  • Anna

    Agree about that. She’s your typical (mainstream) Hollywood star.
    But it has nothing to do with the fact she picked this particular project. I’m certain she’s being offered studio movies on a daily basis. She could have just passed on this one.

  • Eme

    It would have been smarter if she had, tbh.

  • Eme

    And they show that it’s not getting better – it’s getting worse. And some of the comments are . . . so revealing.

  • Anna

    I know. I remember that. But it was a news for a week or two and then nothing. It wasn’t even used against her in the Oscar race (not that it should have been) when all kind of dirt gets thrown in people’s faces.
    With ScarJo it’s going on and on since she was announced as the lead in GitS which was, what, 2 years ago (maybe even longer).
    No one cares about Aloha (not when it was released and certainly not today) but GitS has millions of fans.

  • Anna

    Yup!

  • Eme

    Well, not that I will care that much, but it will be interesting to see what the BO will be given the controversy surrounding the film. Will the millions of fans go see the movie out of curiosity or will they boycott.

  • Anna

    Yeah.
    But, on the other hand, you can always count on males who like seeing a woman like ScarJo wearing quite ~interesting costume throughout the whole movie.
    So who knows.

  • Eme

    Yeah, fanboys.

  • Anna

    Um. More like just boys. Kwim?

  • Toooten

    Yes, but then again, who says no to an eight digit salary?

  • Anna

    Yeah, reality of life.
    I just hope it won’t cost her more in the long run (I don’t think it will but who knows).

  • Toooten

    From what I’ve seen so far, it’s mostly CGI so they would be very disappointed if that’s their reason to watch the movie – it’s not actually her.

  • Toooten

    I don’t think it will – she have a huge fanbase from the Marvel movies alone. She’ll survive.

  • Eme

    Yup! LOL!!!

  • Eme

    It’s unfortunate that her huge pay day will be figured in the divorce settlement. So, it’ll cost her one way or another.

  • Stephanie

    Lol. How are you my dear?

  • Eme

    Good, thank you. And you are doing well, also?

  • Eme

    And have you come down to earth yet from the high of seeing our lovely Kristen on Friday?

  • Anna

    Not if they have a prenup?

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    Yeah.

  • Stephanie

    Lol. I am half of me and half of her. Some of her cuteness still stuck in my head. 😂

  • Anna

    Yeah. It’s like we are evolving — backwards.

  • Eme

    I don’t know much about it except that Scarlett J. is getting a divorce. All these people with huge incomes should always get a prenup, js.

  • Eme

    That is so wonderful that you got to experience that side of her. I would have loved to have been there, too!! Someday, I hope.

  • Stephanie

    I’m good. Thank you.

  • Anna

    Yeah. I saw the news but I never clicked to read any of those articles. Wish them the best for their child’s sake.

    Definitely! Being in love and all that is fine but reality of life is something else so doing everything you can to prevent future mess is mandatory.

  • Eme

    OMG, so, so true. It’s . . . so disheartening and demoralizing.

  • Anna

    It’s scary as hell, I would say.

  • Eme

    Definitely. Always have Plan A, then Plan B, then Plan C, and if all else fails, have Plan D. And then have a back-up plan for the back-up plan.

  • Anna

    Lock your head and don’t let it out 😉

  • Eme

    Without a doubt.

  • Anna

    Yup!
    You should see me following that rule while packing for vacation ;P

  • Eme

    IKR??!!! ;P

  • Stephanie

    Haha ..yes yes. That would last with me for a long time Anna.

  • Anna

    Well, the trouble is – I get to carry my own suitcase 🙁

  • Toooten

    Don’t you think she has a prenup?

  • Eme

    Yeah, I love to see all these articles about packing light and I’m always like but . . but . . . but. And then, an article came out in one of the travel mags that basically said (written by a woman, incidentally) – hell no, can’t do it, need all the every day stuff to come with her whenever she travels, so no to the packing light ever! I really laughed when I read it. I could so relate!

  • Eme

    It would be very smart if she did. I don’t know the answer.

  • Stephanie

    Totally agreed! Well said, Eme.

  • Anna

    I know!
    I have to have my stuff in case *something* happens. You never know.
    Of course, it never does. Thankfully. But I have a feeling it would have if I didn’t pack *everything*. LOL

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    That always happens. If you don’t have the stuff *in case*, more than likely that’s when you will regret not having it. Happened to me more times than I can count. And I always get so darn mad at myself for not listening to my gut. Always listen to your gut!!

  • Anna

    Exactly!

  • Toooten

    I think she do – it’s not her first trip in the ‘merry-go-round’ after all.

  • Eme

    More than likely. Oh, that’s right. Wasn’t she married to Ryan Gosling? The one that’s married to Blake Lively now, right? (I really don’t keep up with these HW couples. For that matter, can anyone?). Lol.

  • Eme

    Wait. Ryan Reynolds, I think. Good lord I’m bad at this!!!

  • Anna

    Who knows. World is a small place but I’m not sure it’s *that* small.
    Anyway, if that song is just in the trailer and not in the actual movie then it was probably studio’s marketing team decision (not RS’s). But if it turns out it’s in the film . . . weird.

  • Anna

    I think she was married before Ryan R. too. But I’m not sure.

  • Toooten

    Hehe yes it was Ryan Reynolds. :))

  • Eme

    Well, she is quite the looker so . . . .

  • Toooten

    I don’t think so.

  • Anna

    Then I stand corrected.
    As Eme said, it’s hard to keep up (not that I’m really trying).

  • Eme

    None of us are. But when there’s a lull in Kristen land, boredom drives me to do not so sane things, js.

  • Toooten

    Hehe yes it is, and she’s been dating quite a few through out the years.

  • Anna

    I remember some of them. She also had her ~wild phase, I think.
    Anyway, wish her and her little one luck.

  • Anna

    Well, we are allowed to indulge in a bit of gossiping from time to time. It’s not like we are judgmental or anything.

  • BrendaStar

    I agree it’s weird if it is in the actual film.

  • Eme

    Yes, always and foremost what is the best for the little ones should be the most important in these situations.

  • Eme

    Well, I like to think I’m not. I work hard not to be.

  • Anna

    Without a question!

  • Anna

    Same.

  • Eme

    If true, it’s weird and sorta pitiful, imo.

  • Anna

    Not only that. Imagine your current GF being in some kind of contact (even if it’s only through other people) with a guy your ex cheated on you with. Weird is a mild word for that.
    Anyway, who knows.

  • Eme

    Yeah, who knows. It isn’t the way I conduct my life and relationships but that’s me. Let’s leave it at that before we get into deep trouble, iykwim.

  • Anna

    Done.

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  • Eme

    I love, love looking at these pictures. She was so gorgeous that night!

  • BrendaStar

    There is a Kristen Stewart alternate birthday campaign link. I copied it, and I hope that is all that I need to do to keep it a secure link. The goal is $2,000.00. You can help save an animal from cruelty, suffering, neglect, or homelessness. All in honor of Kristen Stewart’s birthday. https://secure.aspca.org/team/ksbdayproject2017b

  • Anna

    Next red carpet: Met Gala (I think).

  • Anna

    I posted about it, too (below the PP charity tweet).

  • Eme

    Hopefully. I don’t know about the filming schedule, though. I’d like her to attend the Chanel show also in May.

  • Anna

    That one will be a close call. We are yet to find out the exact date but, because it will be in Japan…………………… Time difference is big and it will work against her.
    If she misses on that one maybe she can attend PFW in July.

  • BrendaStar

    Thanks, I scrolled through at least 3 times and could not find any of the links here.

  • Anna

    I’m always trying to post about both so people can pick one.

  • BrendaStar

    I agree with that too. LOL.

  • Eme

    Thank you, Brenda.

  • Eme

    Thanks, Anna. I did my part. Let’s do this, people!!!

  • BrendaStar

    I gave up on PS after the Fall film festivals: TIFF and NYFF. PS did okay but not great. Olivier Assayas did not give up and kept on appearing at these film festivals and events. It has really received great reviews from big film critics in NY and LA. I sense some award nominations from those film critic societies in the future.Also, I am more hopeful since Joshua Horowitz tweeted about it that Kristen might get noticed for a new film:-)

  • Eme

    Appreciate your efforts, Anna.

  • Eme

    Yes, I’d like her to attend at least one of them because it’s important for her visibility with Chanel. She showcased that gown so beautifully. Hope the Chanel powers that be appreciated it as much as I did (and others judging from the comments that night on this board).

  • Stephanie

    👍🏻. I already did with PP site. Thanks Eme and Anna.

  • BrendaStar

    She can wear any hair style and hair color! I am sure she made Karl L happy with her Chanel dress. Personally I cannot wait to learn more about Underwater. There has been a lot going on with Kristen and plenty more to come to keep all of us happy.

  • Eme

    Me too!! Yay!!

  • Eme

    I’m such a selfish fan. I want more film projects because I want to be able to see her on the big screen for many years to come!! And, I know we all want that, js.

  • Stephanie

    Yes. Same as Eme. Keep coming Kristen. We love you.

  • Eme

    Personally, I’m on the Hope Train with PS. It’s being received better by critics outside of France and Kristen is getting praise from all, so I’m happy. I’ll be even happier if it gets decent BO but that might be asking too much.

  • BrendaStar

    Yes! Film projects are the best.

  • BrendaStar

    I will have to pay more attention next time. Thanks.

  • BrendaStar

    Keep hoping for good BO for PS. You did a good job hoping for BP for Moonlight.

  • Eme

    IKR!!! What a moment that was!!! So, yeah, Hope Train riding for PS!!

  • MCR

    They tried their best to give it to La La Land, but your hope was too powerful!

  • nonA

    oh i know you wouldn’t do that, being a fair & reasonable person. but some fans elsewhere remember the double standard that director had to deal with the old ‘scandal’ privately, whereas kristen had to deal with it very publicly-for way too long. hopefully it won’t come up during the new movie’s promo & reviews. (i won’t be seeing the film either)

  • MCR

    I would be extremely surprised.

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  • Eme

    That moment was Epic!

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    Sigh.

  • Eme

    For Kristen’s sake, I hope the past doesn’t get dredged up and, if it does, the man stays professional. Never know what people will say or do. And that double standard will continue no matter what Kristen does because haters gonna hate. She’ll carry on just like she did in 2012 until now. She has my total respect.

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    Personal Shopper

    From Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me to Under the Skin, many fine films have been booed at Cannes and later reclaimed for cult-ish appreciation. The second pairing from Kristen Stewart and director Olivier Assayas deserves similar consideration. Following Clouds of Sils Maria, the duo’s hybrid of genre spook-show, celebrity satire and stalker thriller is slippery and borderline silly. But it’s also a hypnotic tease with a haunting grip.

    Detached even at her most exposed, Stewart plays to her warily evasive strengths as Maureen, a PA drifting through France collecting clobber for a fashionista. She’s also a medium whose attempts to connect with her dead brother in a gloomy mansion lead us into House of the Devil terrain. Assayas’ restrained direction lends the chills intensity, sustained beautifully when a stranger texts Maureen and click-starts some suspense-cranked SMS malevolence.

    Shopper binges on self-awareness, high-art nods and diffuse plot swerves, yet there’s tight thematic braiding. A study in grief’s between-states limbo (Maureen does a lot of waiting) gradually takes shape, designed to haunt your head long after Maureen’s suggestive final query to the afterlife. How long? Longer than those boos, at least.

    THE VERDICT: A genre-blender imbued with style and substance. Magnetic and elusive, Stewart matches her director.

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    Spanish reviews were bad at Cannes. I couldn’t read them, but they were mostly rated rotten on RT. I wonder if time and the recent positive reviews from USA will change the reception.

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    “… the film looks fantastic – cinematographer Christopher Blauvelt (The Bling Ring, Indignation) capturing the sweeping vistas of Montana beautifully. The acting is of the highest quality – would we expect anything less – particularly from Reichardt regular Michelle Williams, but it is Kristin Stewart who is the stand-out in the film’s final, and perhaps most engaging chapter.” The article didn’t spell the stand-out’s name correctly? The critic didn’t exactly love the film either. Still Kristen was praised.

  • BrendaStar

    STOP: This article tells you the entire story including the END. I didn’t mind at all, but some folks might!

  • Eme

    One of a few critics that didn’t like the film. The critic gets half a star for praising Kristen while simultaneously misspelling her name. Fail.

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    Yeah, I started to read it but a few sentences in I realized *spoilers*. So, like Brenda says don”t read if you haven’t seen the movie and are going to see it.

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    I’m glad we got one campaign with blond Kristen.

    Also, there’s this thing going on among fans right now: betting on which magazine will get first cover of buzzcut Kristen. People are having fun, for a change.

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    Thanks, for the verifying this. I don’t mind knowing so much about the film because I am truly frightened by scary stories. This knowledge might make it possible for me to watch it now like a normal person:-)

  • Eme

    That’s nice. Glad the fandom is having fun. My guess? Wonderland.

  • Anna

    That’s what set it off (the betting) as Wonderland tweeted about it yesterday asking which star people would like to see on their next cover. It started from there…………………………

  • Eme

    Lol “like a normal person”!!!

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    Ahhh. See, I don’t need Twitter to be in tune with the world – lol!!

  • BrendaStar

    I agree!

  • Eme

    This is my kind of eyeshadow color. I like very much.

  • Anna

    I only wish I was brave enough to wear it that way. LOL

  • Anna

    No, you’re just a clairvoyant ;P

  • Eme

    Yeah, I’m not going to wear it that way. More subtle is my style. Besides, don’t want to scare the two year old grand baby!

  • BrendaStar

    That looks like a great campaign for Kristen, who has such beautiful eyes!

  • Eme

    IKR? That actually kind of scared me when you posted that about Wonderland. I was like – whoaaa!!!

  • Anna

    I would like to see how I would look with make-up done that way, though. Just curious. LOL
    In my experience, kids today aren’t as easily scared. Well, not the little ones I know.

  • Eme

    I agree!! And Chanel is capitalizing on it!! And everyone benefits!!

  • Anna

    Same as me with that old Allure mag pic and then V mag shoot.
    This board is becoming — spooky.

  • Eme

    Well, my little one is pretty fierce but, no, she’d scream, lol!!

  • Anna

    Maybe it’s not the make-up……………………………… ;P

  • Eme

    It’s the PS factor!!!!

  • Eme

    Oh, stop it!!! Okay, I won’t give you the win for the board today because it’s still early, but good one, Anna!! LOL!!

  • Anna

    Lets blame it on Olivier. He wrote it.
    Or maybe it’s his sweater. I mean, that thing just won’t go away. It’s quite suspicious.

  • Eme

    I call it *his ghost*. It’s always with him whether we see it or not! It’s inhabited his being. Ha!

  • Anna

    Right!
    So we need another project for Olivier and Kristen to work together on to get rid of it.

  • Eme

    Nah, let’s play with the spookys for a while! We need Olivier’s next project for Kristen to not be rushed! Third time is the charm so they say!

  • Anna

    Remember this BTS pic from a shoot Mario Testino did last Oct? I think that was this new campaign.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6zo79UVAAE4n-b.jpg

  • Anna

    Sigh. Okay. We’ll play.

  • Eme

    Ahhh, Mario T. Hope so – love it, love her, love him!

  • Eme

    Yay!! Fun times, people!

  • Anna

    He photographed her so many times over the years that they should be friends by now.

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    Hope the final product is better than the teaser
    Because I’m not feeling it right now, js.

  • Eme

    Hope they are!!

  • Anna

    This who campaign feels like…they didn’t know what they were doing but they had to come up with something.

  • Eme

    Yeah, that shot with her coming in the room – straight out of PS opening shot, imo. Weird. Darn It! Want to stay but RL is calling. Bbl.

  • Anna

    Stay safe!

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    This is nice. (Production company behind Still Alice. And Carol. And Wonderstruck due this year.)

    https://twitter.com/KillerFilms/status/841311396050673665

  • MCR

    LOL I don’t generally like horror movies either, but this one is okay. It’s not that kind of horror movie.

  • Alfred Birchall

    She is unequivocally beautiful hair or no hair .And effortlessly cool too. No wonder there has always been so much jealousy ..

  • Anna

    OK, this is odd. Vogue isn’t like this. Not when it comes to Kristen. (Yes, even digs in this poorly written and outdated article – SMH – are mild compared to what they usually post about her.)

    https://twitter.com/voguemagazine/status/841335642592284674

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    If you are in Boston, there’s a free screening of PS tonight.

    https://twitter.com/IFFBoston/status/841333351214661632

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    Don’t forget……………………………..

    https://twitter.com/TipouneKs/status/841345822843371521

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    Or/and this………………………….

    https://twitter.com/KSbdayproject/status/841011106063761408

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    Basically, what they are saying is “we need Kristen Stewart doubles” for the entire shoot. Which is puzzling (I mean, I get a scene here and there but 5 days a week for the whole month is — odd).

    “Casting directors are looking for Caucasian looking women with a pale skin tone with short blonde and/or shaved blonde hair. Filming will take place in Chalmette, Louisiana. Auditions will take place on Thursday, March 16th.”

  • Guest

    It’s not that puzzling. It’s an action film and they don’t let stars do most of their stunts. The doubles might have off certain days but will need to be available for the full shoot.

  • Anna

    Stunts are done by stunt people (trained for that job), not by stand-ins (who aren’t professionals).

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    But…stand-ins can be used instead of actors for scene set-ups (like, when you need to position the camera and light and whatnot before actual filming). Having actors doing that can mess up their concentration and preparation for the scene so sometimes stand-ins are used for that (involves a lot of waiting and standing still and just being there not doing anything particular).
    Who knows.

  • Eme

    So, Kristen is going to meet the ghost of Gabrielle – uh, way to be not so creative, guys, with that idea greatly influenced by (wait for it) PS!!! Js.

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    Opening

    Personal Shopper (IFC) – Metacritic: 77; Festivals include: Cannes, Toronto, New York 2016

    $92,516 in four theaters; PTA (per theater average): $23,129

    French director Olivier Assayas’ second film with Kristen Stewart (“The Clouds of Sils Maria”), this time with her as the lead, opened to among the best results of any new platform release this year. Its initial numbers are better than their last film and around the level of “The Salesman” in January. This mostly English film (which won Assayas the Best Director nod at Cannes last year) benefited from reviews similar to “Sils” and in-person appearances by the director and star in New York and Los Angeles.

    What comes next: IFC moves this into the top 15 markets this weekend.

  • Eme

    Hope Train riding!!!

  • csm123

    Personal Shopper did $79,175 actual. All NYC/LA releases came under projections and I think it has something to do with the bad weather in New York. Anyway that’s a solid opening for PS about on par with Sils Maria ($61,000 from 3) and better than Certain Women ($60,000 from 5). It should make $1.5 million + as long as IFC doesn’t botch up the expansion. $2 million is also possible if it gets some support from indie horror fans.

  • csm123

    New promo picture from tonight’s Charlie Rose show.

    https://twitter.com/CharlieRoseShow/status/841412560545038336

  • Anna

    Your projections are way too hight, IMO.

  • MCR

    Nice conclusion: Personal Shopper is the best film currently in theatres. 👍🏼

    I’d have to give 2nd place to Tomris Laffly’s choice, Todd Haynes/Julianne Moore. Movie magic since 1995.

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    And they have a new one coming out this year.

  • MCR

    I know! Definitely have to see that one.

  • MCR

    Or they can act as decoys for the paparazzi LOL.

  • Eme

    Oh, I like that one, MCR!! LOL!!

  • Eme

    So, they’re playing nice now? Because if this is their nice . . . . And, I just have a basic mistrust with the media when it comes to Kristen, js.

  • Eme

    Gosh, that’s a beautiful shade of blue.

  • Eme

    So, the figures below on Anne Thompson’s article were projections? Too bad. I like her figures better!

  • Eme

    I guess this was taped when they were in NYC last week. She looks great.

  • Eme

    Wish he would work with Kristen.

  • MCR

    Kristen’s collaboration with band Chvrches to promote Planned Parenthood:

    http://faroutmagazine.co.uk/kristen-stewart-reveals-collaboration-with-scottish-band-chvrches/

  • Eme

    I like the song. The lead singer has a really nice voice. Really curious what this video will be like.

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    Yeah, it’s an OK song.
    I wonder when exactly she did it. We’ll find out soon enough, I hope.

  • Anna

    There are connections: Kelly R., Julianne and Killer Films. So it’s not impossible. I hope it happens one day.

  • Anna

    That would be a bonus. LOL

  • Anna

    Yes, that’s being “nice” in their world. SMH
    Same. I always question their intentions and agendas.

  • Anna

    Yup!
    She’s wearing the same thing she had on for Colbert Show so you already know my opinion about that look.

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    I liked the shoes, lol!

  • Eme

    Me too!

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    Yup!

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    New festival for PS: Istanbul Film Festival (April 5-1), Galas category.

    https://twitter.com/ist_filmfest/status/841555133649547266

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    And another new film fest for PS: Hong Kong International Film Festival (April 11-25).
    “French director, Olivier Assayas will bring ‘Personal Shopper’.”

    https://twitter.com/Variety/status/841630761392340992

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    Yup!

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    Like I said, it’s based on a fanfiction.

    Q: You’re doing a movie about the Lizzie Borden case – what was the attraction there? Is it a real horror movie?

    STEWART: I’ve finished that. It’s someone’s interpretation of what could have happened that day and what could have led up to those events based on the very few facts we have surrounding that case. It’s sort of a glimpse into what a young subversive woman’s life might be like in that time with a conservative and very domineering father. So it’s that.

    http://www.bostonherald.com/entertainment/movies/hollywood_mine/2017/03/kristen_stewarts_realness

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    I commend the author for her insight. She’s spot on as far as Kristen’s acting IMO.

  • Guest

    It’s one theory but it’s not a new one. Every interpretation of the story is all theory.

  • Anna

    Yup.
    IMO, 90% of actresses (and actors, of course) will do most if not all the thinking for you and giving it through their easily “readable” performance. Kristen does the opposite: she will not reach out to you and just serve you the knowledge, she will only invite you to join her and discover things on your own. It’s up to audience if they can trust her enough to want to follow her while she’s leading them through the story. Which means that people need to be ready to think. Sadly, for majority of them movies are something that exist so they could stop thinking for couple of hours.

    “Kristen Stewart does not do this for the simple reason that she is a naturalistic actor. Her voice does not modulate wildly because most real voices to not. Her eyebrows do not flail because most eyebrows do not. Stewart does not take something away from her performances in order to tantalize her viewers. Instead, she intentionally fails to reach the pitch of thespian overcookedness audiences are accustomed to.”

  • Anna

    I disagree. There’s interpreting all available facts (from those court documents) in different ways by slightly changing contexts in which one analyses them and then there’s taking only few very basic facts and re-imagining everything else (which, IMO, is exactly the same as writing a fanfiction and is what they did in this case).

  • BrendaStar

    I think the article makes sense, and Kristen could be called a naturalist as an actress.

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    They are very good

  • MCR

    Not that there aren’t a lot of movies, some very successful, based on some sort of fanfiction or reforming of actual events.

  • BrendaStar

    I hope I get to see the interview.

  • Anna

    Of course.
    But, so far, the way they are talking about that movie is as if they made a real biopic of sorts which then rises certain expectations. If it isn’t that, and it really looks like it isn’t, then people should be aware of it. Maybe they’ll do that when the promo and release time comes.

  • Anna

    They usually post the whole thing on their site and YT.

  • BrendaStar

    Thanks, I will be hoping for the 2million.

  • BrendaStar

    Haha! The pappz will be confused.

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    We agreed we are gonna continue playing this game.
    So, in that tradition I must notice that *it* is alive and well. LOL

    https://twitter.com/IconFilm/status/841722096086593536

  • Eme

    Of course *it* is!! It’s the *ghost sweater* that appears whenever it wants whether we like it or not. It’s taken over his persona. He is no longer in control . . . . !

  • Stephanie

    Lol. Yes to the idea. The man is working so hard for his movie. Thank you mr. OA.

  • Anna

    That is so true: he always promotes his films till the very end. I’m not sure I know any other director that does that as much as Olivier.

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    Lol. 🙂

  • Anna

    Charlie Rose Show full interview.

    https://twitter.com/Mel452/status/841748715211710464

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    Oh! She didn’t get to be in that pup quiz but she did play with these cuties.

    @hairbyadir
    Thought we could all use some puppies on this Tuesday 😍♥️ Thank you @jimmyfallon for letting me and #kristenstewart indulge in some puppy love #puppies #jimmyfallon #love
    https://www.instagram.com/p/BRoqtYdDBA5/

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    This is such a sweet interview.
    “I mean, we are definitely not of the same generation or the same background, but there is something like siblings about how we function.”

    https://twitter.com/EW/status/841786651156316160

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    Anna, thank you for these daily reminders. It’s always good to be reminded of these things because life always gets complicated & busy.

  • Eme

    I get a kick seeing pics of them in their *twin* stripe shirts. It’s like they are so attuned with each other that they even dress sorta alike! But never will she wearing *it*. I would just die!

  • Eme

    Hey guys. So I recorded the Charlie Rose interview & just saw it (busy day today). Anyways, good interview. They clearly have a connection & I loved hearing about Kristen’s instinctual style. I loved Olivier’s comment about Kristen touching the teapot in one scene. His “I loved that”! was really great to see. Looks like there will be a third collaboration in the future for them – but I doubt Kristen will write or direct the film lol!!

  • Eme

    Love him to bits! So happy they met!

  • Eme

    Of course he will.

  • Anna

    I wouldn’t be surprised if she gets him to have a cameo in one scene of her feature debut. Running from birds. LOL

  • Anna

    You are welcome.

    Results are disappointing for now but who knows how everything will end.

  • Eme

    Oh, that’s a great idea. Birds? Like in Hitchcock? Well, Olivier is a fan of his. Lol!

  • Eme

    It’s early days but I’m not surprised.

  • Anna

    When Kristen asked him, during PS filming, what is his biggest fear he said birds scare the s**t out of him.

  • Eme

    Oh, you have a great memory!! Honestly I’ve read so many interviews and articles about PS, Olivier & Kristen in the last 2 weeks that I can’t remember half of what I read! Bet The Birds scared him silly lol!

  • Anna

    IKR?!
    Anyway, I’m kinda a bit sad we are now getting the last of their interviews for (quite) some time. Gonna miss them. Sigh.

  • Eme

    Yeah, me too. 🙁

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    Humm..what does stand-in job do?

  • csm123

    These are not Kristen’s stand-ins.

    Woman: Female, 18+ 5’6” to 5’8,” brown hair. Ethnicity: Caucasian, Asian

    Man #1: Male, 18+ 6’0” to 6’1,” dark blonde/strawberry blonde hair. Ethnicity: Caucasian

    Man #2: Male, 18+ 6’0” to 6’1,” slim build. Ethnicity: African American

  • Anna

    Pretty much just being there instead of certain character in scenes where said character isn’t filmed in the close-up.

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    Thanks Anna. Kind of boring job, but it’s easy way of making money. I wouldn’t mind doing during weekends. 😊

  • Anna

    Yup!

  • BrendaStar

    Thanks, Anna, for providing the link to a complete transcript earlier. I read it so I didn’t have to worry about watching it. Olivier and Kristen are an amazing team. It would be awesome if she gets to film Olivier in a cameo some day.

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    New festival for PS: International Festival of Auteur Films, Barcelona (April 27 – May 7).

    https://twitter.com/DAFilmFestival/status/841985546486452224

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    Thanks, Brenda!

  • Eme

    Thank you, Brenda. Did a quick look at the clothes section and didn’t have one of my favorites – TIFF 2012.

  • Eme

    Hmmm. Interesting. One of them thought she was better in Sils Maria. I’m looking forward to forming my own opinion.

  • Eme

    I like his comment about being the right person at the right time to tell her it was OK to be herself. So many layers of meanings that one can put on that comment.

  • Anna

    I think Juliette played role in that, too. And when you have in mind the timing (she went to Europe to shoot CoSM few months after the breakup when the very last tie she had with Twilight and that whole period of her life finally ended) it becomes even more important and telling.

  • Anna

    Her character in CoSM was definitely more likable and relatable compared to Maureen (and the movie itself is much lighter than PS) so some people can mix up those two on some level (while analyzing the quality of her performance).

  • MCR

    I agree. Poor Maureen was almost more of a condition than a person – hard to relate to and a little painful to watch. But I thought Kristen’s performance in Personal Shopper was the slightly better of the two.

  • MCR

    I keep picturing stand-ins holding Kristen’s place in the Starbucks line LOL.

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    I think CoSM was the start of a very important period in her life – and I am glad in so very many ways that she got the opportunity.

  • Eme

    Um, why didn’t he direct Kristen. Olivier???!!! I’m looking at you!!!

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    (And she almost didn’t.)

  • MCR

    Best of luck to her, and to the production.

  • MCR

    I hope somebody got his head handed to him over that little error.

  • Anna

    Ken, the leech, is still with her. And that other younger agent, too. So I think no one payed for that mess.

  • Anna

    It would be a bit too much.
    Plus, we want their third collaboration to be a movie not a fashion ad.

  • CJ

    I think Karl would’ve fought with him. lol

  • CJ

    Suzie posted a pic on a plane on Monday. I think she is there with Kristen.

  • Anna

    Probably.

  • Anna

    Karl took the pics but he didn’t direct the short that goes with them.

  • Stephanie

    😂:)

  • Eme

    LOL, MCR!!! Good one.

  • Eme

    I cannot wait to see the movie. I’m so wanting to discuss it with you and everyone on this board (but, of course, respecting that others will not have seen it yet).

  • Eme

    Lol!!!

  • Eme

    Oh, ok. If you put it that way. Hope her segment of the bag promo is good. Wonder how Olivier feels about the fact that, at least from the little we see in the trailer, that the story looks and feels a lot like PS!!

  • CJ

    I was just kidding but Karl directed the Coco Chanel’s short (2015). Do you know who directed Kristen’s short for this campaign?

  • Anna

    Daniel Askill (sp?).

  • Anna

    Hew probably just giggled at that. LOL

  • CJ

    Right!

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  • Eme

    Man, this writer just let it all hang out there. Talking about Olivier having spit coming out of his mouth when he speed talks . . . . I mean, come on!! Now I can’t get that picture out of my mind!! Kinda kills the attraction a bit when I read things like that!

  • Stephanie

    Yay! How she was unnoticed at the airport and without chasing by the crazy hungry paps that day make happy. She hates that.

  • Eme

    Honestly, I know Kristen is probably ok with her friends’ posting pics but it rubs me the wrong way. Js.

  • Anna

    I noticed that before so that wasn’t exactly a new info for me (but yeah, tmi).

  • Eme

    *Love* is blind!!! Lol! I never noticed it, but now I’ll be looking for it. Damn writer and his tmi ways!!

  • Anna

    She posted a pic of herself on a plane on her own instagram. It’s not her fault we are a super nosy fandom that likes connecting the dots.
    Suzie isn’t CJ.

  • CJ

    IA about Suzie. CJ (I’m not defending myself. lol) rarely post pics of Kristen too.

  • Anna

    But when he does……………………….
    And it’s not only pics, those insta stories can also be a problem, IMO.
    So, I’m glad if Suzie is her PA for Underwater instead of him.

  • Eme

    Sorry, what does IA mean?

  • Eme

    Oh, ok. I take that back about Suzie.

  • CJ

    I agree.

  • Stephanie

    Haha me too,Eme. Those abbreviations drive me crazy.

  • Eme

    Oh, ok. Duh!! Lol!!

  • Stephanie

    Ong, my thought was totally off. Thx.

  • Eme

    Thanks, Stephanie! I really feel pretty out of it (and sometimes really stupid when I’m informed about what the abbreviations mean!) when I don’t know the meaning.

  • CJ

    No problem. hey! How was the screening last Friday?

  • Stephanie

    Don’t feel bad. I know you are a smart lady.

  • Eme

    Yeah, maybe I’m reacting to CJ’s postings because they seem a little intrusive to me. I mean, I know he’s her friend and all but it still rubs me the wrong way to see those kinds of pics.

  • Eme

    Awww, thank you. And you’re a sweetheart!!

  • CJ

    I don’t remember any CJ’s Insta story showing Kristen. And I’m sure Kristen approves when he post pics of her.

  • Anna

    Yeah.
    I appreciate that he’s there for her (especially when she doesn’t have her BG with her because, well, you never know) but he doesn’t have to post every time he gets to meet someone famous through Kristen as soon as that happens. Plus, few other stuff.

  • Stephanie

    It’s a wonderful experience of my life. Met her in person was unbelievable. She is lovely lady.

  • Anna

    Maybe she does approve (but somehow I doubt she likes pap pics of herself) but I don’t (not that it matters what I think).

  • CJ

    She is! I’m happy for you!

  • CJ

    Sorry, but again I don’t remember CJ posting pap pics of Kristen on his IG.

  • Stephanie

    Thanks. 🙂

  • Eme

    Oh man. Of course I was immediately drawn to Pharrell’s bag. You know, the one that costs an obscene $33, 000!!!! These bags are soooo out there in their price tags. Smh. Chanel.

  • Anna

    He did.

  • Anna

    See: Birkin bag with the $250K price tag.

  • CJ

    I just look at all of his IG’s posts and I couldn’t find any.

  • Anna

    It was back in 2015. Since then he switched between his private account, official one, ect. But I know he did post it. Saw it with my own eyes. Have no reason to invent stuff.

  • Eme

    Oh. Does it look like the Chanel bags? (I’ll go search for it later. I want to stay on the board while I have the computer because hubby will want it later for taxes!).

  • Eme

    As long as he didn’t spit! Lol!

  • Eme

    F**king Ken!!

  • Anna

    No, it doesn’t. You probably saw them before, though.

    https://fortunedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/lot-3664_js274_1_shot-1.jpg

  • Stephanie

    Laughing is the best medicine. Thank you and Anna.

  • Anna

    Well, depends. If he can be as charming as Juliette in CoSM while doing it then……………………..

  • Anna

    <3

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  • Eme

    Cute. And I like the embellishment of the lock which kinda reminds me of Kristen’s necklace (which I love and covet). And the price is affordable. Thanks, Anna.

  • Stephanie

    😘. This board has become my to go for therapy after the disaster December 2016. It was shattered my life. I gradually feel better and let go.

  • Anna

    Glad I could help.To by that one you’ll need to pay $233,000.

  • Anna

    You just don’t let go of your daily life and trust time will slowly do its thing. You won’t forget but it will get much easier and eventually the hurt will mostly go away.

  • Stephanie

    Yes, I still miss her. Thanks for the philosophy. Love you Annna.

  • Eme

    I know what you mean, Stephanie. Same for me.

  • Eme

    Nah, that picture is in my head now and . . . it ain’t pretty. Juliette he is not!! LOL!!

  • Eme

    You’re welcome, sweetie!

  • Stephanie

    :)❤️

  • Anna

    Well, of course he isn’t. He needs beer for that.

  • Eme

    Oh, God. That made the pic worse in my head, Anna!!! LOL!!!

  • Eme

    OMG!!! I read $223.00 not $223, 000!!!!! Uh, no.

  • Eme

    God, just went back to look at your post. Didn’t even register $250K!! I’m so cracking myself up right now. Sure, “affordable”! LOL!!!

  • Eme

    And, hey, that $33,000 Chanel bag doesn’t seem so expensive now!! LOL!!

  • Anna

    LOL !!!
    I hope you are more careful while shopping for real.

  • Eme

    IKR!!!!

  • Anna

    Well, for billionaires it is.

  • Anna

    My point exactly.

  • Eme

    And, like, so not my circle!!!!

  • Anna

    (I’m glad I’m not one of those who are buying $250K bags because — really!?!)

  • Anna

    Love ya back!

  • Eme

    IKR?!! Who does those things?! With all the poverty and problems in this world somebody chooses to spend that kind of money on a bag?! I can’t comprehend that level of consumerism. And I’m glad I can’t connect with it even if I had that kind of money.

  • Anna

    MTE!

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  • MCR

    Hmph.

  • MCR

    But shipping is free. 😏

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  • Eme

    Hahaha!!!! Love it!!

  • Anna

    I’ll gladly pay shipping if they gave me the bag for free.

  • Eme

    It is traveling the planet!!! So Olivier is in UK with the *it*!

  • Alfred Birchall

    whoever dyed her hair around this time BD1 promo I think . Was doing a perfect job IMO Beautiful subtle colour..Sue B

  • Anna

    This was BD2 promo but yes, that’s my favorite hair color on her.

  • Alfred Birchall

    I know that BD 1 promo she had the black extensions she had put in for Swath ! Was this from the Australian promo she did with Taylor ? Or was it the TV show they all did in Spain Yes I think it is because she has the translator thing in her ears. TY Anna but it was a beautiful colour wasn’t it Very tonal not all the block colouring she had for Swath. Sue B.

  • Anna

    Yes, they were on that Spanish talk show.
    I think it was partly mostly that color with touch of her natural hair color. It looked so great on her and she kept it till mid Aug 2013 when she dyed it dark brown for CoSM.

  • Stephanie

    Lol…I love how you put to a paragraph.

  • Stephanie

    Lol. That is a good one, MCR.

  • Stephanie

    Haha. Make sure check the shipping charge Anna.

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  • Eme

    I read this more as his interpretation of Olivier’s directorial style which leads to a frustration that the film and Kristen’s performance were not fully realized. And, sorry, any critic that writes about imagining how another actress might emote a scene better is showing his bias, imo.

  • MCR

    I agree, that’s what he was getting at; but I think he’s wrong. He seems to see Kristen breaking through her past limitations a bit, and blames the director for not letting her be herself. Just my take.

  • Anna

    Critics tend to do that even with actors/actresses they like so I don’t see it as bias.
    And that about Assayas’ directing style not precisely working here is because he think material demands more from Kristen than her usual skills (which brings us back to limited range thing).

  • MCR

    But he doesn’t seem to be accusing her of limited range. “Kristen Stewart is as fine an actress as she is a misunderstood one.” He praises her abilities, and every grievance about the movie points to the director: *he* uses ineffective camera work, over-directs her, fails to emphasize dramatic moments, and the result is that “Stewart’s distinctive qualities are submerged.” I’m not saying he’s right, but his complaints are all about Assayas’ direction, not about Kristen’s acting.

  • Anna

    And we know from what both Kristen and Olivier said that it’s probably the opposite: he gave her all the freedom she needed to construct the scenes, to establish the rhythm and to use camera angles as she saw it fit. She directed that film from inside. So maybe it’s not Assayas’ direction that he has issues with but the lack of it. Only, that still isn’t enough to explain why he, the critic, thinks that certain elements are missing from lead performance in some moments. It’s one thing when a director is not using the best of what he is getting from an actor/actress and completely different when he’s not getting it at all (if an actor/actress can’t perform certain elements well that means his/her range is probably limited).

  • Eme

    We’ll have to agree to disagree on this one, Anna. I see definite bias but that’s me.

  • Anna

    Fine with me.

  • Eme

    My reply to you seems to have gone to Disque never land lol! Basically, I replied that I haven’t seen PS yet, but I doubt that I would agree with the critic and that I’d take Cannes jury take on Olivier as a director than his.

  • Anna

    Landmark theater Q&A full video.

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  • BrendaStar

    The picture of Kristen is beautiful, and the article about Kristen is lovely too.

  • Anna

    Fluff piece (aka lazy journalism).

  • Eme

    I wondered if the person really interviewed her because I remember quotes from other articles. At least it wasn’t a negative fluff piece. There is that.

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  • BrendaStar

    This is a really different review so I struggled to make sense of it. I had the impression this film really made sense to this critic, and he conveyed his interpretation of the film well. He seems critical of the film because it does not convey the required intimicy and sensuality, and he blames Assayas and the way it is filmed. He admires Kristen as an actress, but feels she is not performing as naturally as usual. That is an unusual criticism of Kristen.

  • Anna

    Happy Birthday, Isabelle!
    (I think everyone here has the same wish.)

    https://twitter.com/TheFilmStage/status/842364905634316289

  • Anna

    Yeah.
    But it’s a dull one.

  • Eme

    Yup. Good morning, Ms. Anna!

  • Anna

    Mornin’, milady!

  • Eme

    I love my name! I feel like royalty!

  • Anna

    He’s again mentioning about that period piece he would like to make someday with Kristen.

    https://twitter.com/_Rejane_Santos/status/842382822816006150

  • Eme

    I read this one early this am & liked it. Read some parts to hubby so that he’s prepared for his frustration, lol, when we see the film.

  • Anna

    Pick yourself a nice tiara then ;P

  • Eme

    Hehehe! Cute!

  • Anna

    LOL

  • Eme

    Happy Birthday to this gorgeous and uber talented woman!

  • BrendaStar

    It is a good morning because PS is at 79% on RT and CW wt 92%. I found a review yesterday from Australia that is full of praise for PS, Kristen and Assayas but throws in some provocative comments/insults about them as well. I read the New Yorker review afterwards and found this review the more troubling. Sorry, but I have to go for now. https://filmink.com.au/reviews/personal-shopper/

  • BrendaStar

    It is made for mass consumption. I consider it good PR:-)

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    It’s full of negative implications and pretty much relies on how general public already sees her (nothing too positive there). That guy didn’t try to get anything new from/about her. It’s like writing that piece was some kind of punishment for him.

  • Eme

    I liked that last line.

  • Eme

    And exploring her humorous side. A comedy period piece. Intriguing thought.

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  • Stephanie

    😂. Morning Anna!

  • Anna

    Mornin’ sunshine!

  • Stephanie

    Morning Eme!
    You and Anna already cracked me up.

  • Stephanie

    Aww. I love it

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  • Eme

    Morning, sweetie! Glad we could make you smile! Warms my heart!

  • MCR

    Sorry to quibble, but…He may not be insanely pretentious, personally, but is he okay with selling a pocketbook for the average family’s annual income? Couldn’t he use his influence to have it sold for a rational amount – say, double what it takes to manufacture? (I know, this is a different world with its own set of standards, and I should just ignore it.)

  • nuca

    Yes! I knew that PS would be a seccess when I saw it:) glad the critics love it so much

  • Guest

    Very. I can’t wait. Though I think it’s probably a few years away.

  • Anna

    Karl? He’s just a designer. The house of Chanel is putting those price tags on its products.
    And, tbh, none of these high fashion brands exist for us commoners. In that sense, and I know it sounds weird, in a world of rich labels like Chanel, Dior, ect. are cheap and aren’t considered as luxury brands (not in the way we see them).
    We can’t expect from them to act differently because that’s just not the way they think.
    The best thing we can hope for is that they are at least giving some of that money to charity.
    In much bigger scheme of things, fashion industry is one of world’s smaller problems.
    No one said life was fair.

  • BrendaStar

    It is really nice for Kristen and Assayas as well as for this fandom. Glad you saw PS! I haven’t yet.

  • Anna

    I want to look like her at 64.

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    I would to see that period piece! Hope it happens some day.

  • BrendaStar

    I have been hoping to see Kristen in a comedy for a long time. A comedy period piece would be great. Assayas loves to mix genres so he could do it.

  • Anna

    If Come Swim gets selected for Cannes this year, this is the sidebar selection it will be part off.

    https://twitter.com/OnTheCroisette/status/842393976145600512

  • Anna

    It’s kinda a separate thing for main events in Cannes (May 17-28) and it has different schedule (and it’s far from being a glamorous thing).

    https://twitter.com/Mel452/status/842204566196178945

    (Reminder, Underwater filming should wrap on May 26th so who knows if she will attend if Come Swim gets in.)

  • Anna

    As far as I know, PS isn’t on VOD yet. SMH.

    https://twitter.com/_Rejane_Santos/status/842441995381534720

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  • Eme

    I agree. Gives Olivier time to really fine tune it!

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  • Eme

    Don’t we all! And have the same *fu, badass, don’t mess with me* aura which grows more important as one gets older.

  • Anna

    That attitude is something we need each day of our lives.

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  • Eme

    We mere mortals are not these couture brands target population. So the issues of the world (political, social, psychological, etc.) are not in their attention span. So, I don’t expect any of these brands to be socially conscious in the way that we would like them to be. And, I don’t think most of their target population are either. Hence, they don’t bat an eye to paying that obscene $33, 000 for the Gabrielle bag.

  • Eme

    Yup.

  • Eme

    Good read. Writer took Kristen’s words re acting and actually wrote a pretty honest read of her. The last paragraph sums it up pretty well for me.

  • Eme

    *Alternative facts*. Don’t these people proof read or research?

  • Eme

    Well, if it gets in, I hope she can attend. Even if it’s not one of the glamorous events – it’s still Cannes!

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    IKR?!

    And when they say it’s on VOD they are actually affecting some people’s decision to go to see it in a theater (if they are interested in seeing it but have to look for it they will probably give up and say “oh well, I’ll watch it on VOD then”). SMH.

  • Anna

    Of course.
    I’m just worried filming will come first. We’ll see.

  • Eme

    Yup. Unbelievable.

  • Eme

    Filming always comes first. But, yeah, we’ll see.

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    Apparently, she just said this on French TV.

    https://twitter.com/MissKrisbian/status/842459275607826433

  • Eme

    OMG!!!!!

  • Anna

    Directors, what the hell are you waiting for?!

  • Eme

    IKR?!!! My wish: Pair her with Isabelle H. and/or Catherine D. – like yesterday, people!!!

  • Stephanie

    I’m sorry for asking who is Catherine Deneuve?

  • Eme

    One of the legends in French cinema. And, in her heyday, was deemed the most beautiful woman in the world.

  • Alfred Birchall

    Bloody good resume as far as I am concerned .Well done that critic ! I don’t ever expect her to be Streep Even Streep isn’t the actress from The Deerhunter anymore . Some people may want to see her be more like all the other actresses of her peer group /generation .I don’t I want her to be anything they are going to be .And to be herself in her 30’s 40′ all the way to Old Age Truth is her forte ..always was . Sue B

  • Stephanie

    Thx Eme.

  • Eme

    You’re welcome, you youngster you!!

  • Anna

    She is a legend!
    She’s one of the greatest French actresses (people tend to pick between her and Isabelle H.) and, as such, is one of the best actresses out there in general.

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000366/

  • Eme

    Yup!! You tell ’em, Sue B.

  • BrendaStar

    Wow! That is a great endorsement.

  • Stephanie

    Haha. I promise I will catch up of the old time.

  • Anna

    She’s still very beautiful. Natural dame.

  • Stephanie

    Wow. Hope all directors take note. Thanks Anna.

  • Eme

    No, not necessary. You be you. We of the older generation will always take the opportunity to inform you of the legends of our time!!

  • Eme

    Absolutely!

  • Alfred Birchall

    Catherine Deneuve and her sister Francois D’orleac were two mega stars of French cinema Check out a film she made with David Bowie The Hunger about the Vampires of Legend she is a legend in her own lifetime. And a very beautiful woman

  • Stephanie

    😘.

  • Stephanie

    Thanks. I learned a great art history today.

  • Anna

    I see it a bit differently (you know my stand when it comes to mixing it up and trying something that is truly different from roles she usually accepts) but that’s OK.
    She may be living her truth but, at same time, she’s one of few actresses that the media (and thus, general public too) lies about the most, on a daily basis. Ironic, isn’t it?

  • Alfred Birchall

    That’s why this side of the fandom divide will always be the best one. We inform and consider and don’t slavishly follow .We ask questions share opinions and don’t throw shade and aim always to be informative ,Ask a question and if someone knows the answer they will impart the info without condescension.

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    You are welcome 🙂

  • Alfred Birchall

    Anna I have just clicked on Catherine Deneuves IMDB profile ( per your link ) Fascinating life she has had and so far ahead of her time ( Or not really ) It states that Kristen is one of her favourite actresses. Long read but very informative her attitudes are very modern for a woman of 74. Sue B

  • Anna

    Yeah, she really was ahead of her time in some aspects (as far as I can tell by reading about her because much of it happened before I was even born) and she did have a wild side, too. I guess that’s how it goes with most people who are remembered – they always tend to rock the boat, at least a little, and they almost never settle for status quo.

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    Uh oh. With her recent BO track, this budget is too big.

    Estimated total budget: $65 million.
    Estimated Louisiana budget: $35.5 million.
    Estimated Louisiana payroll: $17.5 million.

    When?: Extended local shoot set to begin March 20. Pre-production crews have been in town working on the film since Nov. 7, according to the city-run Film New Orleans. No release date announced.

  • Furry Outsider

    She is french Elizabeth Taylor…

  • Anna

    She wasn’t *that*, um, prone to scandals.
    And she didn’t love diamonds as much (if at all). LOL
    And was/is a (far) better actress, IMO.

  • csm123

    That’s great. It shows that Fox execs believe they have something with this movie or they won’t commit something like $65 million to film it.

  • Anna

    Nope.
    They have a star that isn’t a BO draw anymore (and is still one of the worst actresses if you are asking general public) and bunch of D-listers as her co-stars, mediocre director, terrible script (guy who wrote it is now set to write Suicide Squad 2 and he/his work was a joke of the day among industry people on twitter when that was announced few days ago) about something that sounds way too familiar (so they don’t even have originality as project’s advantage), ect. I could go on and on with things that are being said about Underwater but there’s time. One thing is clear, though: I’m yet to hear *one* person saying that the movie has any potential to be something good (for a popcorn movie).

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    You may be describing Alicia Vikander’s Tomb Raider except that it is a much more expensive movie and Vikander will be compared to Angelina Jolie and that’s not a comparison any young actress should be welcoming.

  • Anna

    Alicia Vikander can take it. Her career can take it (if it fails). Kristen’s ? Not exactly.
    People working on that movie (which, btw, is a prequel and everyone knows it – studio made sure of that – so no one is expecting to see Lara’s character in full action mode) are much better than those working on Underwater and, from set pics I saw, Vikander looks quite good in that role. So, I wouldn’t worry too much about her.

    And what kind of argument is “look at Vikander”?! Whether she fails or succeeds as Lara Croft is irrelevant, it has nothing to do with Kristen’s flop of a project.

  • Furry Outsider

    You right, but CD was just more secretive than EB… 🙂
    And she loves luxury a lot…
    My favorite and the best is from that generation – Sophia Loren…

  • Guest

    You should keep a copy of this post and just paste it every day for the next year and a half. It will save you from having to have a fresh meltdown every time this movie comes up.

  • csm123

    The point I am making is that your insistence that Kristen should only work on popcorn movies with Oscar winning writers, directors and scripts that have already proven to have worked is not based in reality. Most Hollywood mid to big budget movies are back-seat driven by studio executives and Underwater is no exception. As far as Alicia’s career goes I like that she is being bold and is not afraid of picking risky projects. Yeah, there is a risk that her movie will bomb but the upside is that it may be a success and that would elevate her to completely another level. Emma Watson’s new movie Beauty and The Beats is going to make over a billion but who gives a shit ? Disney made The Jungle Book with an unknown Indian actor whose name no one can pronounce and it made a billion too. Making original movies is a risk but there is a greater payoff at the end if it succeeds. If it fails then Kristen can always make more indies. What does she have to lose anyway if you are convinced that she is already a loser?

  • Anna

    IDK. Maybe. But I don’t think her life was *that* boisterous, to put it nicely.
    She did. And she still does (she’s one of faces of LV). But Elisabeth’s love for luxury (especially for fine and extremely expensive jewelry is a very well known fact).
    Ah, Sophia………………….. Yup, there’s something about her too. But she had quite a different energy, as a woman and as an actress, compared to both Catherine and Elizabeth.

  • Guest

    She’s convinced even indie movies and staples like Chanel (that *second* new campaign looks amazing, doesn’t it?) want nothing to do with her anymore.

  • Anna

    Unsolicited advices are, um, rude.
    And get a grip, please: that was just stating some facts and opinions on a subject. Just because *you* don’t like it, it doesn’t mean someone is having a meltdown.
    You make me laugh.

  • Guest

    mmm, most people who stop by here have witnessed your previous meltdowns and yeah, they’re all pretty much like this. We know budgets and writers trigger you.

  • Stephanie

    Thanks.

  • Anna

    a) Learn to read.
    Because nowhere did I mention Oscar winning directors. World is not black and white. Meaning, there aren’t only two types of directors: Oscar winning ones and bad ones. There are those who are good but have no that golden guy in their possession and are making mainstream films. Why not try to pick one of them? Because what are you going to learn from someone who is average at best?
    b) And most of those films are — flops.
    If a movie isn’t a super-hero one or a live action of Disney’s famous animated fairly tale or a horror with a small budget, chances for it to be a BO success are — slim. That’s why they aren’t made as often as before (decade or so ago).
    c) And they bitch when I start talking about other actresses and their career choices. Talk about hypocrites.
    Agree about Vikander. You are wrong about Emma Watson because the fact that she’s back in a big style is something that many people in the industry care about. Jungle Book was a CGI movie and that boy was a good choice (who would you pick, anyway? it’s not like there are world famous child actors of his age and ethnicity).
    d) Because it’s such a risk (especially for someone in Kristen’s position), quality of the script and people behind it is crucial.
    Of course she can go back to indies. But what kind of indies? She herself said just the other day that you have to achieve certain success in mainstream real in order to keep working on the kind of art house stuff you want to. So, you see, a lot is at stake here.

  • Anna

    Hmmm.
    I only see one person here having a meltdown — you. Every.single.time I post something precious you can’t handle or accept.

    Grow up and let people express their opinions.
    Oh, and one more thing: if you think I’m the only one who thinks that about this project . . . I’ll have to disappoint you – it’s predominant opinion among fans (and people outside of this fandom).

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    LOL

  • Eme

    It is ironic, yes. And unfair. Life.

  • csm123

    a.) So what is your criteria then ? Adam Cozad’s last two high profile projects made money at the Box Office. He has also worked for Ridley Scott and was just signed up to write a sequel for Suicide Squad, a $750 million Worldwide movie. The director had his last movie selected for Sundance and it had decent reviews. He is exactly the kind of director studios pick to direct these movies, see Jurassic World’s director.

    b.) No , most of these movies are not flops. Fox studio is not going out of business last I checked.

    c.) I don’t suffer from inferiority complex on Kristen’s behalf when I am discussing other actresses. I try to look at it rationally. There are many different ways actors/actresses can be successful. The fact that a studio is going to give Kristen a $65 million movie to lead should tell you that there are people in the industry who disagree with your assessment of Kristen’s career. Ultimately, money walks and bullshit talks.

    d) Why is it a risk for someone in Kristen’s position ? What is Kristen’s position exactly ? Kristen has been making low profile indies for the past 4 years and she can always go back to making low profile indies that cost a couple of millions to make. Her Personal Shopper box office is more important than her Underwater box office in that regard. If Underwater is a financial success it will open doors for her to make the kind of $15-20 million indies that she probably can’t greenlight nowadays as well as making her an attractive option for a studio lead. So you’ll have to excuse me if I don’t see the downside for someone in Kristen’s position. I made Vikander comparison for a reason because she is taking a much bigger risk than Kristen, see post-Oscars Halle Berry when she made Catwoman .

  • BrendaStar

    PS is at 80% on RT! How high will it go?

  • Stephanie

    That is great. Keep going please. Thanks Brenda.

  • Anna

    a) One of those two films wasn’t an original idea (Tarzan), which means it already had a built-in audience, and the other one had a very well known David Koepp as a co-writer. He was hired for SQ2 and, as I said, was a joke of the day (because people know how “good” writer he is). Movies like SQ don’t need good scripts to be BO success (SQ1 was s**t) nor do they need good imagination as characters and stories are already well developed – in comic books. JW belongs to the same group with Tarzan – already existing audience (so they don’t have to try much). Underworld has *none* of that. So for it to succeed with the kind of audience we have today, it needs to have few other things: hot star/cast (not the case here), good story (not the case here), striking visuals (we’ll see about that), full-on non-stop action (there will be some of that but neither Kristen nor those other actors are action stars and she also described it as a piece of theater in some moments so it won’t be a non-stop action). Simply said, you aren’t going to make a good film based on a (very) bad story. Period.

    b) They aren’t because they have those super-hero films and other franchises.

    c) I don’t suffer from that, either. But I don’t think everything is perfect with Kristen’s career like some. The fact that she got a studio movie no one else wanted (years in line, waiting to get someone interested in it are quite telling) is something you don’t want to address. Because, where are those other solid actors rushing to work on it? AU had better cast even though it had much smaller budget and was an indie bought but a wannabe studio. If you think studios only invest in those projects that they are sure will get them their money back I have a bridge to sell you.

    d) What is Kristen’s position? She’s an actress that great majority of people sees as a bad one who also happens to cheat on her BF, is so gay now (and, as unfair as it is, that still isn’t something positive for majority of people in the US and around the world) and didn’t do anything worthy of their mention since Twilight ended. Harsh, cruel even, but, sadly, real.
    What are the risks? Underwater will have a wide distribution. Which means general audience will finally get to see her in a movie (first time after BD2). If it is a bad one it will only confirm their opinion that she is a bad actress in s**ty films. That should be enough for you, as her fan. But, it far from being the only risk. Much of what happened with AU was pushed under the rug because, as I said, it was an indie originally. And it was Lionsgate’s movie (and big studios look down on them). But if this one turns out to be a flop, doors of that whole studio system (which can produce serious films, as well, from time to time, or buy one of her good indies) will be closed for her. So, no more studio made or maybe even studio distributed projects for her. Is that serious enough for you?
    Perception of her as an unsuccessful actress in a year when 10 years anniversary of first Twilight will be “celebrated” will be also something general public will get to see. It will mean a big step back compared to her competition. And so on and on.
    Vikander is 10x better actress than Halle ever was. And she’s not POC (meaning, it’s easier for her to get good roles). Plus, she already has two projects that will put her in awards race again this year. Halle never got that chance again. So, your comparison doesn’t stand.

  • Anna
  • Anna

    Hmm. Some new info here.
    Olivier is already “writing a small scale French film at the moment that’s set in Paris”.

    https://twitter.com/Esthermccarthy/status/842465406757527553

  • csm123

    a.) How do you know the story is bad ? It most definitely isn’t. As far as I know people have only read the first draft and it reads as a survival story in the same vein as the Thing, Aliens, Predator, Evil Dead with a group of individual isolated in a hostile environment and taken out one by one. That’s not a bad story by any stretch of imagination. The story has been further revised so we don’t even know what the shooting draft looks like.

    b.) Fox’s biggest misfire in recent years was a super hero movie Fantastic Four and they have done just fine with Peter Chernin, the guy who is producing Underwater.

    c.) If you think a studio like Fox will give away $65 million in order to make a flop then I have a $100 million beachfront property in Nebraska for you. If they didn’t think they had something they wouldn’t be spending money on a project like this. The fact that they don’t owe anyone in the cast/crew anything only bolsters my position. You can make an argument that someone like Ridley Scott can get a few millions from Fox for a passion project because he has made a ton of money for them. How much money has Kristen, the director or others in the cast/crew have made the studio ? Nothing as far as I can tell.

    d.) Kristen can’t change Twilight, she can’t change her dating history or the fact that she is out. She probably wouldn’t even change anything if she could. If you think these are big enough factors for Underwater then they will be big enough factors for any other big budget movie that she is offered. Secondly, I don’t give a fuck about Twilight’s 10th anniversary same as most functioning humans on planet earth. This has nothing to do with anything and a cover story on Entertainment Weekly is not going to change anything. Thirdly, you have convinced yourself that Kristen is a flop actress and the movie will flop. If you believe that then what makes you think she will ever get better movies ? Her career is evolving and Underwater is part of that evolution. Maybe the movie will be great and will make a lot of money. Maybe it will be decent and do enough at the box office or maybe it will fail terribly at the box office and critically. I am just glad that Kristen is taking creative risks because that’s exactly what someone in her position needs to do.

  • Anna

    P.S.
    If 20th Century Fox is so sure Underwater has some potential, why it isn’t listed on their IMDb page together with their other projects? It’s not one of theirs “in development” films, which can be seen only on IMDb Pro, so it should be there, listed on their page.
    Same goes for that other production company, Chernin Entertainment – it’s not on their page either.
    They are so excited about it. Not!

  • csm123

    On one hand they are spending $65 million on a movie. On another, one of their interns hasn’t bothered to update their IMDB page in months. Which sign do I trust more ? FYI, producers/studios offically update IMDB page after the final credits are set. A lot of the edits that you will see from now to 2018 will be done by agents of people working on the movie and by IMDB pro members based on publicly available information.

  • Anna
  • Anna

    So, they have their final credits set for movies that are due 2020 or 2021?
    Whatever excuse works for you.

  • Anna
  • Anna
  • csm123

    That’s not an excuse. People associated with movies or IMDB pro members can update whenever they want to. The official update is done when the final credits are set. Billy Lynn’s IMDB page showed Slumdog Millionaire’s writer as the one with writing credit for months because his name appeared in the initial press release. Sony removed his name only when they set the final credits.

  • Anna

    I’m talking about *studio’s* page. Why aren’t they listing it there? How much time it takes to do that? 30 sec, a minute? So why not just do it? Maybe…because they couldn’t care less?
    You can fight it as much as you like but that *is* one of possibilities. So when you at that to everything else……………………..

  • csm123

    Please tell me you really believe that an irrelevant edit on an IMDB page is more important to a studio than the budget and the effort they put in a movie. Just because IMDB is important to you doesn’t mean that it is as important to the studios and the producers. It is just a fucking website that people use to find out who is in a movie. Nothing more.

  • Anna

    Sigh. I’m tired of repeating myself and answering all the same questions over and over again. But OK, lets do it.

    a) I know because people do have a newer version of it (I didn’t get it yet). And guess what – it’s still bad. So bad that for the first time in my almost 8 years in this fandom, I’m seeing fans wondering what the hell is Kristen seeing in that story. And those people had experience with all kinds of scripts over the years.
    Also, those other films you are using as comparison…check who are their directors.

    b) That one was a bomb of epic proportions. And they had other films that underperformed, to put it nicely.

    c) Honey, they made Fantastic Four (people knew that script was weak but they still made it). Enough said. Games that happen within big studios aren’t always led by logic. And listen to this: *sometimes*, just sometimes, they are even ready to throw away their money through a window because…reasons.

    d) It doesn’t matter what she wants. I’m talking about how she is perceived by the same people who need to want to see Underwater because of – her (what else is there to attract them to Underwater?). That’s why it matters. And that’s her *situation” you refuse to take in count.
    Of course those things are affecting how studio world sees her. It’s obvious. What do you think she’s not in the running for the best roles out there? But, if she could just take some time (but not too much) and find a far less risky mainstream project than Underwater then maybe a mainstream success wouldn’t be so out of her reach which then could bring her back some of that BO cred she all lost. A bit of planning wont kill her. On the contrary.
    People don’t give a f**k about many things and yet they are reading about it because they are . . . bored, curious, masochists, whatever. It’s enough to see same titles repeated few times and that info will stick with them. That’s how perceptions are formed, as superficial as they seem. So, it may be completely irrelevant on the surface but it does matter.
    Kristen isn’t a flop actress, she’s just too chill when it comes to certain things. And reckless with other stuff. But yes, IMO Underwater will most likely be a flop (I *don’t* want it to be but, based on what I’m seeing, it probably will). You, on the other hand, think it has potential. Only, when I state my opinion I’m the enemy of the state and must be piped down.
    There’s nothing creative about Underwater.
    I’m not against her taking risk. But I’m against taking unnecessary ones (which her latest choices are, IMO).
    Just because I think differently from you it doesn’t mean I’m not a fan. Learn to accept that.

  • Anna

    Exactly. All the money and the effort and yet they can’t treat it as their other projects. Why?
    You think it’s nothing. I see it as a small sign of how (un)interested in that movie they *really* are. Small sign, yes, but telling.
    (And IMDb isn’t *only* that but you can think whatever you like:)

  • csm123

    I am not going to repeat myself again but who has the latest script ? From what I can tell no one in the fandom has read it. They are ll going by the 88 pages first draft which seems to have been greatly modified since then

  • csm123

    No offense but you don’t know what the fuck you are talking about. IMDB is irrelevant to studios for movies in development. It has no value whatsoever. Studios’ internet/social media focus is entirely on movies that have been made and are nearing release. Go and check their website and social media accounts.

  • Anna

    Underwater isn’t in development, it’s ready to start with principal photography in few days.
    As for whether studios care about IMDb or not…go check Sony’s leaked emails. You’ll learn few things.
    So, no offense but you don’t know what the fuck you are talking about.

  • Anna
  • Anna
  • Anna

    I can’t believe I forgot about these pics of Kristen and our birthday girl. LOL

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7DDV_WWsAAXo_p.jpg

  • csm123

    Tell us more about 20th Century Fox’s IMDB strategy. Who maintains the page etc. ? I am actually shocked that someone who follows movie productions thinks that IMDB is somehow relevant for movies that haven’t been finished yet.

  • Anna

    Studio’s page is *not* the same as film’s IMDb page (that can be updated even by cast members’ teams not only producers).
    Come back when you learn to differentiate the two.

    I’m shocked that you are ready to go against common sense just to prove me wrong.
    I’m seeing links and screencaps for/of IMDb (Pro) pages on my timeline on a daily basis because – surprise! – people from the industry (scriptwriters and producers I follow) go to that site to check different stuff about status of projects they are interested in for whatever reason. Hell, trades are using those status updates in their articles/reports.
    By all means, keep thinking that IMDb is *nothing*. It only makes me laugh more.

  • csm123

    Common sense – Yeah, Fox is spending $65 million on a movie but just because one of their interns has not updated their IMDB page it doesn’t matter. Jesus Christ, are you completely nuts ?

  • MCR

    Serious question…
    You’ve often said about roles Kristen has taken, “This isn’t the kind of movie she should be doing,” and above, “If she could just take some time…” and find the right mainstream project, etc.
    I’ve never gotten a clear idea of what kind of movies you have in mind for her when you say this. I know which movies you think she *shouldn’t* be doing – the ones she *is* doing – but which ones is she damaging her career by passing by?
    For example, which movies filmed in the past year would likely be available to her, considering her position, and have roles you think she should have taken on?

  • Anna

    I repeat: learn to read, ffs!
    I said it was a “small sign” or indicator, call it as you wish, that is telling to me.

    You have issues with that? I don’t freaking care. It’s my *opinion*.
    So, Jesus Christ, are *you* completely nuts ?

  • csm123

    You know what the funny thing is ? You’ve been telling me to read all this time and still can’t find Underwater on their IMDB page. Yeah, it is listed there.

    http://www.imdb.com/company/co0000756/?ref_=ttco_co_2

  • Anna

    You want an example? Of a studio/mainstream film? Here’s one: Annihilation.
    Good director, good original story/concept that is also quite challenging with interesting characters, solid cast and crew. Also quite risky but, even if it fails, it’ll still have some value.

  • Anna

    Under production, yes.
    Not under distribution. So, they are investing all that money in it, they are making it but they aren’t sure if they will distribute it in the end? And no release year, not even a tentative one? That’s insecurity right there.

  • Eme

    Question: what does the number next to the titles mean?

  • csm123

    I guess it can get worse for Fox. They also have the next Alien movie listed next to Underwater and that will cost $200 million. Damn, Fox studios is drowning in incompetence.

  • csm123

    Year of release.

  • csm123

    Why do you want Kristen to star in a movie that is not being distributed by a studio. Paramount is only producing it and not distributing it according to the distribution gospel IMDB.

    http://www.imdb.com/company/co0023400/?ref_=ttco_co_1

  • Anna

    That’s not *the* Alien sequel (the one that is coming out this year). That one is literally only announced and is in development hell (status “unknown”). So yeah, it’s a great company to be in.

  • Eme

    No, sorry. I meant what does the number beside the word Moviemeter mean? Is it the ranking of the movie? How can there be a ranking when it hasn’t been made yet? Sorry, I’m not familiar at all with this.

  • csm123

    The one coming out this year is the Prometheus Sequel. Blomkamp signed up to direct the Aliens sequel and that will star Sigourney Weaver.

  • MCR

    Thanks.

  • Anna

    Sure but *everything* else about it is good. Everything.
    Working on such a great material with such a promising director and some of the best actors out there while playing a character that gets her outside of her comfort zone vs. s**ty script, mediocre director, no-name cast and crew. It doesn’t take a scientist to figure out what is a *far* better option.

  • Anna

    You are welcome.

  • Anna

    And is currently — nowhere. Compare that to a movie that is about to start filming. Levels of uncertainty aren’t quite the same and yet, those two projects are in the same group.

  • csm123

    Yep, a supporting role in a mid-budget movie is so much better than a lead role in another studio movie. If Kristen wants to be a lead actress in Hollywood she will have to become one. That won’t happen while she is competing with the likes of Tessa Thompson for a supporting role that pays $200k. As far as mediocre directors go, there were 9 movies that made the Best Picture list and half of those would classify as mediocre in your opinion and not one of them is a legit A-list director so you will have to excuse me if I don’t take your definition of medicority seriously.

  • Anna

    There are, as far as I remember, something like 4 co-leads in that one, 3 of which female. Or, if you like, it’s an ensemble.
    If I have to choose between great ensemble and a lead role in a (very) problematic project (that *has* to deliver at BO), I choose the former. Still Alice over AU every single time.
    Sigh. Some of you people here (you and Guest) can be such hypocrites. Here I am talking that she isn’t in the same position she used to be, that she can’t open a (mainstream) movie anymore, that she’s not ready to be a sole lead in mainstream projects and I get called out as if I’m one of those haters. But now when you are saying it – oh, it’s just fine. Like a kid in high school. SMH
    But OK. I’ll answer. Money? She doesn’t care. Nor needs it. And it wouldn’t be the first time for her to take a significant pay cut. So that’s not the problem that can stop her from getting a role in such project if everything else lines up.
    Are you being serious now??? Like, really!?! You are comparing Underwater’s director’s previous work to BP nominated films and their directors???? The guy made one, I repeat one, feature film that is 54 on Metascore. Everything to prove me wrong, I guess.
    So sorry if I’m not taking your ability to think clearly about anything seriously anymore.

  • Anna
  • Anna

    Are you looking at film’s page? If so, that Moviemeter is the same as Starmeter for actors/directors/ect. No one really knows how exactly those numbers are calculated but they are usually a combination of hits/clicks that page is getting (a movie doesn’t have to be finished for people to be interested in it) and how many articles are posted about said project because IMDb uploads those too (+ comment boards activity before they were shut down).
    But, it can be manipulated (at least, Starmeter can) and good positions can be bought (there are agencies that, for money, can generate enough false “traffic” on actor’s page so that his Starmeter rises to top 500, for example).
    I hope this helps a bit.

  • Anna
  • Eme

    Yes. Thanks Anna. Explanation was very helpful.

  • csm123

    Same group as in IMDB lists them as Fox production but not Fox distribution. You are even more awesome than I thought if you actually believe that Fox will spend $150-200 million on the Alien sequel but not distribute it. Or maybe you should consider the possibility that IMDB isn’t the end all and be all source of movies in pre-production/production/development. I mean this is the same IMDB that had Kristen’s character name in Cafe Society listed as Teresa until the movie promo started and people realized that her character name is Vonnie.

  • Guest

    I’m dying. They’re spending $65 million on a movie they already hate. Because imdb is “telling”. So very telling.

  • Anna

    We’ll talk about that one when it comes out from development hell. Till then – anything can happen (for the record, I’m not rooting for that project to fall apart or anything).
    Fans with access to IMDb Pro can submit for changes of info on actors’/actresses’ pages. So, odd things happen sometimes. And everyone is aware of it. But we aren’t talking about a person here, we are talking about big company and its page.

  • Anna

    Don’t die. I’m counting on you to make me laugh. I mean, your reading comprehension skills are hilariously bad.

  • csm123

    Barry Jenkins had made one movie before Moonlight. That was back in 2008 and it has 63 on Metacritic. He then directed a Best Picture winner.

    Ted Melfi had made one movie before Hidden Figures. That was St Vincent and it has 64 on Metacritic.

    Lion is Garth Davis’ first feature film.

    The idea that a director who doesn’t make a masterpiece with his debut movie is consigned to mediocrity is patently ridiculous. I can’t even imagine your meltdowns if Moonlight had a role for a 20 something white actress and somehow Kristen was cast. A black movie, a gay movie by a director who made a mediocre movie back in 2008. Obviously, Kristen’s career is over.

    Also, wrt. to your first point, Hollywood lets actors/actresses find their niches. If Kristen’s niche becomes supporting roles in ensembles then that’s what she will get. I am glad she sees herself better than that and is willing to prove her lead actress credentials. You don’t think she is a lead actress so let us agree to disagree.

  • csm123

    I mean it is okay if you think Underwater will flop but it won’t be because its IMDB page isn’t as informative at this stage as you want it to be.

  • csm123

    The point is that if Fox is producing that movie then they are also distributing it. I don’t give a fuck what IMDB says or doesn’t say at this stage in pre-production. Prod Weekly lists Matt Dunne as the first AD but he is not listed on IMDB. Do they hate him too ?

  • Anna

    Bary’s first film is 83% fresh on RT. Also, the guy was awarded for his shorts.
    Melfi’s first one is 78% fresh on RT (and it got couple of awards at some festivals).
    Davis was Emmy and BAFTA nominated director before he made Lion (plus, he was awarded for his short films).

    Eubank films? 57% and 60% rotten on RT. Critical acclaim? Zero. Nada.

    Bary’s and Melfi’s second movies and Davis’ first feature film also had great casts, scripts that were solid or better, experienced crew, ect. Underwater? None of that.

    And those debut films *you* are calling mediocre? They all were nominated and/or won critics’ and or/festival awards. I don’t see any that under Eubank’s name.

    So, try again!

    Hollywood isn’t letting anyone do anything. You need to fight for every single thing, they won’t *let you* get it. And Kristen already had a niche. But she lost it.
    Oh, hypocrisy strikes again. So now Kristen is trying to prove something to people. I thought she was doing everything *only* for herself? (Sarcasm mode on.)
    You and Guest need to go back to school and learn reading all over again. I never said I don’t think of her as a leading actress (because she *can* carry a movie). But she can’t *open* films (not anymore). And that is how a leading actress is defined.

  • Guest

    What is Kristen’s supposed lost niche? YA romance?

  • Anna

    No. They are likely to distribute it. But they can also pass it forward to one of their smaller divisions or sell it if they think it for the best.

    Yeah, I see how you are not giving a f**ck. By trying to convince me that it’s nothing. In this hours long convo. That’s how much you *don’t* care. Sure, Felicia.
    Are you really this dense? Matt guy is a person, 20th Century Fox is a company. Their pages are updated differently.

  • Anna

    Thanks for laughs! I’m glad you’re still alive, btw.

    Her niche was the kind of roles Rooney Mara is now getting in her art house films.

  • csm123

    Fox never does that. Fox2000 and Fox Searchlight independently finance and distribute their own movies.

    Until you find me evidence that IMDB update is a high priority for Fox2000 I’ll stay being a more rational person and go with what is obvious. If Fox2000 didn’t care about Underwater they wouldn’t be paying $65 million for it. For fucks sake, $65 million is more money than they spend on Deadpool and Joy. This isn’t a joke.

  • Anna

    Again, I said that *to me* that was just one small sign, one in group of many other much bigger signs.
    If you are going to talk about my posts, at least try to understand them. If you are capable of doing that.

  • csm123

    Underwater may turn out to be the biggest flop in the history of motion pictures but that’s not because Fox isn’t all in on this project. $60-70 million is realistically the most money an original movie can hope for in the current studio system. There are $100 million exceptions like The Revenant and The Passengers but even guys like Denzel Washington don’t get bigger budgets. If the budget information is accurate then Fox is all in. Period. Full Stop.

  • Anna

    There’s always that option to sell.
    Who knows, we’ll see. All I’m saying is that I’m not 100% sure they will distribute it (I hope they will).

    Until you explain to me why a movie that is about to start filming doesn’t have at least a tentative release year when same studio has films scheduled 3 or 4 years in advance, I’ll stay being more open person to possible quite negative scenario in case of this movie.
    You just stick to those $65M like there weren’t cases of studios spending $100M+ on films even they knew they were sure duds ( happened last year, you don’t have to look too far back).

  • csm123

    It doesn’t have a tentative release year because studios don’t give movies a tentative release year. Studios typically give their movies a specific release date but that can happen 6 months before a movie has started filming or even 6 months after it has finished filming. Any IMDB pro member can add a tentative release year at any stage so if you are an IMDB member you can add 2018 as the release year given that it is filming in 2017.

  • Anna

    Nolan gets more than $65M. Spielberg, too. Cameron, as well. Scorsese, if/when he asks. And so on and on. Yes, they are all top directors but original films *can* get more than those $65M from a studio.
    Those $65M million for Underwater are too much (with this cast, director and crew). And there are no evidence what so ever that Fox is in 100% (why not cast bigger names in it?). Period. Full. Stop.

  • csm123

    So why is Fox financing this movie ? You don’t think they are doing this to make a profit so what is your conspiracy theory ?

  • Anna

    Oh ffs, if a movie is filmed in the first half of this year it’s reasonable to expect it will be released sometime next year. And you’ll see that studios usually have it listed that way. Don’t play dumb on me now.
    And no, studios don’t give their movies specific dates right away. Just look at their 2019 or 2020 releases. Those films have a year but not a month and a day. It’s always just the year and then the exact date is announced when they have schedules of other studios’ releases so that they can find the right time slot.

  • csm123

    No, studios have given specific dates for a lot of movies going forward to 2020 and even beyond.

    For example, here is Fox’s slate -> http://www.boxofficemojo.com/studio/chart/?view2=upcoming&view=company&studio=fox.htm

    More her -> http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=bydate&release=theatrical&yr=2019&p=.htm

    Check the specific dates in 2020 and beyond category.

  • Anna

    Conspiracy? There’s no conspiracy. Just inner studio games and decisions that aren’t *always* made based on common sense. Because, if they were quite a few movies, good and bad ones, wouldn’t even exist today.

  • BrendaStar

    Your welcome, Stephanie.

  • csm123

    If you think they are not making a $65 million movie to make profit then you obviously believe in a conspiracy. What is it ? I have work to do but I will come back in a few hours to check.

  • Anna

    Sure but that’s just part of their slate.
    They have films scheduled for 2023 without exact date, for example. 2022. 2021. 2020. 2019. 2018 even.
    .

  • Anna

    Obviously? Nope. Conspiracy is something *you* are insisting on.
    Why? IDK. Why did they make Fantastic Four when original reactions to that script were bad? And yet they still went on with it and they made it. Without a cast that could sell it even if it’s bad in the same way Suicide Squad sold that film (together with smart promo) even after it was panned by critics. Like I said, not all decision are made based on common sense.
    And with that, I’m done. Regardless of your opinion about my answer.

  • Guest

    Kristen has never had a specific niche. Her niche is that she has always moved between quirky, offbeat indies and bigger budget movies.

  • Anna

    Oh, but she did. There was a time when, if someone was looking for an actress to play a restless troubled character of a young girl/woman who has a lot going on on the inside but is showing very little on the surface, Kristen’s name was very first to come up in all conversations about it. She’s not the first choice for those roles any more. Those are the characters she still very much prefers but the best roles of that kind are now always Rooney’s.

  • BrendaStar

    PS is up to 81% now on RT.

  • Guest

    But I thought Kristen needs to stop playing the same role and must show more range? And maybe you haven’t seen all of Kristen’s movies, but that type of internal emoting is still very much her trademark, from PS to CS to Equals to Still Alice to CW and, I’m willing to bet, to Lizzie and Underwater.

  • Anna

    Reading comprehension, Guest.
    It wasn’t *me* who mentioned that niche thing first, csm was. I only said she had it in the past.
    Reading comprehension x2, Guest.
    I said she still obviously prefers that kind of roles to all others (but she’s not getting the best of that type anymore). And Lizzie and Underwater aren’t exception (which is why I’m constantly repeating that she needs to leave her comfort zone from time to time).
    So, what’s the point of your post?

  • BrendaStar

    Not everyone follows Kristen like us_either that or bad editing. I do like what he said though. The critic for the Chicago Sun Times wrote that Kristen won a Cesar Award for PS and deserves an Oscar! “Stewart rises to the next level with her startlingly excellent work in “Personal Shopper.” She is in command of her character, sometimes almost casually so, keeping us focused on every little bit of physical business, every interesting choice of line readings, every moment of vulnerability that begins to bleed through the self-protective exterior. Stewart was American actress to win the Cesar (essentially the French Oscar) for her work here, and she deserves an Oscar nomination as well.” http://chicago.suntimes.com/entertainment/kristen-stewart-goes-far-beyond-bella-in-personal-shopper/

  • Anna

    That’s lazy journalism, IMO.
    Where was that critic back in 2015 when Kristen won her Cesar and then all those critics’ awards? I mean, he’s not a fan so it’s normal that he’s not following Kristen as closely as we are but he *is* a film critic so knowing stuff like that should be part of his job, it’s like a mandatory knowledge. Plus, there’s this thing called Google if he wasn’t certain. Sigh.
    It’s a real pity when things like that prevent you from enjoying otherwise positive article.

  • BrendaStar

    He is a top ctitic on RT so that makes it worse. He is a fan now because he also wrote he was enthralled but every moment of PS even though he can’t exp,ain everything he saw.

  • Anna

    Sigh.
    Someone should tell him so that he could fix that mistake in the article.

  • BrendaStar

    This critic from The Washington Post loved Olivier Assayas’ work so I thought of Eme. ” Assayas has always worked at a consistently high level of excellence, but “Personal Shopper” is his most vital film in years, at times recalling the verve of his 1996 breakthrough “Irma Vep” (whose star, Maggie Cheung, Stewart evokes whenever she gets on a motorcycle). But you don’t need to be familiar with Assayas’s previous work to enjoy “Personal Shopper.” It works in two realms: as an engrossing ghost story and a drama that addresses profound matters of life and death.” It sounds familiar so this review may have already been posted here.https://www.washingtonpost.com/goingoutguide/movies/kristen-stewart-shines-in-supernatural-thriller-personal-shopper/2017/03/16/1e1f72d4-0993-11e7-b77c-0047d15a24e0_story.html?utm_term=.755d6fdc2a69

  • BrendaStar

    Max Theriot, Kristen’s friend since she was probably about 12 from CatchThat Kid will also be in NO because he is in a tv pilot filmimg there. She named her cat Jella/Max after him.

  • csm123

    Ok, so now we are done with Metacritic and we are comparing Rotten Tomatoes ? Fine. 57% and 60% isn’t bad for a Sci-Fi genre movie. That’s a decent debut as far as these things go. Fox can easily promote a 60%+ movie if that’s where Underwater ends up at.

    Let us talk about Best Picture winner Moonlight. How does it have a better cast than Underwater ? Half of the main cast had never acted before. None of the other actors, including Naomi Harris, could be considered A-list at the time they were cast in the movie. Underwater has the better cast hands down. Script ? Moonlight’s script is adapted from a play that was never staged. It is a great script only in hindsight.

    Now let us go back to Kristen. You think Kristen needs to do supporting roles in ensemble. If she does that then that becomes her niche. She shows up for 15 minutes in a movie, gets paid scale or something a little better and when the time comes to promote the movie she gets to promote the movie as much as the main cast because gets what ? Every woman under 30 knows who Kristen Stewart is and she gets the publicity that very actresses can. Kristen is 27 and either she shows her mettle now or yield the ground to younger and hungrier actresses. Maybe Kristen’s future is to be a supporting actress but at least she needs to give leading a chance. Just because you’ve given up on Kristen because she turned out to be gay doesn’t mean she has to accept it. Fuck I am glad that Kristen is not accepting it and she is willing to prove her mettle.

  • BrendaStar

    From New Statesman re PS: “Whether anything remains in the soul of someone whose life is built around the ephemeral and the superficial is a point the picture leaves moot. The irony is that Stewart herself is commandingly deep. Give her a scene of plain exposition and she renders it natural with her halting voice and twitchy gestures. Ask her to evoke isolation, as she does in the final shot, and she will stare down the lens with all the desolate panic of the last woman on Earth.”

    “Stewart is one of those American stars, like Jane Fonda in Godard’s Tout va bien or Jack Nicholson in Antonioni’s The Passenger, who have entrusted their persona to a European director and reaped the rewards. Assayas has taken one of the most scrutinised, sought-after actors of the modern age and demoted her, twice, from queen to pawn. Moving her to the outskirts of the board, he offers us a saner view on the madness and malaise of a star’s everyday life.”

  • Anna

    Oh, that’s a good catch, Brenda.
    I hope they’ll have an opportunity to spend some time together then.

  • csm123

    What The Flick Review.

  • Anna

    Excuse me?! Ali and Naomi are known as good actors. Trained and highly skilled actors. They aren’t stars but they are bloody good actors and they proved their chops. That story is great because it is at the same time very personal (to both director and the guy who wrote the book/play) and strikingly universal. It received very positive reactions even when making that movie was closer to a dream than reality. Directing in Moonlight is masterful (together with editing and cinematography).
    And Moonlight was made for $1.5M and it was never meant to be a mainstream film. Hell, they weren’t even thinking about Oscar while they were making it. Moonlight is on the very opposite side of spectrum compared to Underwater. So, whatever you are trying to prove by putting that movie in the middle of this isn’t working because it can’t work, it makes no sense what so ever.
    Eubank *never* showed the level of promise Bary did even in his short films. Eubank doesn’t belong to the same directing universe as Bary. And you wanting it to be different won’t change that. Period.

    I THINK YOU NEED TO LEARN HOW TO READ ONCE FOR ALL!

    I think Kristen needs to pick better projects than Lizzie, JT LeRoy and Underwater are. I think, as long as project is good, leading or supporting role is not as important (of course I prefer when she has more screen time). ITW did far more for her career than, IDK, Cake Eaters. Same thing will probably happen with CW (compared to CS, for example). I think, if she is going to do a mainstream project (especially one that needs to earn $195M to be a success), it’s better if she’s not carrying it alone on her shoulders (at least not until she gets her BO mojo back, if that ever happens) so having an A-list co-star would be a smart move.

    I think you need to stop putting your own words in my mouth and your own thought in my head and your own assumptions in my posts.

    So that little rant you just had about what Kristen needs to do re lead vs. supporting roles is on you, not on me (BTW, you are being a big hypocrite one more time: you are allowed to say what she *needs* to do but when someone else does it, that person is crazy and not a fan).
    And I said it all long before you did (but my opinion is far more layered).

    And now I’m really freaking done with you.

    .

  • csm123

    I am doing a Moonlight comparison for a reason. It isn’t a movie that should have anywhere close to the success it had if you base it on the director ,the cast and the script. Movies like Billy Lynn, Silence and Live By Night shouldn’t be the kind of failures they were based on the same parameters. Maybe I should be comparing Underwater to more mainstream, genre-y fare but given the level of Oscar-thirst you and some Kristen’s fans have, they seemed like a good reference point. Maybe Deadpool and Tim Miller is a better comparison. This was a debut film by Miller, almost the same budget and the same studio. Yes, it is based on a known property but it clearly out-performed the value of the property. The kind of producer, director, script combo that Underwater has is all too common in the studio system. Hell, no one even thought Ryan Reynolds was a viable leading man in Hollywood until they greenlit the movie. Maybe Kristen will get lucky too. She has more goodwill than Reynolds, nevermind the butthurt Twihard moms who will forever stay pissed at her for cheating on Edward Cullen. Kristen has been written off so many times by the Twihards like you that I don’t even consider it a legitimate opinion anymore. You hold two diametrically opposite position

    a.) Kristen should only lead/co-lead movies that are guaranteed to be successful

    b.) Kristen is not good enough (because of cheating, gay, bad actress) to lead/co-lead potentially successful productions.

    I have no idea how you reconcile these two things except by using these two positions to beat up on her as you’ve been doing all day today.

  • Anna

    You are comparing Oscar race to a case where a movie “just” needs to secure a BO success. You are either too dense to realize how different those two things are and that, by using Moonlight as an example, you are going nowhere or you do know that but my opinion is so deep under your skin that you are willing to look dense if it will prove your “point”. Either way, grow up.
    Deadpool doesn’t work either. And Kristen most definitely doesn’t have more good will than Reynolds when it comes to general audience. No way! Have you checked his twitter? Even thinking that Kristen is above him when it comes to her public image…LMAO. She may be more respected as an actress by critics but wide audience doesn’t give a s**t about that, sadly.
    Relying on luck is something that only weak and unprepared do.
    I was *never* a Twihard. But thanks for another laugh.
    And thank you for showing us your real face (by using “Twihards”, *you* Oscar hungry fans, ect.). I must tell you, though, it ain’t pretty.

    a) There are no guarantees but there’s something that’s called minimizing the risk. Can you understand that concept? Try at least, it’s not that hard.
    b) Good enough in the eyes of general public? No, she isn’t. That’s not fair but it’s her reality.

    You should improve your deductive skills. Your grasp of gray areas, different perspectives and layers is extremely poor.

    Also:
    1) YOU NEED TO LEARN HOW TO READ

    2) https://33.media.tumblr.com/2c7e64a30c94c7e065d8d0aa6fff50f7/tumblr_nv5zsqIfJE1qhozbxo1_400.gif

    Bye!!!

  • Guest

    To have a discussion on the type of niche you think she had and now doesn’t when she so clearly does? Go watch Cafe Society. Maybe it will cheer you up a bit.

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    You can’t have a discussion with someone who, on purpose or not, keeps misunderstanding your posts.
    Um. Sorry, but bittersweet stuff aren’t exactly good cheering up material in general. And I don’t need any cheering up to begin with.
    But It’s interesting you brought it up. Maybe you are the one who needs to follow your own advice?
    (I don’t wanna know.)

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    Fan pic from NOLA. I guess CJ will be her PA this time, too.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7IHphKXQAAHfvU.jpg

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    Sadly, that definitely not the only time Kristen had badly fitted Chanel dress on.
    And Kristen herself wore that dress for a photoshoot so it’s not like no one wore it before.

    “Maureen also borrows a silver sequinned Chanel dress. As Stewart has fronted several Chanel campaigns, it was no surprise to see the fashion house popping up in her movie – though Doering says there was no contractual obligation involved. ‘We know the team at Chanel well, but if we didn’t find what we wanted, we had no pressure,’ he says. ‘I asked the girls there, ‘Do you have something with sequins?’ and they said ‘Oh we have this old dress that no one has worn before.’ And I saw it and I thought “Oh, this is it.” ‘ It may be the only time you’ll see Stewart in a Chanel dress that doesn’t fit like a glove: ‘Of course we didn’t fit it onto Kristen, because it is not supposed to be her own dress. She feels uncomfortable in the dress, it’s not hers – but she likes it because it’s not correct for her to wear it.’ “

  • Anna

    Working with her was easy, explains Doering: “Kristen knows her stuff. She loved Chanel before she was famous. For her it was easy to jump from the jeans to the dress, no trouble.”

    He clearly felt that they had a meeting of minds. “Often actresses they have no taste!” he laughs. “So it’s good to actually have a conversation with someone who knows.”

  • Anna

    That big UK critic.

  • Anna

    Brenda posted part of this review bellow. Here’s the whole thing.

    https://twitter.com/NewStatesman/status/842748106445746176

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  • Eme

    He’s always there. You’d think he would have something else in his life. Oh well. Try not to be judgey, Eme!

  • Eme

    Happy St. Patrick’s Day everyone. Today’s the day! Going to see PS! Fun times, people! Will report back later!

  • Anna

    Oh! Enjoy it!
    And wear green ;P

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    PS costumes guy. He talks about Kristen and what it’s like working with her, what she does when she has time off, when she goes out, when she’s on her way to a movie set, ect.

    https://twitter.com/gaystarnews/status/842790143551574022

  • Anna
  • Debi Lewis

    I have been waiting for months and months to see this movie. The date was supposed to be in March and yet none of the theaters in Louisiana playing it yet! I can’t wait to see it and I am glad she is in it throughout the whole movie. I love her. I think she is a great actress and I love that she is down to earth.

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  • Guest

    It’s nice to see that other LGBT people in the industry are proud of her for being open about her sexuality.

  • Anna

    It would be weird if they weren’t.
    Although, some will try to use that fact for their own gain.
    And other will make a habit of posting click bait titles for articles that are using 1000 words to say something that normal people usually can perfectly put in only few words. Everything for clicks and traffic on their sites.

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  • Stephanie

    The movie is very good. KS is beautiful in the movie as well as in real life. I hope you can see it soon. Good luck. 🙂

  • Guest

    He’s basically her personal assistant when he’s with her on shoots. And likely gets paid. Like that is his job.

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  • Eme

    Yes, I know. Hence, my reminder to myself not to be *judgey*.

  • Eme

    Hi guys! Just back from seeing PS – finally!! I loved it, my hubs liked it and was very impressed with the movie. It requires another viewing for me because there are so many intricate, little things that one misses in the first viewing. The last line is said in such a way that both my hubs and I still aren’t quite sure what exactly was said – and the meaning – well, it’s all up to us to interpret it and the whole film itself. I understand what the critics are saying when they state that Kristen’s performance is *mesmerizing* and *holds* you as she takes you on her journey. Its a haunting, Oscar worthy performance, imo. And Olivier, in several places, I think, just plays with the audience with his genre bending, no holds barred direction. I can’t wait for the next collaboration because this one was magnificent. I actually think I like it better than CoSM. And that’s saying something!

  • Anna

    If you are in any of these cities you’ll get to see PS this weekend:

    https://twitter.com/Mel452/status/842881949735694336

  • Anna

    Glad you liked it!!!

    How many people was in your theater? Was it full? What are their reactions?

    (Re: that second – and third – viewing, I know some people actually took notes about seemingly small irrelevant details/things she does in some scenes because later, when you think of them, they are actually quite telling.)

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    It was the first showing of the day (noonish) so there were just a handful of us diehard movie buffs (less than 15). And, it’s St. Patrick’s Day and that is a big deal in SF (so lots of people in bars and getting drunk with green beer in the middle of the day!). I expect that the numbers will increase for the later shows and also Sat & Sun without the booze attraction.
    And, no one left the theater. You could hear a pin drop in the beginning and during the intense scenes. There was some laughter (we laughed) in some parts. It seemed that all of us there enjoyed the film.
    I’m gong to try and see it again in a few days – want to give some time to let the movie settle in me. Notes – man, I don’t know how they could have taken notes during the movie – you have to pay really close attention!

  • Eme

    Yes, America, go watch it!!!

  • Anna
  • nonA

    thanks for posting your impressions….this one seems to building more interest & intrigue as critics & moviegoers see it! a long way from cannes and the initial boos (which really weren’t ever about quality although the media portrayed it that way back then)

  • Eme

    Yeah, can’t see the reason for the boos. But I’ve heard that being booed at Cannes is sort of a badge of honor!

  • Anna

    Gotcha.

    Do as Kristen does: you watch the movie while your hand is writing (remember that “word blurt” game she played on Fallon, during AU promo when she showed us she can write not looking at what she’s writing).

    http://img2-1.timeinc.net/people/i/2015/news/150824/fallon-stewart-1024.jpg

  • Eme

    I have never been able to do that! But there’s always a first time!! There’s a lot of things Kristen does that I wish I could do lol!!! And, people. There wasn’t a lot of photoshop in that recent Mario T. pic of her backside – js.

  • Anna

    Try. Maybe that’s your secret talent you never realized you have ;P

    (Talking about hat particular photo of her backside, it has that other fandom fuming ever since the day it came out. They are literally doing everything they can to prove to people it’s fake. Talk about wasting your time on someone you can’t stand.)

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    Wasted efforts. Totally. Because, her lovely backside is front and center in PS (along with other lovely assets) AND her lovely backside was in full view at the NY premiere in that backside revealing gorgeous Chanel dress so that other fandom can “eat my grits”! No photoshop there, people!!
    But it makes me so happy when Kristen proves them wrong by just existing!!

  • Anna

    Good to know!

  • Eme

    Oh dear. I hope I didn’t reveal too much. Critics have talked about a particular scene that I was referring to when I made my comments so I don’t think I revealed anything new. Oh well. Apologies to those that have not seen the film.

  • Anna

    You definitely didn’t *reveal* more than Daily Mail did. You’re good!

  • Eme

    UGH!!! Those f**king bastards!! I hope karma gets them in the end. And they so misrepresented that scene. Assholes!!

  • Stephanie

    I also like it better than COSM.
    Eme, there’s one scene Maureen step into the boat. Do you know what did she try to do? There are few scenes I didn’t get the point across. I will go see it again. The last line was said “Is it you or it’s just me”. I am glad you like it. Thank you for the report

  • Anna

    Of course they did. Because Kristen has to be (painted as) this girl with highly ~problematic behavior/values. That’s what general public was conditioned to think about her ever since she became famous so that is what sells the best (article like that one are getting far more clicks than those that are saying something positive about her).

  • Eme

    No, there were so many scenes (that’s one of them) that have so many things going on at the same time, it’s mind boggling when you try to think about it all after seeing the film. Yeah, I need to go see it again (good for BO numbers if people return to see it just to see what they missed the first time, right?)! Thanks for the last line. Still don’t know what it all means lol!!

  • Stephanie

    Wish Anna see it and tell us her point of view. She has an excellent analysis.
    Anna help!!!

  • Eme

    Here’s the thing that I noticed, though. The very next day they posted a very glowing, positive article on her look at the NY PS premiere. And my first thought was that they were playing nice because they so f**ked up with the previous article. I mean, the tone was so positive and so unlike them. Maybe I’m wrong (probably) but I hope they got some kind of a slap for that gross misrepresentation. I mean, it was really, really unethical and bordered on being actionable legally, imo.

  • Anna

    It means she’s making that very first tiny step towards recovery, IMO (based on all these articles I’ve read). She’s actually starting to see that situation/state she’s in from outsider’s perspective while before she was so so so deep inside of her head swamped with all those questions. It’s like first sign that maybe there can be a new beginning for her. IDK, I’m probably wrong but that’s the idea I’m currently entertained with.

  • Eme

    That definitely is the consensus from most of the articles. I do need to see it again because I’m just not sure how I feel about the ending or whether I agree with what others have written about the ending. Even Olivier said in an interview that he thought she had come to some resolution – I blame him for my not quite agreeing with him. Serves him right for writing such ambiguity in his script! Ha!

  • Anna

    Maybe that one was written by a different journalist?
    Plus, playing it hot and cold is their, tabloids’, typical tactic (people get sick of only negative or only positive stuff after some time).

    I sure hope they got few calls from lawyers/distributor/whoever because of that mess but, ultimately, it doesn’t matter because those pics are out there now with wrong interpretation.

  • Anna

    During one of those Q&As, Kristen apparently said she agrees with that Vulture’s article about the meaning of that ending.

  • Anna

    Kristen’s Underwater stunt double just went through her own hair transformation few hours ago.

    @kphelan13
    Done and done! 👩😁! #shorthairdontcare #baldisthenewhair #baldisbeautiful

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BRv9paBBMHG/

  • Eme

    Yeah, maybe different *journalist* (it’s really difficult to call them that!) wrote the article. Really they are the definitely the bottom feeders of society!
    And, yes, the pictures are out there. Nothing we can do about that except correct the interpretation when it comes up in our circle (although no one reads that crap in my circle)!

  • Anna

    A podcast about Kristen (about the positive and not so positive stuff in her career).

    https://twitter.com/misterpatches/status/842783315648266242

  • Eme

    Sorry, can’t remember – did they agree with the first step to recovery interpretation? If they did then both Olivier and Kristen are on the same page regarding the ending.

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    Whoa!!

  • Anna

    I haven’t read that article because of spoilers so I can’t really tell you. But she answered someone’s question about film’s ending and she said she agrees with the way it was interpreted in said article.

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    She has really great cheekbones.

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    She looks good!!

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    Ok, I’ll look for the article (you probably posted it somewhere here lol!) – I do remember starting to read an article and stopped because of spoilers but I don’t know if it was the Vulture one.

  • Eme

    I started to listen and realized one of them is David E. – they had some good points about Kristen’s career. And, I agree that Snow White was not her best. But I also think every performance and role she has done has led her to the positive place she is in right now with critical acclaim.

  • Anna

    That’s the one.

  • Eme

    Thanks. I’ll go find it now.

  • BrendaStar

    Glad you & your husband enjoyed the film so much. How exciting to read that Kristen’s performance is Oscar worthy.

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    Assayas said: ‘I think I was the right person at the right moment. I didn’t invent her. Everything she does is her own hard work. I am just the person who happened to give her the space to express it because it’s all a matter of control.

    ‘When you are working in a Hollywood framework, it is all about control and there is very little room for actors. It’s all about supervision.

    ‘In independent European filmmaking tradition it is the opposite. Actors have a lot more space. I did with Kristen what I have done with all the actors I have worked with – give her space. But for her it was completely new.’

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    The highly engaging 62-year-old went on to say: ‘I was also the one person who told her: ‘It’s ok to be yourself’. It is extremely basic but I think it was useful for her.

    ‘All of a sudden it gave her confidence. I was the one who helped her with that but it is also to the credit of Juliette Binoche.

    ‘When we made Sils Maria together, part of the story was that Kristen wanted to work with Juliette because she admired her. She admired her freedom, the way she has been able to move between independent filmmaking and more mainstream filmmaking, protecting her freedom.

    ‘That was something Kristen was interested in, and the way Juliette improvises and constantly reinvents her scenes is something that Kristen used as a model.’

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    Assayas revealed: ‘When we started making Sils Maria, I had seen her in movies, I had loved her, I had met her a few times. I liked the person and thought she had very big potential but I didn’t realise how unique she was.

    ‘What made me realise how unique she was is how she uses her body on screen. The preciseness of the consciousness she has of the space where she is acting and where the camera is. What lense it is and what she can do to position herself.

    ‘It is very silly but in one scene in Sils Maria all she had to do was open a curtain but the way she opened the curtain I could not believe my eyes.’

    There are plenty of ‘curtain opening’ moments for Stewart in Personal Shopper.

  • Eme

    Thank you, Brenda. That being said, I would be very surprised if the Academy even considered her because it’s not the kind of performance that gets noticed by them. But, you know me, always on the Hope Train for Kristen! And the fact that she is getting rave reviews from almost every critic – she’s already won as far as I’m concerned.

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    It’s not about her performance as much as it is about the type of film PS is – it’s not “Academy friendly”.

  • Eme

    True, very true. But I always go back to Moonlight. Just saying.

  • Anna

    Yes but Moonlight wasn’t genre filmmaking.
    Time will tell.

  • Eme

    But I don’t think PS is either. Olivier took aspects of the horror genre and turned it upside down. To me, the film is more psychological drama with some horror in service of the psychological. It sort of reminded me of Black Swan which also defied categorization when it came out. That’s my take of it anyway for what it’s worth.

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    Black Swan is good example, yes.
    We’ll see.

  • MCR

    The way I saw it, she had come to a resolution and was ready to break out of the shell she’d created for herself (she’s leaving Paris and going to join her boyfriend, etc) but the film ends with her sort of looking back. It’s not clear at that point whether she’ll continue to move on or get sucked back in. Yes, much ambiguity.

  • Eme

    Yes, I agree about the uncertainty of her next step. The resolution, imo, is her acceptance of Lewis as being with her, as well as, acceptance of the way she is grieving. It will be interesting what I think when I see it again.

  • Anna

    Maybe she’s going to end up with parts of both worlds. Meaning, yes she’s moving on with her life and all that (or, at least, she’s really trying to) but she’s also keeping part of her “old” life with her (which is that “presence” of her brother) but in different capacity (being a medium is part of her, it’s how she deals with it that has to change).
    Again, this is just me rambling based on things I’ve read (will probably think differently after I actually get to see the movie).

  • Eme

    Yes, I ‘ll be interested to know your take on the film when you see it. It definitely keeps you engaged long after you’ve seen it!

  • Anna

    Italian promo for PS is starting (release scheduled for April 13th).

    https://twitter.com/AcademyTWO/status/843107921881956353

  • MCR

    That does make sense.

  • MCR

    So glad you got to see it. Kristen really was amazing in it, and I liked her performance here better than in Clouds. I can see that not everybody would love the movie, or at least the interpret-it-yourself aspect, but I think this was Kristen’s best work yet.

  • Eme

    I absolutely agree. I got so lost in her performance that I actually forgot it was Kristen on the screen. She became Maureen, a twin haunted by her loss and totally lost in the world. It was a magnificent performance.

  • MCR

    I guess a lot depends on how you interpret her “contact” with Lewis. If it’s a delusion, moving away from it is healthier. If it’s real, then it’s a good thing to accept as part of her life. Then again, it might not be one or the other; her contact with Lewis might be reaching for a part of herself, if you see what I mean. The movie doesn’t answer these questions for us, naturally, so we can’t assume the conclusion is a happy ending or not.

  • Eme

    Yes! And it’s that non-answer that drives people who need that kind of resolution in films crazy. And, I never thought of a happy ending. I just wanted her to be OK, lol!

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  • BrendaStar

    The highest praise for Kristen. I wish I could publish Louis Chilton’s remarks in every movie publication in the USA.
    ” A huge part of the reason it all works so well is the furiously good performance from Stewart in the lead role. Unifying all the different strands of genre and style is the film’s underlying function as a character study, and Maureen is a character of forceful substance. Stewart employs an incredible range of emotion, all given visceral, uniquely characterised energy. There is an extended sequence wherein all the action revolves around a text message conversation. Assayas’ script and direction does a great job at generating tension but it is Stewart’s superlative acting that makes this essentially silent stretch of film an absolutely compelling watch. The director has been effusive in his praise of the former Twilight darling, and between this and Clouds of Sils Maria he has twice drawn from her work of the highest calibre.”

  • BrendaStar

    I will have to check that scene out:-)

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    My heart just skipped a beat!

    “As far as what’s next creatively, Assayas says he’s busy writing and has a few things up in the air, but hopes to do something again with Stewart who he describes as ‘someone I’ve made a deep personal connection with.’ At the time of our interview, Assayas had just received a text from Binoche half-jokingly probing about their next engagement.”

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    I think it will be several years before another Olivier/Kristen collaboration (if it’s with Juliette, all the better), unless he has a brainstorm tomorrow His next film might finally be Idol’s Eye. And it was mentioned in a recent interview that he’s writing a French film. Maybe Juliette will be in that. I think it will be good for them to get some space – Kristen once said they each have other stories to tell – before a creative reunion.

  • Anna

    I know *all* that.
    But my heart still skipped a beat. Sigh.

  • Anna

    Underwater director on his instagram:

    @superswift
    Been working on this one for almost 2 years now! Have been so fortunate with incredible talent across the board! As Jodorowsky put it… we have an amazing team of spiritual warriors! Now it’s time for us to put down our hammers and pick up our cameras! Down down down into the deep dark we go…

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BRykmtHj8t5/

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  • Eme

    My heart always skips a beat whenever the names Olivier, Kristen and Juliette are mentioned in one sentence. Even when it’s just Olivier and Kristen. Js.

  • gillian kemp

    I still don’t understand what happened to Idol’s Eye. Why stop the movie the day before the movie starts?

  • Anna

    Talking about Underwater…that actress who is playing the second biggest role in the movie is in this new TV show Iron Fist: it was panned once, then panned for the second time and is currently being panned third time (it premiered few days ago) by *everyone* (every single critic and, based on reactions I saw, by pretty much every person who saw at least one part of it) and, what’s even worse – acting in it is so so so bad (including hers).
    So not only that Kristen is the only name people will recognize in that cast but she’s also pretty much the only good actor among them. Combine that with everything else that’s bad and Underwater is in deep s**t.

  • Anna

    First Underwater crew member whose previous work is actually — solid.

    https://twitter.com/Mel452/status/843230426403561473

  • Anna

    NFS: You’re speaking to me from a set in Texas right now. What are you working on? What can we expect next from you?

    Bazelli: Yes, I’m doing another film here. It has taken me underwater again. It’s about water. It is also emotional and not fully technical. I still have some obligations not to say too much about it, because the cast is not set and all that, but it’s a very interesting film that takes place underwater.

  • BrendaStar

    Perhaps, all is not lost yet! I read one paragraph of the first article I found on IMdbPro re Iron Fist. It stated that the show was not terrible, but dull and disappointing compared to other Netflix shows. It said Jessica Henwick was one of 2 standouts. Also it said those 2 actresses will be welcomed back on Defenders, another show. CineLinx was the source site. I cannot verify any of that, but I am hopeful.

  • BrendaStar

    It did indicate the show was low rated, so I can understand why you would be concerned. (Also I read more than one paragraph of that CineLinx review.)

  • BrendaStar

    Not Guest, but I found some info from this Tumblr which includes remarks by Assayas at the end. http://pattinson360.tumblr.com/post/151574957112/the-long-messy-saga-of-idols-eye-the-real-life/embed

  • BrendaStar

    Thanks, Anna, that is wonderful. news This is part of his bio on ImdbPro.
    “BORN INHerceg Novi, Montenegro, YugoslaviaBIOGRAPHYCinematographer Bojan Bazelli, ASC is a master image maker working at the forefront of today’s most high profile, visually progressive films.Bazelli most recently wrapped principal photography on director Gore Verbinski’s Cure for Wellness, …..” He had a solid education too in cinematography in Czechosklovakia.

  • Guest

    The financier was a wreck. He had another movie fall apart while it was filming. Hopefully he never makes another movie again. His reputation should be ruined by now.

  • nonA

    thank you for the info. i think the quote from him that “It is also emotional and not fully technical” is a hint at why kristen chose the project. plus the water fixation that she’s had recently 🙂

  • BrendaStar

    Some of the pictures from Cure for Wellness in the article are really great. So I guess this means that we should have spectacular visuals in Underwater. I am impressed and excited.

  • Toooten

    Hi guys 🙂

    And don’t get me started on that show – wow it’s bad(ish)

    — or it’s pinned down to one single actor – the guy playing Danny Rand/The Iron Fist, Finn Jones. What a miscast!

    He ruins the whole show single-handedly, he’s NOT believable as a bad a** warrior monk – not even close – whereas the actor playing Ward Meachum (Tom Pelphery) who also played Kurt Bunker in Banshee, would’ve been a thousand times better choice. He actually looks like a hard trained bad a** warrior monk.

    – the rest of the cast is doing a decent job, considering the material they have to work with, and Jessica Henwick is doing a good job imo. I don’t think she’s a bad choice for “Underwater”

  • Toooten

    I’m actually surprised it have a 8,3 score on IMDb – it’s too much imo. 5,5 – 6,0 would be more accurate I think.

  • Toooten

    I can verify the CineLinx review – it is pretty much exactly my own opinion on the show and the characters.

  • BrendaStar

    Thanks. That is good to know. It does sound like an awful show, but it still can have some good actors like Jessica.

  • BrendaStar

    Good points. Kristen picks projects that are meaningful to her, and I usually learn a lot from her.

  • BrendaStar

    In case anyone missed it, this is another article with high praise for Kristen. https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/mar/16/personal-shopper-review-kristen-stewart-olivier-assayas

  • Anna

    Thanks for that opinion, Toooten 🙂

  • Anna

    Super-hero genre has rabid following and some of them can get organized to lower or increase IMDb scores of certain TV shows/movies (when many people gives 1* or 10* just because, you get rigged scores).
    IDK if that’s the case with Iron Fist but it might be.

  • Anna

    Just wanted to post that 🙂
    Thanks, Brenda!

    I think that’s second (or 3rd) review posted by Guardian (this one being from The Observer section of that site).

  • Toooten

    Exactly, and of course Rosario Dawson is good too, and the third actress is Madam Gao (Wai Ching Ho) who’s also good, and as far as I could figure out, all three will be on the Defenders as well – thank god they might save that show by themselves.

  • Toooten

    Yeah I know that, and the fanboys are already allover the place with their praise of the show. Luckily more down to eath based people also come with their reviews and it isn’t pretty. I agree with the non-fanboy crowd. 🙂

  • Toooten

    You’re welcome. 🙂

  • BrendaStar

    PS&Kristen are getting lots of attention.

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  • nonA

    yes, me too, she always adds the emotional layer that makes it more meaningful.

    i’m also interested to see if there are additional cast members. i remember that when still alice was trying to get financing, the indie producers said they were asked ‘who is playing the husband?’ even though they had a near-legendary actress in julianne and an up-&-comer in kristen. so, a medium-to-large-sized studio movie without a second ‘star’ actor or actress is surely different.

    (it could be that the casting isn’t over yet. AU had uma thurman, then sharon stone lined up, and finally connie britton, after they actually started filming. not the same circumstances, but we never really know!)

  • Anna
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    Promo is over, things are slowing down. So it’s time to pay full attention to this:

    https://twitter.com/KSbdayproject/status/843488758154629121

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    Estimated numbers: $158,515 (35 theaters, PTA: $4,529), domestic total: 269,920.

    https://twitter.com/boxofficemojo/status/843491121363791874

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    Week Two

    Personal Shopper (IFC)

    $158,515 in 33 theaters (+29); PTA: $4,529; Cumulative: $269,920

    This Olivier Assayas film starring his current muse Kristen Stewart expanded to other major cities in its second weekend, with numbers just a little below their “Clouds of Sils Maria” partnership two years ago. That film made over $1.8 million; this could be a similar breakout.

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  • Eme

    I did not know his father was a director also! Wow.

  • Anna

    Where have you been all this time, woman?

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  • BrendaStar

    The praise for Kristen in PS continues to be amazing. From Irish Times. “The first American actress to win a César Award makes every gesture count. The sorrow and loneliness expressed deep down in her eyes during the moment when Lewis’s former lover explains that she has moved on is a delicate motion that harks back to Renée Jeanne Falconetti’s seminal 1928 
    turn as Joan of Arc.” http://www.irishtimes.com/culture/film/personal-shopper-review-kristen-stewart-refuses-to-give-up-the-ghost-1.3010056

  • Ella

    Good to see people in the know don’t believe her career is over.

  • Anna

    If you think The Wrap is relevant trade……………………………………………

    (BTW, Ella, your obsession with me is obvious. Stay well.)

  • Eme

    Lol, I know! I have no answer to that! He doesn’t talk about his father (at least not the interviews I’ve read) – only his mother. Oh well, now I know.

  • Eme

    I’m glad to read this positive critique because I read two Irish critics’ reviews and they were not impressed with the movie at all.

  • Toooten

    I know, I’m not American but I haven’t even heard of half of these people.

    This kind of photo-lists are usually more or less useless/pointless. It’s just click bait.

  • Toooten

    I’m with Anna on this one – it’s only click bait, nothing more. Don’t put too much into this.

  • Anna

    Yup!!!

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    Really good interview (this journalist did a bit of research which these days is rare.)

    https://twitter.com/theartsdesk/status/843760225714880513

  • Anna

    Having just seen another film she has on release, Certain Women, there is something in both those performances that’s tense, clenched, introverted. Do you think there’s a generational aspect to her acting style?

    No, I don’t think so. Like all great actors, Kristen is a reluctant actress. It’s really like she’s resisting being an actor. And basically, whatever performance she does, it’s about going beyond just being an actor, because she doesn’t like the position of the actor enjoying his job. She needs to question the position of the actor before doing anything. And she’s constantly struggling to overcome it. That’s what gives this tension and energy to whatever she does. And Brando is not a bad reference, in the sense that she has this rebellious dimension to her…

    And the way he became embarrassed by acting…

    Yeah. Yeah, she has that.

  • Anna

    You said when you were on set making Personal Shopper that “she’s challenging the scenes”. Was that in the ways that you’ve just described?

    The intensity that she brings to her acting is never burdensome. Some actors can bring something on the set that’s disruptive, but absolutely not, she’s the quietest person, sitting there, doing her thing. She doesn’t generate any kind of tension outside of the shot, but when the shot starts she inhabits it. The intensity she brings, the way she’s willing to go all the way, and eventually further, in any given shot is something that’s challenging for me as a writer and as a filmmaker. I’ve always said that once I give an actor a part, he kind of takes over. He knows more than I do about the part. And in that sense, I want to be the first spectator to whatever happens, and I want it to be different from whatever I’ve written in the screenplay. I’m looking to bring some different energy from whatever I’ve put down on paper. And Kristen ends up being the perfect embodiment of that, in the sense that whenever I give her any space, she engages very strongly, and I have to be on the same level. So there’s a mutual stimulation which creates a very specific energy, which basically ends up being this film.

  • Anna

    What was your biggest misconception from when you met Kristin Stewart on the first film? What have you found out from working with her?

    It’s not so much about misconceptions, I just did not know her. I liked her, I liked her a lot—I liked everything I had seen of her. I thought she had a very unique screen presence, she magnetises the camera. So that I was very conscious of, and I was right. But then in terms of her acting, her intelligence, the nuances of filmmaking, I did not expect anything like that. I also didn’t realise how half her work relies so much on body language. She has a way of using the body in a shot that is amazing, she’s like a dancer, or an animal or something. There is something incredibly graceful about her, and precise and clever, about the way she uses her body.

    Do you think it’s because of being a child actress, when they reach that point where they are adults and doing good work, that they become quite good because they’ve had all that training?

    I think they build an instinct. It becomes so natural to them that they have this incredible awareness of what is essential in the process of filmmaking. I have noticed that of course with other actors who started as children, they don’t have technique, they have instinct. What I’m saying is that technique and instinct have become one and the same thing.

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    Um, Olivier, while we are waiting for that third collaboration with Kristen can you, IDK, do your magic and recommend Kristen to directors that are working with Isabelle?

    “I love Isabelle [Huppert, star of Elle]. I really admire her, we’ve been friends forever, and I think she’s a genius. I think she’s amazing, and I think that film is one of her great works.”

  • Eme

    Excellent interview. He really did do some good research and, surprise, led to some interesting and new questions to Olivier. And, I like that he had the guts to ask a personal (but relevant question because if I had been him, I would have asked the same thing!) question about Olivier marrying his two wives. And Olivier’s first line of his answer was . . . priceless and so male!!
    Thanks Anna for bringing this goody (and all others!) here!

  • Eme

    “. . . nice cardigan”! I. am. dying. here.!!!!

  • Eme

    Ditto!

  • Anna

    You are welcome! 🙂

  • Anna

    Shhh. Don’t insult “the presence”.

  • Eme

    It’s really weird that the one thing we’ve been playing with all this time gets mentioned in a description of Olivier first thing in an interview with him. It was priceless!!! And a gift!!

  • Anna

    Well, it would have been way too weird if the two of us were the only ones to notice *it*.

  • Eme

    LOL!!! So true!!

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  • Guest

    Have you thought of making a third film with her?

    Oh yes. I’m not sure what yet, but I definitely will be working with her again. I just don’t get tired of looking at her. What is exciting for me is that we have very similar ways of working. We are both very intuitive on the set. We just need a framework, and there is something about our dynamic on the set that kind of creates the film, so it’s very exciting and I hope we can further it.

    https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/an-interview-with-the-director-of-personal-shopper?utm_source=vicetwitteruk

  • Anna
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    Good read, the whole thing.

  • Eme

    Yes. Please do. ASPCA if not PP.

  • Eme

    “I just don’t get tired of looking at her”. Sigh. Neither do I!!

  • Eme

    Yup.

  • Eme

    But “nice cardigan”? Oh my word, no!!!!!

  • Eme

    That’s a lot of theaters compared to the other indies. But, still good considering it’s UK, ykwim?

  • Anna

    Nice doesn’t always have a nice meaning………………………………

  • Eme

    LOL!!! Like, niiicceee!!!

  • Anna

    Yeah. Icon did it justice and UK reviews are quite good (from the biggest critics/publications anyway) but Kristen isn’t exactly well liked there.

  • Eme

    Yup!

  • Anna
  • Eme

    Haha! Is that Christian Bale?

  • Anna

    Yup! Playing a really nice guy.

  • Eme

    Wow. Talk about playing against type (and personal, js). What movie?

  • Anna

    Um. Eme, your sarcasm detector is off today, it seems ;P
    (Or I’m not detecting yours? lol)

    The movie is American Psycho.

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  • BrendaStar

    This interview with Assayas offered me some new perspective in looking at films. I really enjoyed it. I also died at the nice cardigan remark:-)

  • BrendaStar

    I agree about the spoilers, but I am really glad I read this. I forgot that they used taps on the table to “communicate” in a seance, and it is really comparable to the taps on a keypad when texting. I loved all the details of the film revealed by the reviewer. It also is more evidence of Assayas’ brilliance. We all know this, but still I don’t always make all the connections.

  • BrendaStar

    I also wanted to thank you for the articles you brought over. I especially liked this one (with spoilers) and the one from CultureWhisper.

  • Anna

    You are welcome, Brenda.

  • BrendaStar

    It was really interesting, and I loved getting the background information on Assayas’ youth, his thoughts about how “modern man” tries to connect/deal with the supernatural, and even filming an intimate scene with Kriten. I actually found the pictures used in the article to be very revealing.

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    She looks good. Really good. All dirty and in mess but good.

    Suzie was there with her on set.

  • Guest

    She does look really good. Definitely channeling Furiosa from Mad Max. And I like the jacket. She should have a wet suit/helmet for most of it though.

  • Eme

    You were being sarcastic about him playing a nice guy? I didn’t watch AM so my excuse is *I know nothing!* LOL!

  • Anna

    Yeah. And that short hair helps. It adds to the character.
    I wonder why two different jackets, though? I don’t think she’ll have time to take care of her clothes once catastrophe happens. But I like the look of it.

  • Anna

    Yes I very much am. LOL

  • Eme

    Hahaha!!!

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    Maybe they’re testing which one to use.

  • Anna

    Could be.

  • Eme

    And her character’s last name is Price from what I can see. She looks badass!

  • Anna

    Yup, Norah (?) Price.

    She does look great. I just wish I had at least a tiny little bit of confidence this one will be OK (I’m not asking for more). But I have none. Oh well.

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    What’s up with French not allowing them to use their train station? SMH

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    On thing though.
    Whatever that thing they are using on her face is, I hope it won’t damage her skin (you know, cause pimples, irritation and such). Remember how bad her skin got after that Ice Bucket Challenge on Equals’ set (just look at NYFF and AFI pics from that year)?

  • Eme

    I have learned to take your opinions about scriptwriter, producers, directors seriously (AU), but I ‘m riding the Hope Train hard as usual.

  • Anna

    We make a good pair: I’m holding tight to what history thought me (in this case, nothing positive) and you are not letting go of that Hope Train of yours. Perfect balance. Yin and yang 😉

  • Eme

    They were being petty because Olivier did not film totally in France because of the expense in doing so. Children.

  • Anna

    Yeah. During CoSM promo he said he has hard time getting any money from French (aside from what Charles’ company can invest in his films) so he has to cooperate with producers from other countries.

  • Eme

    Yup. Like I said – children. Smh.

  • Anna

    Final BO numbers for this weekend ($6K less than estimated) – $152,478 (PTA: $4,357), domestic total: $263,883.

    https://twitter.com/boxofficemojo/status/843928994135203840

  • Eme

    Agree. It’s a good balance. 😉

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    That person (Tula Lotay, director of Leeds’ Annual comic Art Festival and creative director working for a chain of comic book store in the UK)) made few more art works inspired by Kristen (Elle UK 2010 shoot, I think).

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6z_RFyWsAMbAot.jpg

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    Only, I always root for you to win.

  • Anna

    New Olivier’s interview for Channel 4 (big UK TV channel).

    https://twitter.com/_Rejane_Santos/status/843931704599498752

  • Guest

    Love it.

  • Eme

    She gets Kristen’s face very well, expression and all. Nice.

  • Guest

    Some people have done some CSI and it looks like one of the actors papped in those pics is John Gallagher Jr., who was in Short Term 12, among other things. Good actor.

  • Eme

    That scene was amazing in its depiction of a lost soul trying to find or capture an identity. The clothes weren’t bad either! Or the body!

  • Anna

    Yeah, I saw that.
    Lets wait till Underwater shows up on his IMDb page (or his name on Underwater’s), though. There’s always that chance (a small one) that he was there because of a different project.

  • Anna

    I liked how Olivier described it in that interview earlier: he gave her complete freedom to do whatever she wants and show only as much skin as she was comfortable with (many directors aren’t as considerate, on the contrary).

  • Guest

    If he was just papped walking around NOLA, I might agree, but he was on their set. He looks like one of the actors, it’s just a matter of whether the ID is correct. There was also another possible actor papped walking next to Kristen.

  • Anna

    As far as I know, they are filming at a facility that not only one production uses. That’s why I said lets wait to be 100% sure.

  • Eme

    Yes. Much respect for him in doing that. And it wasn’t a *sexy* scene at all. Like it was said earlier, he (and Kristen) made it non-sexual. Which makes sense given the storyline.

  • Eme

    Me too!!!

  • Anna
  • Eme

    I want to take the time to thank this board for being here because the posts, the convos, the pictures, articles, etc. all help me find some stable ground and levity in the midst of the unbelievable history that is being made in the US currently. I feel like I’m reliving my early college years. Only this time it’s worse.
    So, Kristen, keep on doing, so we can keep on doing here. Thanks everyone.

  • Anna

    OK, then. I’ll keep posting this whenever you feel down 🙂

    https://68.media.tumblr.com/39d6c7ac3ae676037006d59fb09b3828/tumblr_nsyf7hI9To1rxw7hlo2_500.gif

  • Eme

    Such joy in her face!! Fallon, right?

  • Eme

    Thank you, my friend!

  • Anna

    Yup!

  • Eme

    Oh, just saw that we can buy this. Random time? WTH does that mean?

  • Anna